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At the end of Unsportsmanlike Conduct today on 1620, they were talking about something I've felt for awhile. A certain percentage of Nebraska fans have become too political. Some fans have got to the point that it's more important that they be right than it is for them to support the team.
Right now the are a lot of divisions in the fan base:

Some wanted Bo retained, and never have and never will give Riley a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, wanted someone else to be the HC, and never have and never will accept Riley.

Some wanted Bo gone, and we're skeptical about Riley but we're willing to give him a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, followed college football enough that they had actually heard of Mike Riley, and we're somewhat familiar with his career, and supported him when he was announced.

You could divide the fan base further, but I hope you get my point. I know people who fit in all the groups.

There are people on this board who IMHO have given the impression that they never wanted Bo gone, or wanted Bo gone, but wanted someone else, who are so freaking hell bent on "They have to be right," that they appear to take joy in these painful losses, or at least use them to pound their chest and say, "See I was right."

So we have heard on this board Riley doesn't recruit any better than Bo did (which as I've pointed out, you can't crow about Bo's class rankings and neglect to point out how many high ranking recruits never panned out, left, or were shown the door).

We've heard Riley was a .500 coach. Yea, probably at a .250 or so program. He was also courted by Bama and USC in his career.

Now we are hearing Riley can't manage games (I'll admit, criticism is justified there).

So now we have calls for everyone and the janitor to be fired from the athletic program.

So now we have postings pointing out that not all is well on the Husker roster, which was met with some criticism and questioning.

The fanbase is divided (which I dont think anyone can argue) and some fans seem to act as if they are more concerned with being right, predict and practically root for failure, so they can hope brag later and be able to say, "See, I told you so."

If the fan base is acting this way, how can you deny the possibility if not likelihood that this division has infected the roster?

There are clearly fans who can't let go of Bo, so why wouldn't there be players who haven't been able to? There had to be players who never accepted Riley and never will for whatever reason just like some fans. The team is a microcosm of society.
I'm going to go with the assumption that there are roster problems, and that just as 3 excruciating losses have caused problems among the fans, it could have easily done worse to the team chemistry and unity.

Again, assuming it is true, as there is no reason to discount the possibility, I hope the potential "problem" players realize soon, that they WILL regret it later in life if it is effecting team performance.

Finally, I really don't see Riley going anywhere for at least a couple of years. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want him to succeed, because that means the team succeeded. That's not to say I wont throw criticism out if I feel it's warranted. But all this doom and gloom, predicting or worse, flat out hoping for losses isn't healthy or helpful. But I know, to some it will still be more important to be right.

So I hope if you are going to the game on Saturday you are going to raise hell and give the team some energy, because this season is in the balance, and the team doesn't need a negative atmosphere, working it's way to the sidelines.

So if you are still more worried about being right, give you tickets to someone else.
 

sadhawk

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Guys I hate to say it but their is a pattern here. First Bo says he don't like the fans now this clown shows you he does not like the fans. What gives, have you FANS ever thought what is the root of the problem? Could it be you?
Just looking from the outside in don't shot I'm just here to watch this show!
 

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Guys I hate to say it but their is a pattern here. First Bo says he don't like the fans now this clown shows you he does not like the fans. What gives, have you FANS ever thought what is the root of the problem? Could it be you?
Just looking from the outside in don't shot I'm just here to watch this show!

Bo hated the fans, that was made abundantly clear. I don't see anywhere in the OP's comments or in any of Riley's comments (or his demeanor) that either hates the fans. Not sure where you're coming up with this line of thinking.
 

sadhawk

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Bo hated the fans, that was made abundantly clear. I don't see anywhere in the OP's comments or in any of Riley's comments (or his demeanor) that either hates the fans. Not sure where you're coming up with this line of thinking.
Sorry I was speaking of the way your OL guy treated the fans who spent good money to support their team on the road.
 
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At the end of Unsportsmanlike Conduct today on 1620, they were talking about something I've felt for awhile. A certain percentage of Nebraska fans have become too political. Some fans have got to the point that it's more important that they be right than it is for them to support the team.
Right now the are a lot of divisions in the fan base:

Some wanted Bo retained, and never have and never will give Riley a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, wanted someone else to be the HC, and never have and never will accept Riley.

Some wanted Bo gone, and we're skeptical about Riley but we're willing to give him a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, followed college football enough that they had actually heard of Mike Riley, and we're somewhat familiar with his career, and supported him when he was announced.

You could divide the fan base further, but I hope you get my point. I know people who fit in all the groups.

There are people on this board who IMHO have given the impression that they never wanted Bo gone, or wanted Bo gone, but wanted someone else, who are so freaking hell bent on "They have to be right," that they appear to take joy in these painful losses, or at least use them to pound their chest and say, "See I was right."

