Every 4 years is about good enough for soccer

[onewoof]

1) All the MLS, College Soccer clubs, High School and insanely over the top parents and kids soccer teams can fade intoirrelevancyfor 4 years<div>2) The average soccer player is about 140 pounds, about the size of the average female. This is why no one watches either soccer or related female like sports.</div><div>3) We don't have to watch these little girl sized men fall down and squeal every 4 minutes</div><div>4) America can now watch sports with some 240+ pound seriousathletesplay football, basketball and baseball. Hell even a heavy weight fight now and then.</div><div>5) When there is a weak side sack in the back, a receiver getting jacked up, a posterizing two handed dunk, or a collision at the plate, a knock out punch, at least we'll know some real men just went at it mano e mano.</div><div>6) Don't reply and tell me there are some real athletes in soccer too. Ballet has some athletes and it makes about the same gate as soccer.</div><div>7) So soccer, fade in to nothingness again. I shall watch thee again in 4 years with the TV muted and drink to get through the fact that other countries little men are always and forever going to be 80% better than our little men and these great little men flailing about on the ground and the refs buying it are what ultimately determine who is the champions of the pansy's in the worlds athletic cup.</div><div>
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[onewoof]

1) All the MLS, College Soccer clubs, High School and insanely over the top parents and kids soccer teams can fade intoirrelevancyfor 4 years<div>2) The average soccer player is about 140 pounds, about the size of the average female. This is why no one watches either soccer or related female like sports.</div><div>3) We don't have to watch these little girl sized men fall down and squeal every 4 minutes</div><div>4) America can now watch sports with some 240+ pound seriousathletesplay football, basketball and baseball. Hell even a heavy weight fight now and then.</div><div>5) When there is a weak side sack in the back, a receiver getting jacked up, a posterizing two handed dunk, or a collision at the plate, a knock out punch, at least we'll know some real men just went at it mano e mano.</div><div>6) Don't reply and tell me there are some real athletes in soccer too. Ballet has some athletes and it makes about the same gate as soccer.</div><div>7) So soccer, fade in to nothingness again. I shall watch thee again in 4 years with the TV muted and drink to get through the fact that other countries little men are always and forever going to be 80% better than our little men and these great little men flailing about on the ground and the refs buying it are what ultimately determine who is the champions of the pansy's in the worlds athletic cup.</div><div>
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[MSUCostanza]

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[onewoof]

Nascar features soccer sized 5'4 lightweight men that sit on their *** for a living. Hell atleast soccer players run around like the Kenyans.<div>
</div><div>The only mens sports with smaller dudes than soccer players are horse jockies and male gymnasts. And midget wresting which is probably outlawed in most states. Like soccer should be as well.</div>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

It's similar to how most of the people who yell the loudest about gays turn out to be gay. He's probably got a pair of shinguards and cleats in his closet.

 

[dawgstudent]

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[HumpDawg]

I know it will never happen but if they would change a couple rules it would be more interesting to watch. My big beef is they need to get rid of offsides. Have some fast guys running down the side of the fieldthat they can kick the ball to kindof like a go route. It would create more one on one opportunities instead of everyone bunched up in front of the goal. That would be more exciting to me but the extent of my soccer knowledge is watching the couple of USA games this world cup and playing as a child until I was old enough to play football. </p>

 

[JohnDawg]

getting rid of offsides would be horrible. it would be 10 guys just standing around the other teams goal the entire game. horrible.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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[HumpDawg]

Beacuse the wide receiver has the ability to get behind the coverage and still have the ball delivered to him. That isn't allowed in soccer.

 

[dawgstudent]

just let the WR stand at the goalline at the start of the play.

 

[thatsbaseball]

1. Everyone is really pumped at the beginning or the match /race

2 If you took an hour nap in the middle ofeither contest you wouldn`t miss a damn thing

3 The end of the contestmay or may not be very exciting but it`s always the best part

4 The real fans of both sports are rowdy bastards that love to drink beer

Why can`t we all get along ? Soccer fans don`t have tolike Nascar and Nascar fans probably wouldn`t like soccer (other than the beer and brawls) if they even knew it existed.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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[wpnetdawg]

To make it parallel, you would have to look at the WR's position relative to the last secondary defender at the moment of the quarterback's release.

 

[rugbdawg]

here in Colorado. Also, on the west coast, it's spreading like wildfire.

 

[rugbdawg]

Whenever we are out in public and he sees a gay couple he starts bitching. He can't carry on a conversation without a gay man. Guy is from Maryland, the rural area...and is the one of the biggest redneck I've ever met.

