I wasn't at the game, but obviously the stadium was absolutely packed for the game. There is a good chance that with a win this week, there will be two more over-capacity games with Bama and Ole Miss. Does this speed up the expansion talks? Also, how many seats do you think we could have filled on Saturday?
Expansion Possibilities Question..
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I wasn't at the game, but obviously the stadium was absolutely packed for the game. There is a good chance that with a win this week, there will be two more over-capacity games with Bama and Ole Miss. Does this speed up the expansion talks? Also, how many seats do you think we could have filled on Saturday?
I wasn't at the game, but obviously the stadium was absolutely packed for the game. There is a good chance that with a win this week, there will be two more over-capacity games with Bama and Ole Miss. Does this speed up the expansion talks? Also, how many seats do you think we could have filled on Saturday?
I wasn't at the game, but obviously the stadium was absolutely packed for the game. There is a good chance that with a win this week, there will be two more over-capacity games with Bama and Ole Miss. Does this speed up the expansion talks? Also, how many seats do you think we could have filled on Saturday?
I've heard that the fire marshall had to make us turn away almost 2,000 people. Don't know if thats true, but if so, we would have come close to 60,000. I think the North student section endzone is the next step, and I've heard that would add close to 12,000. I think we have to talk about at least temporarily expanding the bleachers to fit more people until we can bowl in the endzone, which I think happens within the next 5 years. With bigger and bigger graduating classes, and the fan base finally having something to cheer about, I think we can consistently get close to 60,000 for almost every home game. </p>
We will set the new season attendance record this year with what will probably be a loosing record. We were also blessed/cursed with a very attractive home schedule. With winning seasons comming shortly, we need to consider expansion as early as the end of next season.
Given what we have right now, Auburn's stadium is the template to follow. Put the endzone seats as close a possible to the field. The atmosphere will be in tents. A full horseshoe will kill the atmosphere.
In fact, if what I'm seeing this correctly, it's been done before. I saw this while going through the old main pictures on flikr. Some pretty cool stuff on that if you've never seen it.
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Take away the student section end-zone seats (2-3K) and that will put out seating capacity to around 68K. It's a fact that more students wanted to buy tickets that could not because they were already sold out. I think it's reasonable to offer another 2,000 student tickets. More people will buy season tickets and single game tickets will be easier to get. I think 68K is a reasonable number to shoot for. Plus, interest in our team is growing every year.
Also, maybe add boxes in the North end-zone to help pay for the expansion. It would look good to keep these seats as close to the field as possible and put the students in that end zone.
Also, maybe add boxes in the North end-zone to help pay for the expansion. It would look good to keep these seats as close to the field as possible and put the students in that end zone.
That was something my high school did when we could not fit the crowd into our old football stadium. It looks like **** and would be very embarrassing to add seats. I would rather not get that extra 1,000 people in there and not be publicly embarrassed by being the only SEC team in recent memory to put temp bleachers in the stadium for a nationally televised game.
Just my take.
Just my take.
I don't think putting skyboxes over the new endzone expansion is even a question. And by that I mean, hell yes we would have new skyboxes. Byrne knows that a.) it will look even better and b.) it will pay for the expansion by itself over time. We have 50 skyboxes right now and last year the waiting list was another 53 (courtesy of the athletic department). So, by my math (last years football support + this years football support = greater than 53) we should have no problem selling another 50 skyboxes. It's hard math to follow, I know, but I think most of you can see where I'm coming from. In short, let's build SOON.
for skyboxes is not enough to justify building more. I have heard the waiting list for club level is out of this world so I think that is what we will do. I think someone has mentioned that we will make true club level seats in the maroon chairbacks on the west side. If that is the case, one would have to think CollegeView/Moore or whatever it's called that runs behind the west side will be completely gone.
My guess is the first thing will be to redo the west side.
My guess is the first thing will be to redo the west side.
This wouldn't be an addition per say b/c it would be coming out of the dirt, without having any real idea about what will be done in the future its hard to guess, but still any new structure of decent size would take more than one off season.</p>
as of one year ago, renovating the west side into more club level seats (and renovating the press box, possibly adding some suites) is #1 on the agenda and on the schedule for the next few years. the AD already had architects working on ideas. i'm not sure, but i would hope that they would also take the opportunity to upgrade the ground level facilities.
any renovation in the end zone would be at least several years away, as you'd need time to raise money, plan, etc. i think club level seats above students and other seating would be the answer to the end zone. i hate to say it, but vaught hemingway may be a good pattern for us. though i don't remember exactly how their stadium looked before/after, i think they have club level at the top, and the seats come closer to the field than they did before.
any renovation in the end zone would be at least several years away, as you'd need time to raise money, plan, etc. i think club level seats above students and other seating would be the answer to the end zone. i hate to say it, but vaught hemingway may be a good pattern for us. though i don't remember exactly how their stadium looked before/after, i think they have club level at the top, and the seats come closer to the field than they did before.
and bring the stands down to it. We could center the field at the same time we added more seating.
I'm pretty sure that the field is intentionally off center to give our sideline a lot more room than the visitors. Stick them right up against the fans and give our team some space.MSU SilentBob said:
Nothing is going to happen in the South endzone for another decade and a half at least I would bet. Who in the world would want to sit to where they can't see the board? No one would buy those tickets.