So we have heard on this board Riley doesn't recruit any better than Bo did (which as I've pointed out, you can't crow about Bo's class rankings and neglect to point out how many high ranking recruits never panned out, left, or were shown the door).

We've heard Riley was a .500 coach. Yea, probably at a .250 or so program. He was also courted by Bama and USC in his career.

Now we are hearing Riley can't manage games (I'll admit, criticism is justified there).

So now we have calls for everyone and the janitor to be fired from the athletic program.

So now we have postings pointing out that not all is well on the Husker roster, which was met with some criticism and questioning.

The fanbase is divided (which I dont think anyone can argue) and some fans seem to act as if they are more concerned with being right, predict and practically root for failure, so they can hope brag later and be able to say, "See, I told you so."

If the fan base is acting this way, how can you deny the possibility if not likelihood that this division has infected the roster?

There are clearly fans who can't let go of Bo, so why wouldn't there be players who haven't been able to? There had to be players who never accepted Riley and never will for whatever reason just like some fans. The team is a microcosm of society.
I'm going to go with the assumption that there are roster problems, and that just as 3 excruciating losses have caused problems among the fans, it could have easily done worse to the team chemistry and unity.

Again, assuming it is true, as there is no reason to discount the possibility, I hope the potential "problem" players realize soon, that they WILL regret it later in life if it is effecting team performance.

Finally, I really don't see Riley going anywhere for at least a couple of years. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want him to succeed, because that means the team succeeded. That's not to say I wont throw criticism out if I feel it's warranted. But all this doom and gloom, predicting or worse, flat out hoping for losses isn't healthy or helpful. But I know, to some it will still be more important to be right.

So I hope if you are going to the game on Saturday you are going to raise hell and give the team some energy, because this season is in the balance, and the team doesn't need a negative atmosphere, working it's way to the sidelines.

So if you are still more worried about being right, give you tickets to someone else.
POTW
 

leodisflowers

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Cry me a river. The fan base is always bitching about something. Even in the hay day there would be something that wasn't quite right. Either way get over it. Support the current roster and coaches and pray for progress and relevancy.
 

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Guys I hate to say it but their is a pattern here. First Bo says he don't like the fans now this clown shows you he does not like the fans. What gives, have you FANS ever thought what is the root of the problem? Could it be you?
Just looking from the outside in don't shot I'm just here to watch this show!

So, just to be clear, in this scenario Bo Pelini and Alex Lewis are the reasonable people?
 
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I like your clarity in this post NewAD and think your posts are consistently solid. This post though can be summed up by this: WINNING FIXES EVERYTHING. If from the day Dr. Osborne retired, some more intelligent decisions were made, we would not be a bitter fan base. Please don't put it all on the fans who love this program and are venting 15+ years of frustration. It's gotta burst open some day.

Anyway, I appreciate what you do, stay safe.
 
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At the end of Unsportsmanlike Conduct today on 1620, they were talking about something I've felt for awhile. A certain percentage of Nebraska fans have become too political. Some fans have got to the point that it's more important that they be right than it is for them to support the team.
Right now the are a lot of divisions in the fan base:

Some wanted Bo retained, and never have and never will give Riley a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, wanted someone else to be the HC, and never have and never will accept Riley.

Some wanted Bo gone, and we're skeptical about Riley but we're willing to give him a chance.

Some wanted Bo gone, followed college football enough that they had actually heard of Mike Riley, and we're somewhat familiar with his career, and supported him when he was announced.

You could divide the fan base further, but I hope you get my point. I know people who fit in all the groups.

There are people on this board who IMHO have given the impression that they never wanted Bo gone, or wanted Bo gone, but wanted someone else, who are so freaking hell bent on "They have to be right," that they appear to take joy in these painful losses, or at least use them to pound their chest and say, "See I was right."

So we have heard on this board Riley doesn't recruit any better than Bo did (which as I've pointed out, you can't crow about Bo's class rankings and neglect to point out how many high ranking recruits never panned out, left, or were shown the door).

We've heard Riley was a .500 coach. Yea, probably at a .250 or so program. He was also courted by Bama and USC in his career.

Now we are hearing Riley can't manage games (I'll admit, criticism is justified there).

So now we have calls for everyone and the janitor to be fired from the athletic program.

So now we have postings pointing out that not all is well on the Husker roster, which was met with some criticism and questioning.

The fanbase is divided (which I dont think anyone can argue) and some fans seem to act as if they are more concerned with being right, predict and practically root for failure, so they can hope brag later and be able to say, "See, I told you so."

If the fan base is acting this way, how can you deny the possibility if not likelihood that this division has infected the roster?

