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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 129443523" data-attributes="member: 1428007"><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>You've got to be kidding. Posters have been on this board since day one of the DH hiring criticizing him and stating emphatically that BS should not have been replaced. Now you want to pretend that hasn't happened--yet you do it again in your rambling below? Don't insult everyone's intelligence. Posters including you are pining for a coach that couldn't win the defunct Big East and bashing one that hasn't been able to win an elite conference.</strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><strong>Colorado was horrid in 2008 with a losing record. ECU had FIVE losses and you think that means they were good? They had a sole victory over a decent but not great VT team and wins over mediocre CUSA teams--oh and a then top ten WVU. This is not something to toot your horn over.</strong></strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>You must be joking again. In 2013 WVU played in the #3 ranked BIG 12. They finished in the sagarins at 74. Iowa State was rated higher at #72. WVU had a depleted team lacking depth and experience at virtually every position that year. Conversely, BS in 2008 had a top 5 team coming off a major BCS bowl victory with a Heisman quality QB and many returners from some great teams. The Big East was only the #5 rated conference and ECU's CUSA was #8. Colorado was BAD and fired their HC that season or the next. WVU even with bad losses was #26 in the sagarins and ECU was #54 and CU #72. Those were not good losses and BS couldn't even win the weaker Big East yet, posters like yourself tout him over Dana Holgorsens accomplishments? For what?</strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Again, the level of teams being played by BS was far below what DH played as a whole. Not close. BS ALSO lost to Syracuse btw--and to a host of other teams in the Big East and below.</strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>You are missing the point. Kansas State has a losing record because they play in the BIG 12--a MUCH tougher conference. Wins aren't the same no matter what league you play in--the strength of opponent matters, and DH is playing top to bottom MUCH tougher opponents year in and out--but he's had to do it with an under recruited group lacking depth, and for two or three years made of players recruited to play in a different conference. No one wants 7-5 results, but you and others pine for a coach that couldn't even win the Big East and act as though he was something great because he won 9 games in the season--ignoring who he was playing and who he lost to.</strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>No one is "losing a battle". Message board trolls aren't deciding the fate of WVU's HC staff try as they might. What's happening is WVU's athletic programs and reputation are being damaged in the public (and recruits) eyes by uninformed posters who bash those trying to make difficult improvements to the WVU program and falsely champion those that helped bring it down in the first place.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 129443523, member: 1428007"] [B] [B]You've got to be kidding. Posters have been on this board since day one of the DH hiring criticizing him and stating emphatically that BS should not have been replaced. Now you want to pretend that hasn't happened--yet you do it again in your rambling below? Don't insult everyone's intelligence. Posters including you are pining for a coach that couldn't win the defunct Big East and bashing one that hasn't been able to win an elite conference.[/B] [B][B]Colorado was horrid in 2008 with a losing record. ECU had FIVE losses and you think that means they were good? They had a sole victory over a decent but not great VT team and wins over mediocre CUSA teams--oh and a then top ten WVU. This is not something to toot your horn over.[/B][/B] [B]You must be joking again. In 2013 WVU played in the #3 ranked BIG 12. They finished in the sagarins at 74. Iowa State was rated higher at #72. WVU had a depleted team lacking depth and experience at virtually every position that year. Conversely, BS in 2008 had a top 5 team coming off a major BCS bowl victory with a Heisman quality QB and many returners from some great teams. The Big East was only the #5 rated conference and ECU's CUSA was #8. Colorado was BAD and fired their HC that season or the next. WVU even with bad losses was #26 in the sagarins and ECU was #54 and CU #72. Those were not good losses and BS couldn't even win the weaker Big East yet, posters like yourself tout him over Dana Holgorsens accomplishments? For what?[/B] [B]Again, the level of teams being played by BS was far below what DH played as a whole. Not close. BS ALSO lost to Syracuse btw--and to a host of other teams in the Big East and below.[/B] [B]You are missing the point. Kansas State has a losing record because they play in the BIG 12--a MUCH tougher conference. Wins aren't the same no matter what league you play in--the strength of opponent matters, and DH is playing top to bottom MUCH tougher opponents year in and out--but he's had to do it with an under recruited group lacking depth, and for two or three years made of players recruited to play in a different conference. No one wants 7-5 results, but you and others pine for a coach that couldn't even win the Big East and act as though he was something great because he won 9 games in the season--ignoring who he was playing and who he lost to.[/B] [B][/B] No one is "losing a battle". Message board trolls aren't deciding the fate of WVU's HC staff try as they might. What's happening is WVU's athletic programs and reputation are being damaged in the public (and recruits) eyes by uninformed posters who bash those trying to make difficult improvements to the WVU program and falsely champion those that helped bring it down in the first place.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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