I guess you could shaft the students, but you shaft the students too much while they're students and they're not exactly likely to be good alumni.</p>
I guess you could shaft the students, but you shaft the students too much while they're students and they're not exactly likely to be good alumni.</p>
I agree the westside needs to be renovated. I understand the revenue that could be generated by more luxury boxes on the west side. However, we have got to enclose the north endzone soon. That is the first thing I hear from other fans about our stadium. "Looks like a high school with no endzone seats." Which is ridiculous. However, it really would make the stadium look bigger and those seats would be filled and in demand from students.
If I were AD for a day, I would build a concrete structure to match the lower east and west side. Then move the student section down (north a section or two). Then sell section Q and R for a premium. You could come back later and add luxury boxes on the north endzone when the west side project is being constructed.
If I were AD for a day, I would build a concrete structure to match the lower east and west side. Then move the student section down (north a section or two). Then sell section Q and R for a premium. You could come back later and add luxury boxes on the north endzone when the west side project is being constructed.
You have an entire section of prime seats being sold at a discount to a lot of people who went to school at A&M and leave at halftime...
I know this doesn't add to the more seats discussion but it certainly adds to the revenue. Those seats would be taken up in a heartbeat for their premium value.
Also, I would love to see us renovate the west side and make it mirror the east but filling in the endzone has to be done at the same time or certainly in the very near future.
I know this doesn't add to the more seats discussion but it certainly adds to the revenue. Those seats would be taken up in a heartbeat for their premium value.
Also, I would love to see us renovate the west side and make it mirror the east but filling in the endzone has to be done at the same time or certainly in the very near future.
I am retired faculty/staff and have over 20 years of consecutive giving to the Bulldog Club and purchasing season tickets for the 3 major sports. I am a member of the Bulldog Club, the Tip-Off Club, and still maintain my baseball seats. It's getting a little tiresome to hear that you don't think I deserve good seating. I think that I do.
If you are giving and paying the appropriate money, of course, you deserve to keep your spot. However, please help me to understand why a faculty person who gives less than me deserves a 50 yard line seat? Or, for better example, why someone who did not even go to school at MSU and doesn't contribute gets to have a 40-50 yard line seat?
You have to realize there is a problem with that, right?
You have to realize there is a problem with that, right?
I am curious to know what they go for now... I knew it was a discounted rate but now I really would like to know how much we are giving up...
Do you have to even make a donation to the bulldog club to keep your seat? They do not sell them in the "$X for this seat" way, right?
I am ready to do the math... That section probably holds what 5k? 7k?
Do you have to even make a donation to the bulldog club to keep your seat? They do not sell them in the "$X for this seat" way, right?
I am ready to do the math... That section probably holds what 5k? 7k?
in about 85 or 86. I came down for the game and bought tickets on gameday, and our seats were in bleachers. And I really think they were in the south endzone.
P.s. I'm not looking this up, but I want to say that AU was somehow homecoming that year. Anyone else remember it that way? They hung about 45 on the Dogs that night.
P.s. I'm not looking this up, but I want to say that AU was somehow homecoming that year. Anyone else remember it that way? They hung about 45 on the Dogs that night.
Let's just say that what we pay for football tickets is significantly more (more than double) than the discount packages that are usually offered in the upper decks. We pay the say price as everyone else for parking. We pay more for basketball seats than for football, but not significantly more.</p>
games in 1986. Those bleachers are now the right field bleachers at Dudy Noble. The original plans for the Dudy Noble rebuild in 1986 were to only have bleachers down the left field line. That's why the bleachers on the left field and the right field aren't the same.
Sorry. Didn't see your "fairness" post before I replied. Sure, I think that the things you mention are problems for those that feel they aren't treated right by the system. But, as others have said here before, it's a money thing. I can't speak for how/why the system is set up as it is and I just can't speak for other faculty/staff. Better discussed over a beer.
the seats that are committed to the staff are sold on the west side for a donation of $350/seat. Just say that there are 7000 staff seats, thats a lot of money that is being lost. I am all for giving the staff a discounted seat but it should not be in a premium location unless they are willing to pay for it. That is why I think bowling in the endzone would be a great start for us. We put the students in the endzone and are then able to sell more seats that could go for $50-100 seat donation versus just a student ticket.
7000 staff seats at $200 more per seat is a nice $1.4M addition.
I JUST DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING AWAY PRIME SEATS AT A DISCOUNT. Nothing against staff, but working at MSU does not mean you should have a prime seat. If you want a discounted rate, you should be sitting outside of the 20s or in the upper deck.
7000 staff seats at $200 more per seat is a nice $1.4M addition.
I JUST DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD BE GIVING AWAY PRIME SEATS AT A DISCOUNT. Nothing against staff, but working at MSU does not mean you should have a prime seat. If you want a discounted rate, you should be sitting outside of the 20s or in the upper deck.
...but their football stadium as a whole looks like ****. It's a case study in how not to expand your stadium.
But that doesn't look like an awful lot of seats. A project of that size would be almost strictly for club level and luxury box $$$, plus it would help contain acoustics a bit. How many seats do they have there? That doesn't look much larger than what we have with our current endzone setup. Use that as the model but double or triple the regular seating then you're on to something...