And that will become increasingly more difficult if he refuses to adjust as a coach.what's more important to Roy than winning, is winning his way.
And that will become increasingly more difficult if he refuses to adjust as a coach.what's more important to Roy than winning, is winning his way.
Did GSD really say "you people at DI are absolutely nuts"? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black then I don't know what is lolYou should start a thread at thr titled, "favorite DI quotes".
pretty sure he was being facetiousDid GSD really say "you people at DI are absolutely nuts"? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black then I don't know what is lol
I'm not so sure about thatpretty sure he was being facetious
Courtesy of @Sk1310 prior to Game 5 on Monday night:
"Harrison goes for 20+ tonight with Green out. He is option 3 now."
In retrospect, this prediction is just hilarious. Barnes has essentially been a non-factor this entire series, despite a couple of doubt digit performances. Did anyone else catch the part last night during the game when Van Gundy said Barnes was losing himself millions by playing so terribly? So true. This series has proven he is not worth a max contract. Meanwhile Kyrie continues to excel.
On a related note, Steph Curry's wife must be a UNC fan given the tone of her conspiracy theory tweets last night.
To your first point, I agree. That's just Roy. I know Roy wants to win, but what's more important to Roy than winning, is winning his way.
To your second point, I disagree. I think it's the opposite from what you say. All other variables being equal (coaching, health, etc), the veteran model allows for more consistency but lacks the potential for super highs and super lows. The OAD model I feel has potential for higher highs but also lower lows and it's more succeptable to inconsistent play.
LOLLLL! C'mon KELLEN. You actually have inside info as to what Roy thinks? Hahahahahahaha. You people at DI are absolutely nuts.
To your first point, I agree. That's just Roy. I know Roy wants to win, but what's more important to Roy than winning, is winning his way.
To your second point, I disagree. I think it's the opposite from what you say. All other variables being equal (coaching, health, etc), the veteran model allows for more consistency but lacks the potential for super highs and super lows. The OAD model I feel has potential for higher highs but also lower lows and it's more succeptable to inconsistent play.
LOLLLL! C'mon KELLEN. You actually have inside info as to what Roy thinks? Hahahahahahaha. You people at DI are absolutely nuts.
Is that all you got?? I understand it must suck knowing that you aren't getting any of the elite recruits anymore but come on. All you people do now is try and rationalize it in your heads as to why you are "glad" you don't get the OAD type of recruits anyhow. Lol.
That's true. Although if you go too far in the other direction then you run the risk of not having a good season as well. Kentucky's NIT season proved that. I think the best way to do it is to have a mix of 3-4 year players and one or two oad players.And that's a philosophical coaching thing. I get what Roy is saying and I think all of us would appreciate the college game more if things were more like they were, say, 20 years ago....but the reality is they're not. I admire what UNC did this past basketball season from a purist standpoint....getting to where they got with a core of veterans. It's not easy in today's college basketball. The problem with that philosophy is that while an admirable venture the consistency is often times going to lack. UNC's advantage is that they're still UNC, even if they're not recruiting at the highest of levels....because they're still going to recruit better than 90% of other college basketball programs. Their problem, however, is that they might be forced to go through seasons where they "only" win 20-25 games and struggle to get into the second weekend. That said, Duke hasn't made it out of the first round twice in five years.
He recruited and offered most, if not all, of them so I'm sure he would love to have them.And he would LOVE to land the likes of Okafor, Jabari, Tatum, Giles, Monk, Bam, Fox, etc... and gladly tell them they are ready after one year. He simply knows he won't be getting them.
I think the best way to do it is to have a mix of 3-4 year players and one or two oad players.
I think that is a great idea! It would be funny to see it IMO.You should start a thread at thr titled, "favorite DI quotes".
That's true. Although if you go too far in the other direction then you run the risk of not having a good season as well. Kentucky's NIT season proved that. I think the best way to do it is to have a mix of 3-4 year players and one or two oad players.
You should start a thread at thr titled, "favorite DI quotes".
That is true. The way I look at the idea is if you are goung to give it (our thread here) then it's fair game to get it back. The back and forth is a large part of the rivalry. Which is a lot of fun to be part of!At least they could see our poast since most of us have been banned.OFC
And what if he blows up this year and is likely to go in the first round? Would that make him any less of a man? They need to rethink their line of reasoning on this one.Seventh is a "UNC type of kid" because he will be there for 4 years. Ha ha.
If Barnes plays 30 plus minutes, Cavs win!Look at Harrison Barnes tonight. Pathetic, and those clowns at THR are talking about him getting a max deal. Any GM that does that should be fired immediately.
Seventh has been compared by some on THR to the likes of Russell Westbrook and Vince Carter; they'll be lucky to have him for all four years.
