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<blockquote data-quote="Mountaineer Steve" data-source="post: 129478437" data-attributes="member: 1495432">I know you think I am anti expansion, and really I am not.&nbsp; Expansion, especially to the East would be a huge boost to WVU.I will bolster your point a bit, but go back to the real issue at hand.Actually 3 not 2&nbsp; Presidents have come out publicly in favor of expansion.&nbsp;&nbsp; OU, WVU, and Baylor.&nbsp; For the most part, everything you have posted is still correct.&nbsp; The BIG12, still has too small of a footprint, and will be at a major $ disadvantage to the SEC and BIG without a solid network. Some years a guaranteed rematch is going to be a disadvantage, and some years it will be an advantage.&nbsp; Last year it would have been an advantage since the winner of a Baylor, TCU would have certainly put the winner into the playoff.&nbsp;&nbsp; This past would not have hurt assuming OU won, but would have been a huge blow if OSU had won.The biggest disadvantage I see with the 10 team CCG is it pretty much eliminates the BIG12 from ever getting two teams into the playoff.&nbsp; This will be more prominent if CCG expands to 8 teams, which it probably will.The real issue at handYour argument falls flat because you continue to think that all the BIG12 presidents and programs think rationally or even in the same line with each other.&nbsp; The BIG12 is the most dysfunctional, conference in the history of conferences.&nbsp; It is probably even more dysfunctional than the BIG East was.&nbsp; From a competitive stand point the BIG12 was on par or better than any conference in the nation, yet the dis-functionality and discourse almost brought the conference to an end. First the conference needs 8 votes to pass expansion even if they could agree on&nbsp; teams, I don't see that happening.&nbsp; Throw in the fact that the conference can't agree on team, and you have a real mess on your hands. Texas has been and always will be in it for themselves.&nbsp; They know that no matter what happens to the BIG12, they will be in a power conference.&nbsp; You can't just dismiss Bowlsby comments because 3 presidents have publicly stated the need to expand.&nbsp;&nbsp; He knows the votes are not currently there and is why he keeps saying (We) don't want to expand.&nbsp;&nbsp; The CCG rule makes it even less likely the votes are not going to be there to expand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mountaineer Steve, post: 129478437, member: 1495432"] I know you think I am anti expansion, and really I am not. Expansion, especially to the East would be a huge boost to WVU. I will bolster your point a bit, but go back to the real issue at hand. Actually 3 not 2 Presidents have come out publicly in favor of expansion. OU, WVU, and Baylor. For the most part, everything you have posted is still correct. The BIG12, still has too small of a footprint, and will be at a major $ disadvantage to the SEC and BIG without a solid network. Some years a guaranteed rematch is going to be a disadvantage, and some years it will be an advantage. Last year it would have been an advantage since the winner of a Baylor, TCU would have certainly put the winner into the playoff. This past would not have hurt assuming OU won, but would have been a huge blow if OSU had won. The biggest disadvantage I see with the 10 team CCG is it pretty much eliminates the BIG12 from ever getting two teams into the playoff. This will be more prominent if CCG expands to 8 teams, which it probably will. The real issue at hand Your argument falls flat because you continue to think that all the BIG12 presidents and programs think rationally or even in the same line with each other. The BIG12 is the most dysfunctional, conference in the history of conferences. It is probably even more dysfunctional than the BIG East was. From a competitive stand point the BIG12 was on par or better than any conference in the nation, yet the dis-functionality and discourse almost brought the conference to an end. First the conference needs 8 votes to pass expansion even if they could agree on teams, I don't see that happening. Throw in the fact that the conference can't agree on team, and you have a real mess on your hands. Texas has been and always will be in it for themselves. They know that no matter what happens to the BIG12, they will be in a power conference. You can't just dismiss Bowlsby comments because 3 presidents have publicly stated the need to expand. He knows the votes are not currently there and is why he keeps saying (We) don't want to expand. The CCG rule makes it even less likely the votes are not going to be there to expand. [/QUOTE]

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