Yep, pretty scary. That guy is a HUGE dbag. As are most over there. His big drill is calling K "Knight Light". Sooooo clever! DERP....
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Yep, pretty scary. That guy is a HUGE dbag. As are most over there. His big drill is calling K "Knight Light". Sooooo clever! DERP....
Hark the Sound, sounding off on jchammock about "recruiting over"
what does recruiting over mean?- JC
Even you aren't that dense. Recruiting over means getting freshmen in that you intend to start over your upperclassmen. Good for the team/program - but bad for the player.- Hark
So, the player is more important than the team? The program? SO you should sacrifice wins LATER in that players career if he hasn't gotten better, the future of the program even after said upperclassmen graduates, and most likely the coaches career at said school because you don't want to hurt the upperclassmen's feelings?
Now that is taking a drastic look at it to make a point on my end. but the reality is is, competition is what happens when you continue to recruit the best players regardless. What about when UK recruits four or five big men in the same class? Are they recruiting over their own recruits? Seriously- last year UK brought in three so called PGs- were they recruiting over Ullis? NO, ullis still started and was the POY.
Duke recruited Luke Kennard- was Grayson Allen being overrecruited? Seems to me Grayson, despite Hark's point, progressed as a player, just fine.
Overrecruiting/Recruiting over is a moronic made up term. You put the best product you can out there, no matter what sport or business you have. The cream rises to the top- sometimes thats older guys, sometimes thats new talent.
what does recruiting over mean?- JC
Even you aren't that dense. Recruiting over means getting freshmen in that you intend to start over your upperclassmen. Good for the team/program - but bad for the player.- Hark
So, the player is more important than the team? The program? SO you should sacrifice wins LATER in that players career if he hasn't gotten better, the future of the program even after said upperclassmen graduates, and most likely the coaches career at said school because you don't want to hurt the upperclassmen's feelings?
Now that is taking a drastic look at it to make a point on my end. but the reality is is, competition is what happens when you continue to recruit the best players regardless. What about when UK recruits four or five big men in the same class? Are they recruiting over their own recruits? Seriously- last year UK brought in three so called PGs- were they recruiting over Ullis? NO, ullis still started and was the POY.
Duke recruited Luke Kennard- was Grayson Allen being overrecruited? Seems to me Grayson, despite Hark's point, progressed as a player, just fine.
Overrecruiting/Recruiting over is a moronic made up term. You put the best product you can out there, no matter what sport or business you have. The cream rises to the top- sometimes thats older guys, sometimes thats new talent.
^ The only people who bring up the "recruited over" nonsense are people who aren't landing elite guys regularly (i.e. UNC).
Lot to do with a sense of entitlement as JJ said in his speech to team last year paraphrasing you are either improving or being left behind
I come over here for the same reason many of you go over to THR:
And skysdad... you never fail to deliver entertainment. OFC
Yes, that's what I posted over there. But the rest is an interpretation that I never implied:
I agree that a coach/team should attempt to recruit the best players possible. Many times that will result in recruiting over current players (UK and Duke have both had this happen). It is what is best for the team - but that doesn't mean the player has to like it. I'm not saying that UK should have avoided recruiting over Lee, I'm just saying that I understand why Lee wasn't thrilled about it and looked to transfer.
Yes that's true Hark but you see I'm banned from thr and to be honest I wouldn't post there if I could. It just isn't worth it but we are who we are right hark. I think you know this but if our mods were like your mods you would have been gone long ago. Just ask one of them. OFC
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I believe it would only be fair to incoming recruits to guarantee that any scholarship offered to a future recruit of similar position be at least one star less than said recruit. An example would be signing a 5 star PG. Any scholarship offered while that 5 star PG remains on the roster would be 4 or less stars. That way no one ever has to compete for playing time and we ensure that no one ever has their feelings hurt, especially jealous bitter UNC fans/philanthropists
-you're simply implying the term to be a negative recruiting practice, it's not. it's common sense to recruit the best guys you can get. it's also a sour grapes term. Was marcus paige recruited over by nate britt and joel berry?
1. Lee was going to be a Senior, so by your logic, he was "recruited over" all four years including in his own year because he wasn't even the only C in his incoming freshman class.
2. "player shouldn't be thrilled." - i mean, obviously, no one is saying you have to like it, but you can either quit, beat the damn guy out or ride the pine, those are your three options. I guess a fourth is that you can simply out work the guy with more talent and earn minutes, even though the other guy is also getting his.
1. Lee was going to be a Senior, so by your logic, he was "recruited over" all four years including in his own year because he wasn't even the only C in his incoming freshman class.
2. "player shouldn't be thrilled." - i mean, obviously, no one is saying you have to like it, but you can either quit, beat the damn guy out or ride the pine, those are your three options. I guess a fourth is that you can simply out work the guy with more talent and earn minutes, even though the other guy is also getting his.
Common sense, dude. Common sense.
Arguably, UK, UNC, and Duke are the three most prestigious basketball programs in the country. You're not getting a pass. When you sign up, unless you're an idiot, you know they're recruiting the best of the best every year. That means you're not guaranteed anything.
Out of grad school I knew my employer wasn't going to stop looking for qualified, young talent that could be a threat to me. You're implying that Lee should be pissed because UK recruited guys as good, potentially as good, or potentially better, than him. ********. Grade school is over.
You're right DukieJay, this recruiting over is a bunch of BS! I coached high school football for about 15 years. I had a freshman running back who was one of those players you might get once every 30 years. I had a senior back who started as a junior. The senior started the year off as our number one back, but by the 3rd game our freshman became the starter. The job as a coach is to play and start the kids that give your program the best chance to win. It's not about trying to make sure you don't hurt someone's feelings. I get so sick and tired of all this politically correct ********! The name of the game is to win or you're looking at selling your house and trying to find another job.
