100% rationalizing on their part, especially when you consider the fact how many OAD recruits had UNC offers over the past several years.
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I saw that, the mods here are very accepting of the garbage spewed out by some UNC fans, and that's why they're better than the THR mods
UNC's last 5 class rankings according to RSCI:
2016: 8
2015: NR
2014: 3
2013: 12
2012: 4
When you get top 5 classes to stay around for four years, fielding a competitive team should be expected. But when was the last time Roy actually had a 5* recruit commit to UNC? Try May of 2013. Kentucky, Kansas, and Duke are picking up 5-star kids left and right. UNC should be on the same level as those three schools. And let's not forget that they're actually trying to snag top recruits - but, unfortunately for them, they consistently fail to seal the deal.
UNC crapped the bed in 2015; offered 15 of the top 25 guys in 2016 without signing a single 5* commit; 2017 big men targets now feature Jericho Sims and Isaiah Stokes (guys who are outside the top 100 by many recruiting services). So yes, Roy is killing it on the recruiting trail. His team will be fine for now. But UNC will start to feel the effects of mediocre recruiting in 2018 and 2019. Those teams will be saturated with good, but not elite combo guards. #RoyDoingWork
Umm, Tony Bradley was a 5 star in the final rankings. *derp*
As far as this answering my question, you did. Roy has been able to compete (for a title) without elite talent. I guess that speaks to his ability to coach. Thanks for backing me up.
With regard to mediocre recruiting for '18 and '19, we have two potential 5 stars already signed for 2018. There isn't another team in the country that can say that. But yes, we need bigs. I'm sure Roy will sign some. Not worried.
Yeah, point was that when you have pretty much everyone stay for 3-4 years you are bound to have a good season here and there, due to the experience of so many upperclassmen.
Guess you missed the part where you had the #4 and #3 recruiting classes stick around for multiple years. That surely didn't help your 2016 team.
Bradley is a fringe 5-star prospect. ESPN has him in the top 25, but Rivals/Scout/247 do not. Good luck hauling in another big man. You probably won't need it, though, as Luke Maye has all the ingredients for being a deadly stretch 4.
No. Composit rankings have him as a 5 star.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
So does Scout.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/2016-basketball-prospects
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/2016-basketball-prospects
And ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
You're posting on Rivals. If you're interested in using 24/7 composite rankings to rationalize your position, you should post over there.
WTF is that supposed to even mean? Yes, we had the #4 and #3 recruiting class stick around. And we competed for a title. Good for us? WTF are you getting at?
You lose and get nothing either. Because 247, Scout and ESPN all have Bradley as a 5 star. So you should go with your altered argument - now it's fringe 5 stars, huh? Ok. Personally, that's the kind of talent I like signing because as you recognized, they stick around. That's good for us.
Aww, looks like someone got all pissy when they were shown to be wrong. I'm sure you'll be right one day. Just don't go up against me. That decreases your chances significantly.
Get some self-awareness. Seriously. You're the only one who has been fact checked repeatedly as wrong this morning.
Another hollow threat from an anonymous internet troll. You still want to fight me, tough guy? I'm still laughing about that.
Selective memory? You just said Roy competed for a title without elite talent. Two top 5 classes evidently isn't very elite.
Dude, don't be a moron. I showed that Bradley is a 5 star in 3 of 4 rankings. You found him to be a 4 star in 1 of 4 rankings. But now you're claiming that because we're poasting on Rivals that we have to use Rivals rankings. Seriously, that's as weak of an argument as I've seen you make. And you have a propensity of making weak arguments.
You fact checked and proved nothing. And now you're simply spinning just so you don't have to eat it. Just eat it and shut up.
I don't want to fight you. I mean, I guess I would. But I don't necessarily want to. But I'll be in WW for the Nov 10 game. Any chance you want to meet up and work this out? we might be able to bury the hatchet. I'll let you buy me a beer after we talk.
Wait a minute...so now Roy is able to recruit elite talent? But...you just said...Roy can't sign elite talent.
I think you need to change your argument again. You need to say that Roy can't sign super-elite talent. Yeah, that's it.
Or I could just refer back to the fact that he hasn't signed a 5* kid since May of 2013. Berry, Pinson, Jackson, and Hicks all signed in the Spring of 2013 or earlier.
Getting a couple of fringe 5-star recruits like Bradley, Felton, and Black doesn't hide the fact that UNC has fallen flat on the recruiting trail in the last 3 years. A blueblood like UNC shouldn't strike out at such an alarming rate.
Getting a couple of fringe 5-star recruits like Bradley, Felton, and Black doesn't hide the fact that UNC has fallen flat on the recruiting trail in the last 3 years. A blueblood like UNC shouldn't strike out at such an alarming rate.
By the website hosting the forum you're now posting on. Again, this isn't Scout, ESPN, or 24/7. It's Rivals and we're posting on a Rivals forum, so it's not asinine to lend credence to Rivals rankings in these types of discussions.
That dude is such a douchebag. Good choice of targets. I'd like to fist fight that insufferable prick.
I assume you're talking about Mark Gastineau? That guy sucks. There's not many people I'd like to hurt after having "met" them online. But I'd hurt that guy. I'd enjoy hurting him. Is that bad?
I don't associate with trash.
Since we cant ask this on that POS THR. Why are the top 10 or top 20 kids not signing with UNCheat anymore?
Why do you even try. He is obviously someone who wears a helmet on the short bus.
Ok, I just poasted it at all those sites too. And everyone there agreed that you're using a pitiful argument.
That's what I thought you'd say.
You'd have to ask them. I don't know the answer. But I'm sure you can come up with something where you make fun of Roy and call us clever names like UNCheat. Go ahead, give it a try.
That conclusion is insulting to the mentally challenged.
Not really. UNC did cheat and has admitted to it. And once again, his own fan base makes fun of Roy, unnecessary for us to really gang up on the ole redneck, awe shucks, phony.
Handlers. Roy and company steer clear of any recruit that has a shady group of handlers, which evidently appears to be just about every elite recruit in recent memory. Except Justin Jackon, of course, who surprisingly didn't have any handlers. Roy will not associate with any group of individuals that will in anyway tarnish the Carolina Way. #GDTBATH
Come on, Mark...don't do this. You know fully well that pic was photoshopped. Roy wouldn't do such a thing. Here's the original pic (below). Now please don't misrepresent Mr. Williams like that again.
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Come on, Mark...don't do this. You know fully well that pic was photoshopped. Roy wouldn't do such a thing. Here's the original pic (below). Now please don't misrepresent Mr. Williams like that again.
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Take his word for it Mark. This guy knows photoshop.
No. Composit rankings have him as a 5 star.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Basketball/CompositeRecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool
So does Scout.
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/2016-basketball-prospects
And ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2016/order/true
Cool. He is obviously a VERY fringe 5 star. A 4 star on rivals and on scout and 247 he is just inside the 5 star category. 3 spots away from being a 4 star on both scout and espn.