Last week, he called me and told me he is moving to the gay area in Denver and that he just bought a cockapoo. Gay community of Denver= Gay community of San Fransisco. It's pretty damn gay...not that there is anything wrong with that (Seinfield). He really wants me to come meet his dog.

I asked him why are you moving to the gay area, I thought you hate them? He said, it's really a lot cheaper than other areas.

I asked him why a cockapoo? He said that it takes up less space and that he wants to fit in with the neighborhood. According to him, "It's Denver. They have a lot of restrictions on dogs I would like...like Dobermans, pits, etc."

My wife has been saying he is gay for the past year...she may be right. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

All the sixpack experts have assured me that it will never catch on. And we know how all trends start here in Mississippi so we'd be the first to know.<div>
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[HammerOfTheDogs]

Why don't we stop play every time a running back or receiver doesn't have more than two defenders in front of him?

Edited- Maybe that was what Croom was thinking about when installing his Offense.

 

[Agentdog]

They guy has never played the game. Anybody that tries to say soccer players are little girls, has no clue. It can be a very physical game.

 

[tldawg85]

FIFA is a joke of an organization and needs to get with the times, they only give the soccer haters more ammunition. I guess they don't really care..

FIFA: Replay of Tevez goal 'a mistake'


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JOHANNESBURG -- FIFA will censor World Cup match action being shown
on giant screens inside the stadium after replays of Argentina's
disputed first goal against Mexico fueled arguments on the pitch.</p>

Angry
Mexico players protested to referee Roberto Rosetti after the screens
in Johannesburg's Soccer City showed Argentina forward Carlos Tevez was offside before he scored the opening goal in a 3-1 victory on Sunday.</p>

FIFA spokesman Nicolas Maingot said Monday that replaying the incident was "a clear mistake."</p>

Yeah!...because the clear mistake is the stadium crew showing a replay exposing your POS refs for what they are.

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[RebelBruiser]

As wpnetdawg said, the parallel for football would be not letting the WRs get behind the last defender until the ball was released by the QB. That would be an awful rule for football.

A better comparison sport-wise is basketball. You can snowbird all you want and just hang out under the basket, but if you do that, you're playing 4 on 5 defensively. No one does that due to the risk defensively. However, if you are quick enough to steal a pass and your teammates are quicker to react than the defense, you can get behind the defenders for a fast break.

That's why everyone thinks soccer offsides is stupid. There is nothing similar to it in American sports, where you are allowed to be rewarded offensively if you can outsmart/outquick the defense in getting behind them for a pass. I hate the offsides rule because I don't think it makes sense, but it's a soccer rule, and it's always been that way.

That said, soccer shouldn't change the rule, because internationally it is not hurting one bit. Let the rest of the world enjoy its sport where you can't use your hands, and you have rules that restrict scoring opportunities. Soccer doesn't need overwhelming American support to do well as a sport.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Why should the opposing team be able to determine the line which an offensive player can't cross. If the defenders are hanging out at midfield, you can't cross midfield until the ball is cleared behind the last line. It's a stupid rule period. The soccer fans can try to defend it all they want, but the only defense for it is that it's just the way it is.

Offsides is the No. 1 reason why soccer is so low scoring and scoring opportunities are so few and far between and also why the few scoring opportunities that do come are still so difficult to convert. You could even shrink the goal if you wanted to and still have higher scoring games if you just got rid of offsides as a rule.

 

[patdog]

Without the offside rule, soccer would be a game with about 8 defenders and a goalie packed into the box and 2 forwards trying to score against them with no midfield help. When the defense got the ball, they'd just kick a 60-yard pass to their 2 forwards who would then try to score against 8 defenders plus a goalie.</p>

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

you would be able to hold the ball at midfield for twenty minutes without a defender challenging you. The defenders would never leave opponents unguarded near the net, so there would be no one to come up and challenge the ball. I think offsides should go away when the ball is in the box, but other than that you just can't get rid of it. The field is far too big.

 

[JohnDawg]

if a defense were to hang out at midfield the whole game, you'd see a lot more scoring from breakaways. Not sure if you knew this or not, but you can't be offsides on your side of the field. Teams would stack about 4 forwards up front and play through balls all day long and create numerous oneon one opportunitieswith the keeper.

 

[MrHooch]

It's similar to how most of the people who yell the loudest about gays turn out to be gay. He's probably got a pair of shinguards and cleats in his closet.

people who ***** about cowbells. You don't like cowbells, we get it.

