Stansbury's inability to adjust in the first half of games nearly cost us this one. We didnt change to a 2 3 zone until 2 minutes left in the half, and we kept a 4 guard lineup out there while they dominated us on the boards and got alot of putbacks. Still dont know why Osby doesnt play more. And the lineup that consisted of Brian Johnson, Riley Benock, Twanny Beckham, Elgin Bailey, and Romero Osby was terrible. Not one of those guys can create their own shot. Who is gonna get a basket in that lineup? Stans needs to adjust better in the first half because when we play teams on the road or good team like LSU, we cant do that kind of crap and get away with it like we did today.
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Stansbury's inability to adjust in the first half of games nearly cost us this one. We didnt change to a 2 3 zone until 2 minutes left in the half, and we kept a 4 guard lineup out there while they dominated us on the boards and got alot of putbacks. Still dont know why Osby doesnt play more. And the lineup that consisted of Brian Johnson, Riley Benock, Twanny Beckham, Elgin Bailey, and Romero Osby was terrible. Not one of those guys can create their own shot. Who is gonna get a basket in that lineup? Stans needs to adjust better in the first half because when we play teams on the road or good team like LSU, we cant do that kind of crap and get away with it like we did today.
why would you play a 2-3 zone when the opposing team is on fire behind the arc? The only reason I could see playing a 2-3 would be just to have a change of pace. No way you can stay in it if they are draining 3's.
last time I checked they don't hand out wins and loses for who is ahead at halftime.
You don't know **** about basketball if you don't think this was a great win. We out rebound them and hit a SCHOOL RECORD 16 3's and you still find a way to *****.
I bet you live a miserable life and I am happy you do.</p>
You don't know **** about basketball if you don't think this was a great win. We out rebound them and hit a SCHOOL RECORD 16 3's and you still find a way to *****.
I bet you live a miserable life and I am happy you do.</p>
Why cant we analyzed what happened in the game? All that I said is common knowledge that every else saw. Thats my analysis. Coach did very bad in the 1st half, and very well in the 2nd half. Do you want everyone to just appreciate the victory and not talk about some obvious problems we had? If we do in the 1st half today against LSU wednesday we WILL lose. They are much better then Arkansas, and I think people have the right to discuss that.
Youre an idiot. I didnt say this wasnt a great win. I just said that Stansbury did a bad job in the 1st half, and if we do this against LSU we wont win. Thats all I said. So next time you post, read what I write, then say something intelligent. If not, then dont post again.
They adjusted plenty at halftime....
Also not taking up for the substitution procedure, but they were out of gas late in the second half.
Also not taking up for the substitution procedure, but they were out of gas late in the second half.
Ark was shooting lights out from the outside in the first half...how the hell would a 2-3 zone stop that?
Because we ran a man for the first 18 minutes of the first half when they were shooting lights out, and the very first possession we ran a 2 3 zone we caused a turnover. We had hands in faces when we ran the 2 3 because we rotated over well, and they stopped shooting 3's effectively until the last few minutes when Welsh got hot.
Dumb and ignorant. All i have to say. I love it when people like you resort to name calling because you think youre right and im wrong. Just because we won doesnt mean there wasnt something wrong going on during the course of the game. Why dont you go post on everyone elses topic who is saying something negative about the game. Maybe Mr Good Cop Bonedaddy can get rid of all the people who say bad things about the game.
Seems like sometimes we get a little over aggressive on defense, guys lose their man, and someone ends up wide *** open & drains a 3. We just look a little out of control on defense sometimes. Maybe he went to zone to try and slow things down before half and regain a little composure.
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We have a few of the dumbest fans in America. Stans is widely considered one of the best floor coaches in the SEC and not to mention one of the best recruiters. His records speak for themselves. He does more with less than ANYBODY else in our conference and we STILL have fans that try to ruin his credibility. So and so misses a shot...."OMG Stans can't coach"....it is beyond the point of being laughable.
this is a forum to analyze and discuss one of our sporting events. But it never fails, instead of being happy with the adjustments we make at the half to make a nice comeback.......some want to yuck it up on nothing but the negative points of the game. I don't know how many times I have watched teams look like **** in one half, only to make adjustments to totally turn around a game. To me, that is a whole lot more enjoyable topic than "Stansbury's inability to adjust in the first half of games nearly cost us this one." Well, he adjusted. And we won. Be happy!mstatefan88 said:
Im not blaming him for people missing shots. I was upset with how our team was prepared to come out and play in the first half. Arkansas runs a 2 3 zone against us every time we play them and the team was not prepared to go up against that. We couldnt break their zone, we couldnt find open shooters, and we took bad shots. Thats all I said. I didnt think the team came out prepared to break the 2 3 zone. I think Stansbury is an excellent recruiter, and I think he handles his players and their emotions better than any coach in the SEC. I just think sometimes we arent prepared to execute against certain teams sometimes. Ive never said he was a bad coach. I think his body of work here has been very good.
We scored 36 points in the first half...If I'm not mistaken, we've averaged about 35 first half points this season. How was the offense not prepared?
