Really? What planet do you live on? seriously. Depending on where the most cases are, hospitals have been pushed to their very limits for much of the time the pandemic has been going on and it's still that way especially with all the hospital workers being off sick with Covid. You must have no access to any kind of news where you live. It's no wonder you are so out of touch.
Fake electors?
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You have Google, right? Tell me why you're so lazy and afraid to look for these articles yourself? It appears that you criticize and comment a lot on the pandemic when you actually have very little knowledge about it to base your beliefs on. The type of article that follows has been in the news nearly EVERY DAY since the pandemic got heated up in spring 2021. Give social media a rest as a so called info source. Don't be afraid to look at "the news". They're not out to get you.
Florida hospital turning away pregnant patients due to COVID-19 surge
Unvaccinated Covid Patients Push Hospital Systems Past the Brink
Patients turned away as COVID cases fill beds
18 Atlanta ERs Turning Away Patients As Georgia Reports Record COVID Test Positivity Rate
Some state hospitals turning people away due to being stretched thin by COVID-19 patient surge
Colorado hospitals allowed to turn away patients amid Covid-19 surge
Family: Man Turned Away by Dozens of COVID-Filled Hospitals
Moe, please for once, THINK before posting. Be rational in thought. It isn't the rising cases that is the big problem, it is the staff shortages that resulted from hospitals firing employees who refused the vaccine. Good grief man, get with it. We were told since 2020 that our health care system was on the verge of collapse.......and we are now 2022 and still hearing about the "verge of collapse". Just do an Enron and get it over with, or stop the lying to get more federal $$$$.
All I can do is bring you some info. I can't make you read it or keep you from making stuff up.
Sucks trying to reason with the willfully ignorant doesn't it. Now you know how we felt during Trumps administration.
You and Moe will post anything to throw mud on Trump. Guess its getting to be desperation time before the mid terms. So desperate its getting to be kind of funny.
Lying about election fraud and attempting to overthrow a presidential election is funny isn't it? Just shining a little light into your darkness, glad to help.
They thing this is a winning strategy.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
-Napoleon
This is fine but I want to see a real hard look into the actions of election officials in Pheonix, Atlanta, Philly, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, Las Vegas and Detroit. It is past time for some dishonest people to get prosecuted.
As far as I know, Trump’s big mouth lost him re-election. Which is why his 14yr old mind is throbbing so hard from hurt ego, that he attempted a coup to disgrace the Constitution. And even though that coup failed, because of Mike Pence, he is still whining like a baby.
I am more concerned about Trump people than I am about Trump. He is old, bitter, and talks out his *** most of the time. That people like you still believe him to be anything other than a conman, is what is really funny.
Midterms? Dems will get killed - and they deserve to, imo.
You guys using the “conman” line is hilarious. The guy did exactly what he promised campaigning he’d do when he got into office. More so than any President in my lifetime. He delivered on the exact agenda I wanted. He earned my vote happily in 20.
This information was asked for earlier ITT (a link showing masks DO NOT work) hopefully, this carefully researched & documented (peer reviewed) compilation of studies will both explain the reason for all the confusion, clear up the confusion, and reveal definitively what works in terms of face coverings and what doesn't?
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At the outset, we want to make clear that we are not "anti-mask." Rather, we are in favor of wearing the most protective facepiece for the setting—such as a non-fit tested respirator when spending more than a few minutes in a crowded indoor space—and in combination with other interventions.
The data are clear that most cloth face coverings and surgical masks offer very limited source control (protection of others from pathogens by limiting emissions from an infected person) and personal protection against small inhalable infectious particles and should not be considered a replacement for other, more effective methods of reducing one's exposure to SARS-CoV-2.
Source:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...-do-part-1-science-behind-covid-19-protection (Part 1)
...more
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...art-2-what-makes-good-mask-study-and-why-most (Part 2)
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Here in part 2 we spell out why not all studies involving cloth face coverings or surgical/medical masks warrant equal consideration. We'll detail the necessary elements of a rigorous study and explore some recent studies that, though highly touted by both scientists and the lay press, fell quite a bit short of the ideal.