There are clearly fans who can't let go of Bo, so why wouldn't there be players who haven't been able to? There had to be players who never accepted Riley and never will for whatever reason just like some fans. The team is a microcosm of society.
I'm going to go with the assumption that there are roster problems, and that just as 3 excruciating losses have caused problems among the fans, it could have easily done worse to the team chemistry and unity.

Again, assuming it is true, as there is no reason to discount the possibility, I hope the potential "problem" players realize soon, that they WILL regret it later in life if it is effecting team performance.

Finally, I really don't see Riley going anywhere for at least a couple of years. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I want him to succeed, because that means the team succeeded. That's not to say I wont throw criticism out if I feel it's warranted. But all this doom and gloom, predicting or worse, flat out hoping for losses isn't healthy or helpful. But I know, to some it will still be more important to be right.

So I hope if you are going to the game on Saturday you are going to raise hell and give the team some energy, because this season is in the balance, and the team doesn't need a negative atmosphere, working it's way to the sidelines.

So if you are still more worried about being right, give you tickets to someone else.
 
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Great post. I agree some people want to be right no matter what it costs the program. People talk about how bo made the program toxic, and he did, but a certain segment of the fan base helped make it toxic with the constant bitching about everything. and while I'm speaking my mind I'll say this. A lot of people have been on a. Lewis about his behavior and saying he needs to grow up, and I agree, but its a two way street. Some fans need to grow up
 
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More "blame the fans" nonsense.

Blame the fans for what??????

If that is what you got out of what I wrote you are reading something that is not there.

Are you denying the fan base is divided?

Are you saying that the team couldn't be divided?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion (and you don't even know what mine is), but when your opinion is more important than hoping the team wins that's a problem.

Finally, my plea was no matter what your opinion is, I hope the fans put it aside Saturday and create an electric atmosphere in the stadium that the potentially fractured team can feed off of. Call me.crazy, but I'd like to freaking beat Bucky Badger for only the 2nd time since joining the conference.

So I'll say what would be nonsense, would be 90000 people not doing what we know they can do, and that's help the team win Saturday, due to their personal opinion getting in the way.

Every once in awhile the crowd at Memorial stadium gets off their *** and rises to the occasion. Usually this has been for big games. We'll this is a big game for a different reason. This is the first time in my life Nebraska has been 2-3. I hope the fans don't sit on their hands and help Wisky make it 2-4.
 

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Nebraskans are famous for years of "coffee shop talk." It's a braggart's rights to something that really isn't theirs. Over time we've gone from coffee shops to social media. The only difference is most are anonymous and don't own up these days.
 
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Guys I hate to say it but their is a pattern here. First Bo says he don't like the fans now this clown shows you he does not like the fans. What gives, have you FANS ever thought what is the root of the problem? Could it be you?
Just looking from the outside in don't shot I'm just here to watch this show!

This message board could improve. For instance we could include a basic math equation to be solved during the registration that would keep out people like you.
 
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The fans aren't playing the game. If the players couldn't go out an play in an empty lot they should check their motivation.

The fans are doing their part by filling the stadium and paying their way to travel places like Miami and Illinios. You don't think the stadium is "electric" enough tell the people around you at the game - I'm very skeptical of what impact you're going to have on a message board on Wednesday morning. It's a 2:30 game against Wisconsin in good weather, I'm pretty sure the atmosphere will be great

The people who say "fire everyone" are fringe and getting laughed out of the room. Riley's going to get at least 2 years, probably, if not more.

And fans should be divided and unhappy. This has been a junior high level product put in place of where a top 10 all time program used to be. They need to get their **** together because right now they're not going to make a bowl game playing like this.
 
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Blame the fans for what??????

If that is what you got out of what I wrote you are reading something that is not there.


Perhaps you don't know what you wrote.


At the end of Unsportsmanlike Conduct today on 1620, they were talking about something I've felt for awhile. A certain percentage of Nebraska fans have become too political. Some fans have got to the point that it's more important that they be right than it is for them to support the team.
 

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This message board could improve. For instance we could include a basic math equation to be solved during the registration that would keep out people like you.
 

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It can be fixed ver quickly if fans just quick going to games and did not follow the team anymore - Out sid eof that people will be people and nebraska fans are no different than any other school other than they care a bit more

I have thought maybe a really bad stretch could help the program in the long run - have the stadium half empty and then when a new coach is hired he would get to build the program correctly without any expectations
 
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Last year a coach or player did something that could've been portrayed in a boneheaded way after a loss at South Carolina and the media guys asked Spurrier about it and he said he hadn't heard of it, but "at least they care."

We don't have apathy yet here, but how much more would it take until apathy sets in? Apathy was setting in during Callahan.
 

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Bo hated the fans, that was made abundantly clear. I don't see anywhere in the OP's comments or in any of Riley's comments (or his demeanor) that either hates the fans. Not sure where you're coming up with this line of thinking.