They exploited that matchup to the tune of 5 points. Gary's basketball analysis is impeccable.
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They exploited that matchup to the tune of 5 points. Gary's basketball analysis is impeccable.
IDK Sky, wouldnt Barnes presence in Char-Hill take a lot of emphasis off Hanstravel's killer inside game for the Hornheels???
OFC
gary is just too easy. Lol. Constant excuses over there as to why they don't land top 10 kids. Yep, they are all glad that Roy refuses to do it "that" way. Haaaa. Roy will not "dumb down" his "system". ...the best "system" ever invented. Lolll. gary is just too damn much. What a fool.
"...and for all the gnashing of teeth over the issue, OADs will never be a staple here nor should they. Yeah, Roy will put out some offers but it weeds itself out pretty quickly as to which kids have their heads on right enough to actually fit in while they're here as opposed to trying to make Chapel Hill their own pre-NBA showcase. We've also had players who were expected to be OAD decide against that course once they got here.
Also remember that Roy ain't gonna dumb-down his system (like some other coaches have) to accommodate more early minutes.
As long as Roy is comfortable with a given OAD fitting in then that's fine by me, but at the same time personally I like watching kids actually stay and develop and mesh into the best system ever invented. But maybe that's just me...."
"...and for all the gnashing of teeth over the issue, OADs will never be a staple here nor should they. Yeah, Roy will put out some offers but it weeds itself out pretty quickly as to which kids have their heads on right enough to actually fit in while they're here as opposed to trying to make Chapel Hill their own pre-NBA showcase. We've also had players who were expected to be OAD decide against that course once they got here.
Also remember that Roy ain't gonna dumb-down his system (like some other coaches have) to accommodate more early minutes.
As long as Roy is comfortable with a given OAD fitting in then that's fine by me, but at the same time personally I like watching kids actually stay and develop and mesh into the best system ever invented. But maybe that's just me...."
Haha, the same system that has led to one fewer championship between Smith and Williams combined compared to K
Roy's system is not complicated. On top of that, these kids have been playing organized hoops for a long time now. I think they can figure out a few x and o type stuff. Especially those that are going to be playing for money someday. The whole dumbing down the offense line is funny though. Coach K "dumbed down" his system in 2015 to the tune of a natty and 3 first round picks in the NBA draft.
Den you know it takes quite awhile to learn how to attach a ladder on a players back that they can climb up so they get their teammates
Roys system is very complicated.Do u realize how long it takes to learn how to attach a ladder on someone elses back to climb over them without getting called for a foul
Roy just offers to offer I guess is what it comes down too. Roy stated in his postgame press conference after the elite 8 after he was asked if it means more to have experienced guys rather than the OADs- paraphrasing here- It does but i definitely want those types of kids too- the OADs.
Let me dumb down Gary's posts for everyone- I'm making every excuse imaginable as to why the top kids don't want to play for UNC. The End.
Let me dumb down Gary's posts for everyone- I'm making every excuse imaginable as to why the top kids don't want to play for UNC. The End.
Thanks. I needed that dumb down but it really and always has that hof coach roy williams and unc pick only the players that they want and other recruits really have no say so in the process. Even the players they get have no say so because how can they turn down hof coach roy williams. OFC
Just for the record, I disagree with almost 90% of the sentiment on here.
Mocking Dean Smith, saying Roy is overrated, equating his system as being so easy a caveman could do it, etc. And of course I don't expect anything less from fans of the rival team. You know us so well right?
But there is not a more narcissistic, arrogant jackass than that fool who continues to poison the Tar Heel fanbase with his presence. And I don't need to spell it out for you to know who I'm talking about.
Mocking Dean Smith, saying Roy is overrated, equating his system as being so easy a caveman could do it, etc. And of course I don't expect anything less from fans of the rival team. You know us so well right?
But there is not a more narcissistic, arrogant jackass than that fool who continues to poison the Tar Heel fanbase with his presence. And I don't need to spell it out for you to know who I'm talking about.
Just for the record, I disagree with almost 90% of the sentiment on here.
Mocking Dean Smith, saying Roy is overrated, equating his system as being so easy a caveman could do it, etc. And of course I don't expect anything less from fans of the rival team. You know us so well right?
But there is not a more narcissistic, arrogant jackass than that fool who continues to poison the Tar Heel fanbase with his presence. And I don't need to spell it out for you to know who I'm talking about.
So the 10% of the stuff you agree with is enough to keep you coming back, huh?
Not to mention the stupidity in his complaints about the treatment of Dean's Myth and ole Roy. I wonder if he scolds the dipshits at THR for their treatment of Krzyzewski.
Not complaints. Just pointing out the fact that you guys don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to "class". Funny, I don't see anyone here standing up for Dean or Roy either.