Hopefully this two part study done on behalf of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota (UMN), will answer all the questions about the effectiveness of masks. It is well worth reading and is based in scientific fact, after careful review of numerous peer reviewed studies and research documents.
Again, the final conclusion:
it should be well-known by now that wearing cloth face coverings or surgical masks, universal or otherwise, has a very minor role to play in preventing person-to-person transmission. It is time to stop overselling their efficacy and unrealistic expectations about their ability to end the pandemic.
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At the outset, we want to make clear that we are not "anti-mask." Rather, we are in favor of wearing the most protective facepiece for the setting—such as a non-fit tested respirator when spending more than a few minutes in a crowded indoor space—and in combination with other interventions.
The data are clear that most cloth face coverings and surgical masks offer very limited source control (protection of others from pathogens by limiting emissions from an infected person) and personal protection against small inhalable infectious particles and should not be considered a replacement for other, more effective methods of reducing one's exposure to SARS-CoV-2.
Source:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...-do-part-1-science-behind-covid-19-protection (Part 1)
...more
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...art-2-what-makes-good-mask-study-and-why-most (Part 2)
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Here in part 2 we spell out why not all studies involving cloth face coverings or surgical/medical masks warrant equal consideration. We'll detail the necessary elements of a rigorous study and explore some recent studies that, though highly touted by both scientists and the lay press, fell quite a bit short of the ideal.
Hopefully this two part study done on behalf of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota (UMN), will answer all the questions about the effectiveness of masks. It is well worth reading and is based in scientific fact, after careful review of numerous peer reviewed studies and research documents.
Again, the final conclusion:
it should be well-known by now that wearing cloth face coverings or surgical masks, universal or otherwise, has a very minor role to play in preventing person-to-person transmission. It is time to stop overselling their efficacy and unrealistic expectations about their ability to end the pandemic.
This is the unarguable FACT answering the question that they (masks) do not prevent the spread!
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I don't know if anyone reading this thread will take the time to read through the links I've posted on the efficiency of masks, but you should especially if you think they make a difference. I'm excerpting here what I believe to be a few key lines from the research for those who won't/don't read the entire study:
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It is understandable that masks have come to play an outsized role in people's minds, because they appear to offer a relatively easy solution that, unlike other interventions, does not significantly interfere with everyday activities. It is easy to see whether someone is wearing a mask, and it is easy to blame the people who do not for spreading infection. Mask wearing (or the lack thereof) provides an easy target for blame, when there are many less observable or measurable variables that could be responsible for infection.
Also, it is easier to require people to wear masks in comparison to other, more effective interventions, such as vaccination, limiting the number of people or the time they spend in a shared space, or improving the ventilation in that space. Wearing masks provides an oversized illusion of control over a difficult-to-contain and still largely unknown disease.
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It was not until November 2020, however, that the CDC finally published a scientific brief on face coverings, which again expanded the message to indicate that they could also protect the wearer from droplets, while finally recognizing that face coverings vary widely in filtration effectiveness. The brief fails to recognize or discuss the very limited efficacy of face coverings for preventing the emission or inhalation of small infectious particles and offers no guidance for the assessment of filter efficiency, breathing resistance, or fit.
more
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The most important features of anything worn on the face to prevent the emission of respiratory particles (source control) or protect the wearer from inhaling infectious particles (personal protection) are filter efficiency, breathing resistance, and fit, in that order.
cloth and surgical masks offer a very limited degree of source control, because, while they limit the number of larger respiratory particles in a space, they do not prevent the emission of most small particles (aerosols) exhaled during breathing, talking, singing, coughing, or other respiratory actions. Because masks offer limited source control and much more limited personal protection, their effectiveness can be improved only by combining them with other interventions.
Again...please...please...please read the entire study! What hacks me off about this entire "plandemic" is how often we are either lied to or critical information is deliberately withheld from us about this virus, its origins, treatments, or real dangers behind these measures to avoid it by Fauci, the CDC, or other other government officials. I'm trying to offer here scientific, carefully researched, well documented information on these stupid masks to cut through media lies and Fauci crap & help you make a better informed decision.