Because we had guys like Phil and Dee taking 3's very early in the shot clock because no one was getting open. I know we have a much better 3 point shooting team than in years past, but some of the 3's that were being taken we not the kind of shots we need to take. I know we can win by hitting our 3's, I just wish we would maybe just try to run more than one play that is designed for Jarvis. We shoot alot of contested 3's. And in SEC play we have made most of them. But when we get in games like we did at LSU where that shot isnt going in, we are lost. In the first half, thats what was happening. We looked lost. Youre right, we scored 36 points. But our offense gave up alot of fast break layups by jacking up 3's and giving Arky the fast break advantage on the rebound. We gave up 50 in the first half, and some of that was aided by poor offensive shot taking.
...and simply miss the fact that we won the damn game. That's what is...a game..and we won the damn thing...that's what counts. No shrinks or brainpickers or doomsday forecasters needed when we're doing that. Stans should be given an extension and more money, and besides, I have a crush on Meo.
I dont disagree with any of that. I think he does deserve an extension and more money because I think hes a pretty good coach. All I said was we didnt looked prepared in the first half. I think he makes some questionable calls like mass substituting, which it seems he has stopped doing, or like taking guy with the hot hand out of the game like he did with Dee today. Im not a doomsday guy, just giving my opinion. That IS what this board was created for right?
Dominated? 17-15 was the rebounding difference the 1st half. 2nd clue is the rest of that drivel that you posted. I just don't understand what the 17 you guys wanted Stans to do when Ark. hit 8-12 from 3pters in the 1st half. We 17ing play a team hot as hell coming out and down 15 at the half and come out the 2nd half and dominated Ark. after they cooled down to win by 9 and people still want to *****. You ***** about subs and ***** about poor game plan, but the fact is it didn't matter in the 1st half, because Ark. lit it up. I guess you wanted Stans to double team the guy shooting 27% from 3's or maybe the 6'10" guy that has hit 3 3pters all year. The fact is we had the same game plan we had for Kentucky and when we beat Arky at Arky. Let the ****** 3pt shooters shoot and make them hit them. Today they did and we adjusted. At Arky and at Kentucky, they didn't and it was a great game plan. </p>
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Again, the stupidity of this board is outstanding during basketball season. It's almost like we have a full moon the whole basketball season, where, instead of turning into werewolves, our fans turn into retarded dumbasses. Please for the love of all that is holy, save your bitching for when it is actually warranted.</p>
as a fan, I will always comment on things that could be improved upon even if we won by 50. It's just my nature to look for ways to improve when watching/playing a sport.
I'm not taking up for the dumbasses spewing their **** on this board, but in fairness, Arkansas hit 8-12 on 3's in the first half because our defense was god-awful. Osby showed why he should not be starting and should not be playing more minutes today because he was totally clueless on defense when he came in the game. Not to single him out because the whole team was pretty bad in the first half, but I get tired of people clamoring for him to start. The 4 guard lineup works very well for us, and Osby is just not ready to contribute the quality minutes that he would be expected to if he were starting. I think Stans has done a good job of getting him in for experience and to get the positives of what he can contribute, but at the same time balancing it with fewer minutes to cover the deficiencies he brings with his age and the difficulty he's had making the jump from high school ball.
We struggled in the first half...and still matched our season average for first half points. Uh, ok. Plus, if Ark had scored the majority of their 51 points via fast break opportunities, I would somewhat agree that poor shot selection led to that. But they were nailing 3s the first half...they were shooting out of their mind.
it didn't have much to do with Arky going 8-12 from 3's. Like I said, the game plan was to let Fortson shoot open 3's. It was the same game plan at Arky. Fortson went 0-5 in that game. Today he went 2-2 and Washington added another in the 1st half and like I said earlier, Washington has hit only 3 3's all year. Ark. hit a couple more open transition 3's and a couple with a hand in their face. So like I said, poor defense wasn't the cause of Ark. going 8-12 in the 1st half. Some of it was game plan and some was just Arkansas running and getting good open looks. We do it every game. When I think about our poor defense, I think more of the reason that Fortson kept driving to the goal and hitting layup after layup.
Please describe the logic above. Describing Stans, you say:TheNewMSU said:
1. "one of the best recruiters"
2. "does more with less"
1 and 2 do not belong in the same argument. If he was a good recruiter he wouldn't have "less." I like Stans - although I question and criticize some things, just like anyone. But I do not understand this logic. Please explain.
I am all for agreeing with you that the over criticizing of Stans is old and dumb...but the rest of your post is pretty much just as dumb.TheNewMSU said:
1- when the hell did Stans become one of the best floor coaches in the SEC? seriously, when? and who the hell(besides you) nominated and voted him into said position? i didnt get that memo, and if i did, i would have laughed my *** off at such an absurd suggestion.
2- if Stans is one of the best recruiters, then why is he also having to do more with less when compared to everyone else in the conference? think about that for a minute. let it sink in and stir around. tastes pretty stupid, huh? how the **** can he have less than everyone else in the conference, and yet also be one of the best recruiters??? thats like 19.83% style math...it just doesnt add up.