OFC baby. Yeah does that mean "oblivious farting curmudgeons", "original flying camel", or "old f**kers club"?
Just for the record, I disagree with almost 90% of the sentiment on here.
Mocking Dean Smith, saying Roy is overrated, equating his system as being so easy a caveman could do it, etc. And of course I don't expect anything less from fans of the rival team. You know us so well right?
But there is not a more narcissistic, arrogant jackass than that fool who continues to poison the Tar Heel fanbase with his presence. And I don't need to spell it out for you to know who I'm talking about.
carolinablue forgive me but I honestly don't know which narcissistic arrogant jackasses from your THR fanbase you are speaking of but it's likely one of 3 or 4. Maybe it's the one you quarrel with regularly which had originally caused me to have respect for you. You do realize that much of the venom towards THR you read here is based on the utterly stupid remarks about the UNC greatness and the disdain shown to Coach K. Now you are talking more crap about us OFC guys so there goes the respect I had, so you should go away now.
How could we ever compare class when Duke fans get banned from THR for blinking at the wrong time and phony nice guys like you are given a chance to engage in conversation here? We have a pretty strong leg to stand on IMO.
Everyone go grab your popcorn
the last few pages are pure entertainment https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/who-will-be-our-next-commit.39840/page-8
the last few pages are pure entertainment https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/who-will-be-our-next-commit.39840/page-8
Right, because saying Roy's system is not difficult, he's an overrated coach, and that he makes a lot of excuses is exactly like calling him satan, or rat face, or anything else as nonsensical. I mean, how dare we question his basketball ideas and approaches on a basketball board rather than hurl personal insults at him? What the hell are we thinking?
But hey, if you believe you've made a good point, you run with that, haha.
Everyone go grab your popcorn
the last few pages are pure entertainment https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/who-will-be-our-next-commit.39840/page-8
Damn @carolinablue34 you are a victim of your own people. You should just denounce uNC now. In five years you can apply to be a Duke fan. It's very rare that people are accepted their first time. But who knows? You might be an exception.
Yep, they know something about taking "exceptions" in that admissions dept over there, lol....
OFC
I actually logged out to read that thread. It's gold.
Not necessarily. There are plenty of Carolina fans over there who feel the same way I do. Most just never post on radar.
I seen plenty of low blow insults from your fanbase so don't pretend that everything you say about Dean and Roy is simply "constructive criticism."
I don't like K, but I'm certainly not going to hate the guy or say he isn't a HOF coach.
Wow, the "Who will be our next committ?" over on THR is one of the all-time great threads. The sophomoric retorts never stop. Thank you, THR! Thank you!
My pleasure. OFC. You guys never cease to amaze me.
I wouldn't confuse criticism with hate. I don't think anyone actually hates Roy and certainly not Dean. We might criticize their participation or knowledge of the scandal but I don't think you'll find many here calling them horrible or dispicable human beings etc. all things that the usual suspects over at thr are guilty of to an extreme degree.
On that note- I don't think you need to roll over here after those same usual guys tried to call you out for being a Duke apologist and show you're not one. You're a unc guy and that's fine. When it comes to having spirited or fun debates I'd rather do it with a rational unc fan than delusional Duke fan, as I'm sure you're the same in the opposite. The guys over there are insanely delusional which is why this thread is made up of 55 pages 90% of which come from 6-7 posters.
You're welcome to post here anytime- the difference between here and there is that rather than even try and retort their many moronic statements, I would just ratter post them here and us laugh, bc responding to them just isn't worth it.
Why should we stand up for Roy or Dean? I certainly would never expect you to do the same. I acknowledge they're both great and I'd have to be an idiot to think they're not. Taking some friendly jabs is part of the rivalry. Grow thicker skin.
Low blows? Yeah, probably. They exist. But I think 90% of the posters here know Dean and Roy are both elite and great. That doesn't mean a pot shot isn't worthy sometimes. K is no different.
You're a better poster than your last few posts in this thread. Just because a few irrational idiots on your board think you might be a "dook" fan doesn't mean you need to come here and prove them wrong. Be yourself. If you want to be an *******, then fine....
The fact of the matter is this....UNC fans aren't going to like some of the stuff said here, and Duke fans won't like some of the things said at THR. It doesn't mean all of us have to be irrational like Gary.
I did come off very strong. And you both guessed correctly that I was trying to prove my loyalty to my team. It's not every day you get called a 'duke apologist' by people who root for the same team as you. I didn't know common sense made you a fan of your rival.
I must admit @timo0402 and @dukiejay you guys handled this respectfully and reasonably. To be fair I shouldn't have aired dirty laundry over here on the rival board. General rule of thumb is that you stick together and take care of your own problems.
But again, I'll be more civil whenever I poke around now and then. The one thing I will not turn into is gary. I can provide a much better perspective on Carolina then he and his lackeys ever could.