Too bad our worthless media isn't as interested in providing information like this as much as they are determined to scare the Hell out of everyone about this virus?
You're welcome.
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It is understandable that masks have come to play an outsized role in people's minds, because they appear to offer a relatively easy solution that, unlike other interventions, does not significantly interfere with everyday activities. It is easy to see whether someone is wearing a mask, and it is easy to blame the people who do not for spreading infection. Mask wearing (or the lack thereof) provides an easy target for blame, when there are many less observable or measurable variables that could be responsible for infection.
Also, it is easier to require people to wear masks in comparison to other, more effective interventions, such as vaccination, limiting the number of people or the time they spend in a shared space, or improving the ventilation in that space. Wearing masks provides an oversized illusion of control over a difficult-to-contain and still largely unknown disease.
more
excerpt:
It was not until November 2020, however, that the CDC finally published a scientific brief on face coverings, which again expanded the message to indicate that they could also protect the wearer from droplets, while finally recognizing that face coverings vary widely in filtration effectiveness. The brief fails to recognize or discuss the very limited efficacy of face coverings for preventing the emission or inhalation of small infectious particles and offers no guidance for the assessment of filter efficiency, breathing resistance, or fit.
more
excerpt:
The most important features of anything worn on the face to prevent the emission of respiratory particles (source control) or protect the wearer from inhaling infectious particles (personal protection) are filter efficiency, breathing resistance, and fit, in that order.
cloth and surgical masks offer a very limited degree of source control, because, while they limit the number of larger respiratory particles in a space, they do not prevent the emission of most small particles (aerosols) exhaled during breathing, talking, singing, coughing, or other respiratory actions. Because masks offer limited source control and much more limited personal protection, their effectiveness can be improved only by combining them with other interventions.
Again...please...please...please read the entire study! What hacks me off about this entire "plandemic" is how often we are either lied to or critical information is deliberately withheld from us about this virus, its origins, treatments, or real dangers behind these measures to avoid it by Fauci, the CDC, or other other government officials. I'm trying to offer here scientific, carefully researched, well documented information on these stupid masks to cut through media lies and Fauci crap & help you make a better informed decision.
Too bad our worthless media isn't as interested in providing information like this as much as they are determined to scare the Hell out of everyone about this virus?
You're welcome.
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Because they're pushing something that clearly doesn't work! They're lying to you, and forcing the rest of us to wear something that doesn't do what they're requiring us to wear them for! It should be about our freedom of choice, not their mandates based on faulty or inaccurate information.
Masks do not work! I linked you to thorough unbiased studies ITT proving they do not work largely because the testing for them is deficient. Why aren't we being told that, instead of being forced to wear them? You think you're helping to prevent the spread of the virus wearing them which is commendable, but you are wasting your time.
Wake up!
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This is the last thing I'll post on the information I provided through the links in post # 63. Even if you don't read all of it (you should) this is the most important take away of the entire analysis & commentary IMO
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Mask wearing has been an extremely polarizing and politicized topic across the world, but especially in the United States. Endless unrealistic expectations, along with gross misinterpretation and overconfidence, have been evident, including claims that masks alone would "flatten the curve," "end the pandemic," or "reduce the clinical severity of COVID-19. Now, one and a half years into the pandemic, if masks were as effective as many believed them to be, we should have seen significant impacts. But that has not been the case anywhere on the globe.
Folks, it is time to get this right before we lose all of our Freedoms and even our ability to think for ourselves! Stop being led around by bureaucrats and media hacks who are spreading misinformation and disinformation about this virus. Get informed, and find out for yourself what is correct or True? Your lives literally depend on it.
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Mask wearing has been an extremely polarizing and politicized topic across the world, but especially in the United States. Endless unrealistic expectations, along with gross misinterpretation and overconfidence, have been evident, including claims that masks alone would "flatten the curve," "end the pandemic," or "reduce the clinical severity of COVID-19. Now, one and a half years into the pandemic, if masks were as effective as many believed them to be, we should have seen significant impacts. But that has not been the case anywhere on the globe.