Holy hell that felt like I was reading a novelAll of my fellow Dukies must go the thread by dsouthr titled "7th woods, this is the player we are getting". He has written a very opinionated short story, about two chapters anyway, and his take on most of "the other than UNC recruits, or the other highly recruited basketball recruits UNC isn't getting and their selfishness, me first attitude and greedy actions that he says are typical I guess of the ones that don't choose to be a Tar Hole. His purpose in this story was to rub on a current Duke recruit and to make it sound like Woods is some kind of saint just because he seems to think he has a sweet disposition. Woods is no different I imagine than most young players that has his head on straight, as most do. Read what he has to say showing the usual UNC Cheats venom and holler than thou attitude shown towards other conferences and the much superior schooling they receive at Cheats U. This man is one on the most anal and conceeded UNCheats there is and he makes a fool of himself over and over.
I haven't even seen Woods play and I already dislike him.
Woods is a decent kid. Sadly, he was duped by a turd in a baby blue sports coat previously owned by Burt Reynolds.All of my fellow Dukies must go the thread by dsouthr titled "7th woods, this is the player we are getting". He has written a very opinionated short story, about two chapters anyway, and his take on most of "the other than UNC recruits, or the other highly recruited basketball recruits UNC isn't getting and their selfishness, me first attitude and greedy actions that he says are typical I guess of the ones that don't choose to be a Tar Hole. His purpose in this story was to rub on a current Duke recruit and to make it sound like Woods is some kind of saint just because he seems to think he has a sweet disposition. Woods is no different I imagine than most young players that has his head on straight, as most do. Read what he has to say showing the usual UNC Cheats venom and holler than thou attitude shown towards other conferences and the much superior schooling they receive at Cheats U. This man is one on the most anal and conceeded UNCheats there is and he makes a fool of himself over and over.
I haven't even seen Woods play and I already dislike him.
If academics were Seventh's primary concern, he would have gone to Georgetown. DSouth is fooling himself with that nonsense.DSouthr is implying that Woods chose UNC because of some academic quality unique to UNC
Bingo. He's a big part of the reason the Cavs won the series. Couldn't hit an open shot to save his life. It says a lot about you as a player when you're riding the bench in favor of Varejao.Look at Harrison Barnes tonight. Pathetic
Barnes is dispensable. He's not a play-maker; he's not an alpha dog. 90% of the time he just sits in the corner and waits to shoot an uncontested three-pointer. Might as well save some money and get a lesser sought-after free agent, albeit someone who can knock down shots with more consistency like Jared Dudley or Anthony Morrow. Heck they could just as easily promote Brandon Rush to the starting position - he primarily the bench, but is more than capable of knocking down 40% of his threes.
Barnes is a solid NBA player. He's not as good as some UNC fans think he is, but he's not as bad as what some here have painted him to be, either.
At best, he's the fourth-best player on a championship-caliber team. He could be the #2 or #3 on some teams....but they're likely not playing once regular season ends.
I completely agree here. I got what you were saying- before the series I bought into the hype that barnes might come near max dollars. Well those days are long gone after the way he played this series and in particular the last three games going 5-32. And those weren't 32 contested shots, those were LARGELY wide open looks. Those are facts, not made up royal blue glasses look at it. He cost himself a boatload. And it's pretty much right after Gary stated that he was relishing the matchup with Kyrie....boy did that come back to bite them all in the ***. Kyrie goes on to make the shot of the series and vastly outplay the 2x mvp- he did so while barnes was absolute trash.I agree with the overall sentiment. Perhaps my tone came off a bit negative, but my basic point was that he's not an absolute must-have for the Warriors. He's a good athlete with a decent outside shot; but judging by the way he's been utilized in Golden State, he can easily be replaced. Almost every team has a player or two that, for the most part, camps in the corner and waits for the open shot, and Barnes fills that role quite nicely. I would guess that he'll have more opportunities to have a starring role on a less prominent team, but he's never going to be a main cog for Golden State. GS can't afford to pay him $16 mil a year when they have Curry, Thompson, and Green making the lion's share of the plays. He is dispensable - shooters will always be available on the market, and for far less than what Barnes' asking price will be.
Barnes is a solid NBA player. He's not as good as some UNC fans think he is, but he's not as bad as what some here have painted him to be, either.
At best, he's the fourth-best player on a championship-caliber team. He could be the #2 or #3 on some teams....but they're likely not playing once regular season ends.
dukiejay you hit the nail on the head, he is not anywhere nearly as good as some on thr praise him to be. I know we had this same discussion last year in the playoffs but again I don't think he is a 2 or a 3 player on any NBA team. Look at that particular teams roster and who will you take the 2 or 3 slot away from to give him. He did play better in last seasons playoffs but there are some really better players in those slots on practically all teams.Barnes is a solid NBA player. He's not as good as some UNC fans think he is, but he's not as bad as what some here have painted him to be, either.
At best, he's the fourth-best player on a championship-caliber team. He could be the #2 or #3 on some teams....but they're likely not playing once regular season ends.
If he wants to go to a contender though, he'll have to take a paycut.