"Recruiting Over" is just a lame excuse for UNX not getting top notch recruits!
And Skysdad you're right, the Tarholes come over here and spout all kinds of crap and don't get banned, yet if we say one thing over at THR that hurts their little feelings we're banned immediately. They cuss us and brag about banning us, what a bunch of losers. They can all go straight to hell!
Sorry for the rant, I feel better now.
"Recruiting Over" is just a lame excuse for UNX not getting top notch recruits!
And Skysdad you're right, the Tarholes come over here and spout all kinds of crap and don't get banned, yet if we say one thing over at THR that hurts their little feelings we're banned immediately. They cuss us and brag about banning us, what a bunch of losers. They can all go straight to hell!
Sorry for the rant, I feel better now.
Between the "recruiting over" justification and the only reason they don't get recruits being the negative recruiting about the "JUNK" it's pure comedy central over there.
Stilman White, Joel James, Desmond Hubert, and Jacksons Simmons all got the shaft as far as being recruited over is concerned. Such a shame. They had so much promise.
The whole term recruited over is a bunch of crap. Greta coaches know that recruiting is the bloodline of a successful program. By not recruiting top players at every position every year is doing a big disservice to the future of the program. On top of that, players leave unexpectedly more often these days. What happens when you think a guy is gong to stay and you do not have any other options because you didn't recruit depth at that players position?
Seriously, the term is made up by those who want to negatively recruit against your program and by those whose coaches do not fair as well on the recruiting trail. Fans of those programs more so. Top tier guys who have a good work ethic could care less about a little competition.
Seriously, the term is made up by those who want to negatively recruit against your program and by those whose coaches do not fair as well on the recruiting trail. Fans of those programs more so. Top tier guys who have a good work ethic could care less about a little competition.
Lol, please. If you were being completely unbiased then you would admit that the nut jobs at THR are nothing like you find here. I can't even think of one poster here that acts like your cast of idiots. You, keysersosay, legendary idiot gary, Archer, DSouthr (that guy is just WOW), the thin skinned mod mike, Steat...and on and on. Cute little nicknames like Archer's ever so witty "Knight Light" when referring to K or keysersosay, I believe, always referring to Duke as LTCC due to his obsession about The Lance Thomas thing. Is he saying Lance Thomas Community College? Duuuhhh. Yeah, guys, Coach K went to a jeweler and did some shady stuff to get Lance a jewelry loan, or whatever it is you guys try to spin there. Amazing.
Yeah we got our bad apples. To be honest, I get pissed off at the sheer stupidity that happens in THR that's become the norm.
However, we're not all half wits like chapelheeled. If I were a mod it'd be different, but I'm not so what can do you do?
On a side note, there are a few reasons why we aren't getting the top guys. But that's a whole different story. Just wanted to inject my two cents.
Keep it classy.
OFC skysdad haha
However, we're not all half wits like chapelheeled. If I were a mod it'd be different, but I'm not so what can do you do?
On a side note, there are a few reasons why we aren't getting the top guys. But that's a whole different story. Just wanted to inject my two cents.
Keep it classy.
OFC skysdad haha
Much appreciated. And just for the record, I defend your guys when they come on our board just to talk about CBB. If it were all up to gary they'd be banned the second the tried to have a dissenting opinion. Hell he'd kick out any Heel fan with a different opinion.
I've even been accused of being an undercover dook fan.
I've even been accused of being an undercover dook fan.
You could always change your evil ways. Its never to late to come to the dark side of the blue...
Sorry Emperor Palpatine, I'm still fiercely loyal to my Heels, I trust in Grand Master Roy haha.
I realized the day I would never stop hating Duke was when Hansbrough and co. beat JJ on senior night. Don't think I've hated a player more than him.
Yeah, it will be hard to find a player I hate worse than Hansbrough as well.
You hated him because he was good. Just like we hated JJ because he was good.
Lay there and cry Hansbrough
Now get up and hide behind your weakest looking teammate.
Now get up and hide behind your weakest looking teammate.
Lay there and cry Hansbrough
Now get up and hide behind your weakest looking teammate.
Scathing. You can hold onto that all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that he owned your *** for four years.
Yeah bro "OFC". Some of you say that a lot but I don't think it means what you think it means
Hey man, it means anything we want it to mean but it's actually Old Farts Club. I was going to post something to you ugly but then I read what you said about chapelheeled so I kept it nice.
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I thought it meant "Old Feta Cheese", looks like I wasn't that far off haha.
Yeah chapelheeled is my biggest enemy over there. Don't know how many paint chips he consumed as a kid but as of now he doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.
Well carolinablue if he is your biggest enemy over there then you are ok in my book. I think he has sniffed too much airplane glue.
Not with that spelling. LOL and by the way I do know you try to defend Duke somewhat but with the way you did spell Duke here it's pushing it a little to look at you as a reasonable poster to this board. It's the same thing as one of us and posting the very same thing you have said on this post but instead of dook fan we inserted tar hole fan (which by the way is the first time I have ever spelled it that way and I only spell it that way to make my point) that would be the last post we ever made on thr. So feel fortunate that you allowed to peak freely as you do. even gsd who is one of the biggest Duke critics at thr is popping up with likes posted by tar heel fans. But just like I told hark_ the_ sound you are what you are and I am what I am. The ignore button is easy to push if it gets to far out of the way. OFC
Yep carolinablue, if you want to keep in good grace on our board you need to drop the word dook. Sky is correct in that we would be banned at thr before we finished typing tar hole.
And she got around!
Yeah you make a good point. I won't use it on here whenever I swing by. However, "dook" (just using it as an example) is definitely not the worst nickname we've come up for you, just like "tar hole" is probably not the worst you got for us haha.