Folks, it is time to get this right before we lose all of our Freedoms and even our ability to think for ourselves! Stop being led around by bureaucrats and media hacks who are spreading misinformation and disinformation about this virus. Get informed, and find out for yourself what is correct or True? Your lives literally depend on it.
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I'm still seeing people wearing them alone in their car...
Here in NJ I'd guess it's about 50/50 on people wearing or not .
Conman is not “a line”. Trump Steaks, Trump U, Trump Airline, etc….he has been one his entire life.
Failed adventures makes you a conman? Dont tell that to my kids .wonder where we would be if not for failure? Only failures are those who do not try & cry to the government for handouts.
No. Being willing to sell anything, any quality, and lying about that quality to consumers, is being a conman. I will give the man credit for his hotels (Vegas was very high quality, and i was impressed), but the majority of his business ventures were just cons.
And now he is doing it to the American people behind the seal. Double talk, lies about achievements, and the continued shameless promotion of Trump, Trump, Trump.
The current administration is “doing it”to the American people. In case you haven’t noticed, DJT is no longer in office. To me, its the MSM that is putting out all is well propaganda. But their information does not match what is actually happening. Crime is way up. Prices are going up day over day. Essentials have become very expensive and the average voter is taking note. Covid is on the rise when JB promised he’d eradicate it.
Again, the average voter is now noticing it. Saw a poll the other day where 70% of independents did not think the country is going in the right direction. You & Moe can post BS on here all day/every day (Trump this and Trump that) but at the end of the day it doesn’t match what is happening in the streets. The next election can’t come quick enough to get these Bozos out of office. Even moderate Democrats have shown a willingness to vote issues like these. Youngkin beat McAwful with votes from Northern Virginia moderate Democrats that did not like what was happening in Education.
Democrats are going to lose and lose big and nothing you can post here can change what is happening in the streets.
Again, the average voter is now noticing it. Saw a poll the other day where 70% of independents did not think the country is going in the right direction. You & Moe can post BS on here all day/every day (Trump this and Trump that) but at the end of the day it doesn’t match what is happening in the streets. The next election can’t come quick enough to get these Bozos out of office. Even moderate Democrats have shown a willingness to vote issues like these. Youngkin beat McAwful with votes from Northern Virginia moderate Democrats that did not like what was happening in Education.
Democrats are going to lose and lose big and nothing you can post here can change what is happening in the streets.
Yes Donald Trump is a con man.
He conned America when he told Americans that a house burned down with Melania in it.
Trump conned America when he said he was offered a job by an Idaho lumber company.
He conned America when he said he use to drive an 18 wheeler.
Donald conned America when he said that he visited the Pittsburgh synagogue after the 2018 massacre when the synagogue said that he'd never been there.
Trump conned America when he told voters that when he was younger he got arrested for protesting civil rights
He conned America when he said that protesters on January 6th murdered Brian Sicknick
He conned America when he said that small business are up 30% compared to before the pandemic
He lied when he said that Al Qaeda was gone from Afghanistan
He conned America when he said automobile prices are lower than before the pandemic
He lied when he said that he could send every qualified person to a 4 year college for 150 billion dollars
He lied when he said that the Boilermakers union endorsed him
Trump lied when he said that all the people who has died during the pandemic would be alive if Joe Biden did his job right.
Trump conned America with plagiarized speeches
Trump conned America when he said that he finished in the top of his law class.
These are just a few lies that proves that Trump was a conman. There are many more instances. Oh wait, that is just a small list of current President Joe Biden's many lies and cons to the American people. Joe Biden is the very definition of a conman
He conned America when he told Americans that a house burned down with Melania in it.
Trump conned America when he said he was offered a job by an Idaho lumber company.
He conned America when he said he use to drive an 18 wheeler.
Donald conned America when he said that he visited the Pittsburgh synagogue after the 2018 massacre when the synagogue said that he'd never been there.