Not speaking specifically to you, btw... just saying.

 

[RebelBruiser]

Without the offside rule, soccer would be a game with about 8 defenders and a goalie packed into the box and 2 forwards trying to score against them with no midfield help. When the defense got the ball, they'd just kick a 60-yard pass to their 2 forwards who would then try to score against 8 defenders plus a goalie.</p>

I disagree with that. I'm no soccer expert obviously, but why wouldn't it play out just like basketball. If you're on the attack offensively, it's the job of your defenders to make sure that no one gets behind them in the case of a turnover, just like basketball. Why wouldn't you see all 10 players on the attacking end of the field with defenders lagging back, like guards playing the perimeter?

Sure the goalie could get the ball and then kick it over the defense's head, but if the defense's last line of defense hasn't let anyone break away past them, they'll be the first to reach the ball, and it would be akin to a turnover. Explain to me why this is wrong and why soccer couldn't be played just like basketball with a larger goal, goalies, and a bigger field.

My other big gripe with soccer is all the flopping. That said, the way fouls are so important to the game, I can see why the players do it. I don't have an answer for that, but it bugs me.

As I said though, soccer doesn't need to change any of its rules because it's not hurting for popularity internationally and it doesn't need Americans to like it. I'm just saying what would need to be done to soccer to make it more entertaining for Americans. If you got rid of offsides and had soccer played more in the form of basketball, it would be a lot more entertaining to Americans.

 

[AdamDawgDude]

I disagree with that. I'm no soccer expert obviously, but why wouldn't it play out just like basketball. If you're on the attack offensively, it's the job of your defenders to make sure that no one gets behind them in the case of a turnover, just like basketball. Why wouldn't you see all 10 players on the attacking end of the field with defenders lagging back, like guards playing the perimeter?

Sure the goalie could get the ball and then kick it over the defense's head, but if the defense's last line of defense hasn't let anyone break away past them, they'll be the first to reach the ball, and it would be akin to a turnover. Explain to me why this is wrong and why soccer couldn't be played just like basketball with a larger goal, goalies, and a bigger field.

My other big gripe with soccer is all the flopping. That said, the way fouls are so important to the game, I can see why the players do it. I don't have an answer for that, but it bugs me.

As I said though, soccer doesn't need to change any of its rules because it's not hurting for popularity internationally and it doesn't need Americans to like it. I'm just saying what would need to be done to soccer to make it more entertaining for Americans. If you got rid of offsides and had soccer played more in the form of basketball, it would be a lot more entertaining to Americans.

I enjoy soccer because it's not like basketball (especially the NBA). I don't want to see half-court shots that go in or some guy getting hacked and having a shot hit off of the top of the back-board and still drop. It's too easy to score in basketball. Soccer makes it a challenge just to control the ball and move it up the field. The reason Americans have sucked on the international stage is not completely due to putting poor athletes on the pitch. Some of it is from just launching the ball from one side of the field to the other and giving away possession. We don't have the patience to work the ball up and then pass it back to an advancing back line. In soccer, the defenders have a huge part in many goals because they enable a team to keep ground and maintain possession. Our back-line blows and always has.

I agree with the poor officiating though. FIFA started an initiative to card players that flop, but they have really not followed through with enforcing it.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

If Americans had only known about football, baseball, or basketball for 20 years, they wouldn't be as entertaining either. Soccer is growing just fine here and will continue to grow as more and more generations grow up playing AND watching the game.

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[RebelBruiser]

If Americans had only known about football, baseball, or basketball for 20 years, they wouldn't be as entertaining either. Soccer is growing just fine here and will continue to grow as more and more generations grow up playing AND watching the game.

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I agree with the fact that soccer doesn't need Americans. I'm just saying what it would take to make it more entertaining to the average American fan, which won't happen.

Soccer may grow some in the US, but I don't see it ever passing anything other than maybe hockey in terms of popularity. I'd say it's 5th in the US right now in terms of fan interest, and I think it could grow to 4th.

I don't think it can pass any of the other 3.

 

[o_1984Dawg]

I was not saying soccer doesn't need Americans, although I guess that's proven true. What I meant was, soccer, the way it is, will be entertaining for American fans. It only takes time. It's behind now because it has no history, not because it has no entertainment value. As generations grow up with MLS and the European leagues on TV that will change. You are suggesting these rule changes that will only weaken the excitement and entertainment value.<div><div>
</div></div><div>And for the record I'm fairly certain soccer will pass hockey in the near future and I think it will pass baseball, a dying sport, in my lifetime.</div>