I must admit @timo0402 and @dukiejay you guys handled this respectfully and reasonably. To be fair I shouldn't have aired dirty laundry over here on the rival board. General rule of thumb is that you stick together and take care of your own problems.
But again, I'll be more civil whenever I poke around now and then. The one thing I will not turn into is gary. I can provide a much better perspective on Carolina then he and his lackeys ever could.
Wipe your nose when you are done, carolinablue.
That is a funny thread though.
That is a funny thread though.
I don't think I said we were offering constructive criticism, just criticism.
UNC says the same things about K and don't try to spin it otherwise, we all respect Dean and Roy here but if you expect a rival board to praise everything they do, then you better think again... Although I hope Roy coaches another 20 years and saves all of his timeouts....
And by the way, look at your fanbase, if I'm not mistaken in the middle of the year, your fans were calling for his head and for him to be fired. Now he's a top tier coach? I give it til end of December/early January until the fanbase calls for his head again and say he can't coach
And by the way, look at your fanbase, if I'm not mistaken in the middle of the year, your fans were calling for his head and for him to be fired. Now he's a top tier coach? I give it til end of December/early January until the fanbase calls for his head again and say he can't coach
Some of you may have read this already but this one from DSouthr is just too good. Roy's primary goal is education. Lollll, how do these clowns even dare say such ridiculous s**t?? Wow.
"You are exactly right gary, Roy will never as long as he is coach gear his program to feature freshmen or reduce the primary goal that every college has being about the education. AS popular as it has become to take un-warrented shots at UNC over academics, the dirty little secret they do not want to share is that UNC has always taken academics as of greater importance that most schools. The schools actually most guilty of cheapening the value of education to their athletes are the very fans bases that screamed for us to be extremely punished?
It kinda of amazes me that Ky fans spoke so much hatred of UNC during our NCAA issues and tried to say it was because they actually gave a darn about their players educations? It was hyprocracy to the nth degree. They know full well athletes are and always have been admitted to SEC programs that could not get admitted to ACC programs, geez, that is exactly why the gamecocks left the ACC. SEC programs take diploma mill athletes and crow about how great their sports teams are, Ky tried to convince us John Wall was an honor student? Give me a break!
Roy is never going to prostitute this program just so we can win a couple more games a year. I hate to see duke has elected to go down that road, IMO it severely cheapens that duke degree. But now K, having now full shifted to the one & done model out of one corner of his mouth talks about the duke education and the other side he talks getting you away from duke as quickly as possible. As the "senior citizen" of the NCAA coaching ranks and as a man given the grand stage to take a stand for the very core values the NCAA orginally formed under, he has taken the lazy cheap way out just to add a few more career wins and maybe another natty to his collection."
"You are exactly right gary, Roy will never as long as he is coach gear his program to feature freshmen or reduce the primary goal that every college has being about the education. AS popular as it has become to take un-warrented shots at UNC over academics, the dirty little secret they do not want to share is that UNC has always taken academics as of greater importance that most schools. The schools actually most guilty of cheapening the value of education to their athletes are the very fans bases that screamed for us to be extremely punished?
It kinda of amazes me that Ky fans spoke so much hatred of UNC during our NCAA issues and tried to say it was because they actually gave a darn about their players educations? It was hyprocracy to the nth degree. They know full well athletes are and always have been admitted to SEC programs that could not get admitted to ACC programs, geez, that is exactly why the gamecocks left the ACC. SEC programs take diploma mill athletes and crow about how great their sports teams are, Ky tried to convince us John Wall was an honor student? Give me a break!
Roy is never going to prostitute this program just so we can win a couple more games a year. I hate to see duke has elected to go down that road, IMO it severely cheapens that duke degree. But now K, having now full shifted to the one & done model out of one corner of his mouth talks about the duke education and the other side he talks getting you away from duke as quickly as possible. As the "senior citizen" of the NCAA coaching ranks and as a man given the grand stage to take a stand for the very core values the NCAA orginally formed under, he has taken the lazy cheap way out just to add a few more career wins and maybe another natty to his collection."
That is a HOF THR post right there. So much over the top delusion. Not only is he dead wrong on nearly every single thing he touched on, but the sheer irony in so much of it is hilarious. Case in point- ROY openly stated on many many occasions how he wants these OAD kids, yet THR morons like DSouth and the gang dont understand that just because you dont get them doesn't mean you're not trying.
Roy is deeply invested into the academic excellence of his student athletes; he said so himself. "I have somewhat control over the basketball program. I don't have control over the academic side. But the academic side and our athletic director and our president want me to emphasize that academic side every single day, and they want our players to understand that."
How so? Because we laugh at the juvenile meltdowns and inane commentary over at THR?
Perfect post! So the whole time they were recruiting Ingram and Giles, they were expecting them to stay more then a year?