Trump conned America when he told voters that when he was younger he got arrested for protesting civil rights
He conned America when he said that protesters on January 6th murdered Brian Sicknick
He conned America when he said that small business are up 30% compared to before the pandemic
He lied when he said that Al Qaeda was gone from Afghanistan
He conned America when he said automobile prices are lower than before the pandemic
He lied when he said that he could send every qualified person to a 4 year college for 150 billion dollars
He lied when he said that the Boilermakers union endorsed him
Trump lied when he said that all the people who has died during the pandemic would be alive if Joe Biden did his job right.
Trump conned America with plagiarized speeches
Trump conned America when he said that he finished in the top of his law class.
These are just a few lies that proves that Trump was a conman. There are many more instances. Oh wait, that is just a small list of current President Joe Biden's many lies and cons to the American people. Joe Biden is the very definition of a conman
And who are you going to vote for in that election that cant come soon enough? Yet, his unprecedented actions during his last days in power, is not relevant today? You guys are a special kind of dicks.
Those of you who hate Trump better get used to the fact that he may be back. In fact, it's looking more & more likely he's running again. At the very least, he'll be a big organizing force standing behind the candidacy of many many Republican candidates in the coming election cycle.
If you can read between the lines, he's pretty much pointing towards another run in '24 too:
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In many ways, Trump is already campaigning. At a rally in Iowa in October, the former president told supporters: "We're going to take America back." He is endorsing federal and state candidates and sends out fundraising appeals almost daily for his political action committee, "Save America," which had amassed US$90 million when it last made a disclosure to the Federal Election Commission in June.
Trump’s body language is designed to convince people he’s running, and his power is such that the GOP nomination is his for the asking,” wrote Fox News columnist Howard Kurtz on Nov. 24.
Trump told Fox News on Nov. 8 that he would "probably" wait until after the 2022 midterm to announce whether he will run again in 2024.
"I am certainly thinking about it and we’ll see," Trump said. "I think a lot of people will be very happy, frankly, with the decision, and probably will announce that after the midterms."
Translation: I have the money, political backing, desire and motivation to run again...so I think you will be happy when I announce I'm running again (my analysis)
Hey, What have I got to lose?
Run Trump...run...run, run, run!!!!!
(I'd like him to run again just to see how many of you who still hate him go stark-raving nuts?)
If you can read between the lines, he's pretty much pointing towards another run in '24 too:
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In many ways, Trump is already campaigning. At a rally in Iowa in October, the former president told supporters: "We're going to take America back." He is endorsing federal and state candidates and sends out fundraising appeals almost daily for his political action committee, "Save America," which had amassed US$90 million when it last made a disclosure to the Federal Election Commission in June.
Trump’s body language is designed to convince people he’s running, and his power is such that the GOP nomination is his for the asking,” wrote Fox News columnist Howard Kurtz on Nov. 24.
Trump told Fox News on Nov. 8 that he would "probably" wait until after the 2022 midterm to announce whether he will run again in 2024.
"I am certainly thinking about it and we’ll see," Trump said. "I think a lot of people will be very happy, frankly, with the decision, and probably will announce that after the midterms."
Translation: I have the money, political backing, desire and motivation to run again...so I think you will be happy when I announce I'm running again (my analysis)
Hey, What have I got to lose?
Run Trump...run...run, run, run!!!!!
(I'd like him to run again just to see how many of you who still hate him go stark-raving nuts?)
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So Trump will decide in large part on his record of accomplishment and levels of support for it if he'll run again in '24. Biden of course has to make the same decision based on those same factors for his re-election. Based on his current support, and his poor performance record so far, how many of you who voted for him in record numbers last year are ready to pull his lever again in a re-match v DJT '24?
I don't think many of my record numbers of voters want me anywhere this job in '24 atl
You don't say much I agree with creepy Joe, but I think you've nailed this one!
Don't worry sleepy Joe...I'll be back shortly to relieve you of your misery!
I don't think many of my record numbers of voters want me anywhere this job in '24 atl
You don't say much I agree with creepy Joe, but I think you've nailed this one!
Don't worry sleepy Joe...I'll be back shortly to relieve you of your misery!
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I’ll be voting for whoever is espousing the goals of America first. If it’s Trump in 24, I’ll vote for him. I’m hoping it’s DeSantis.