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<blockquote data-quote="Charleston Mountie" data-source="post: 129494573" data-attributes="member: 1427666"><p>Long winded, but probably necessary considering the amount of topic facets.</p><p></p><p>However, your view, like that of Steve is only an individual one, based as much as his on personal hope and belief. For those that bother with it, we read all of the same releases and documents and come to variables on the conclusion. You have hard lines in your belief that the GOR are ironbound and inviolate; I do not believe that. If they were ironbound, Boren's moaning about leaving would have zero teeth and he would have long ago found zero audience for his displeasure; the reverse has been true.</p><p></p><p>On most points I can go along with you and Steve and Michael and the few others that have bothered to wade into the deep of this pool, but see things a bit differently regarding the GOR because I do not believe in absolutes in anything of this nature. If the Big Ten and the SEC wanted to pluck a school under the Big-12 and/or ACC GOR, they will. It will be messy, pricey and brash, but those conferences operate that way - they both have a long track of such heavy handedness.</p><p></p><p>ESPN is big, the Big Ten and the SEC is bigger. I know our legal experts here poo-poo that idea but court cases are often about agreement and less about law in these areas. The first thing most any judge asks the defendant and plaintiff is if they can work things out and save the court the trouble - seen it many times.</p><p></p><p>The GOR is nothing more than an extreme entanglement, do not bolt yourself to those dates. As son as either the Big Ten or SEC find it in their best interest to expand, they will regardless of the presence of a GOR. When that happens, the conference under the bulls eye - in my process that is the ACC - falls apart like the Big East did.</p><p></p><p>This meeting coming up is going to end with a move to expand to 12 and a phased in solution for things like the network and the location of the CCG. Cincinnati is going to be one of the two schools but I cannot guess or that partner is. Within 3 years, the Big Ten and the SEC will raid the ACC and then FSU, GT, Louisville and Clemson will have to ask themselves do they stay and take on AAC and CUSA schools or do they join the Big-12. I think they will join the Big-12 and we all become the Big-16, which is already trademarked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charleston Mountie, post: 129494573, member: 1427666"] Long winded, but probably necessary considering the amount of topic facets. However, your view, like that of Steve is only an individual one, based as much as his on personal hope and belief. For those that bother with it, we read all of the same releases and documents and come to variables on the conclusion. You have hard lines in your belief that the GOR are ironbound and inviolate; I do not believe that. If they were ironbound, Boren's moaning about leaving would have zero teeth and he would have long ago found zero audience for his displeasure; the reverse has been true. On most points I can go along with you and Steve and Michael and the few others that have bothered to wade into the deep of this pool, but see things a bit differently regarding the GOR because I do not believe in absolutes in anything of this nature. If the Big Ten and the SEC wanted to pluck a school under the Big-12 and/or ACC GOR, they will. It will be messy, pricey and brash, but those conferences operate that way - they both have a long track of such heavy handedness. ESPN is big, the Big Ten and the SEC is bigger. I know our legal experts here poo-poo that idea but court cases are often about agreement and less about law in these areas. The first thing most any judge asks the defendant and plaintiff is if they can work things out and save the court the trouble - seen it many times. The GOR is nothing more than an extreme entanglement, do not bolt yourself to those dates. As son as either the Big Ten or SEC find it in their best interest to expand, they will regardless of the presence of a GOR. When that happens, the conference under the bulls eye - in my process that is the ACC - falls apart like the Big East did. This meeting coming up is going to end with a move to expand to 12 and a phased in solution for things like the network and the location of the CCG. Cincinnati is going to be one of the two schools but I cannot guess or that partner is. Within 3 years, the Big Ten and the SEC will raid the ACC and then FSU, GT, Louisville and Clemson will have to ask themselves do they stay and take on AAC and CUSA schools or do they join the Big-12. I think they will join the Big-12 and we all become the Big-16, which is already trademarked. [/QUOTE]
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