I don't think he is a POS. I've been called that on thr and I'm not that for sure. He is however a idiot and if anyone is obsessed with Duke and Coach K it's him. I kind of feel sorry for him. I don't even think thr respects him as a whole board. If we had a poster like him I would hope he would just go away or ours mods really work on him. I've really made fun of him but when he stated he hoped our Olympic team would lose because of Coach K I look at him entirely different than I used to. He's kind of like Mike Nifong in a way. Willing to fabricate anything to make Duke look bad. He went after our LX team knowing he had nothing but was so obsessed with seeing Duke go down he was willing to let innocent people pay a price that he knew were innocent. gary-7 is that obsessed with Coach K and Duke. That is sad.
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I don't think he is a POS. I've been called that on thr and I'm not that for sure. He is however a idiot and if anyone is obsessed with Duke and Coach K it's him. I kind of feel sorry for him. I don't even think thr respects him as a whole board. If we had a poster like him I would hope he would just go away or ours mods really work on him. I've really made fun of him but when he stated he hoped our Olympic team would lose because of Coach K I look at him entirely different than I used to. He's kind of like Mike Nifong in a way. Willing to fabricate anything to make Duke look bad. He went after our LX team knowing he had nothing but was so obsessed with seeing Duke go down he was willing to let innocent people pay a price that he knew were innocent. gary-7 is that obsessed with Coach K and Duke. That is sad.
Never get into a shouting match with an idiot, onlookers will not be able to tell the difference.
You forgot wheels for heels, iceberg mouth guards, fats, and drug dealing former players living in Roy WHEELiams' house.
But "shenanigans " never go down at good old unCHEAT.
From keysersosay#1
The last five minutes of that are a must for all tar heel fans especially those who have been relentless in their criticism of Roy and his recruiting, and most especially all the misses he has had recently. As he said he didn't become stupid all of a sudden as we have gone 1/18 with the Burger boys since 2014, despite all his and his staffs best efforts. The NCAA cloud has had a massive effect on this program and Roy has said it has cost us at least 6 top ten players, with Ingram being one of them.
Please help me here. Did hof coach roy williams recruit Ingram ? This is news to me. Is he actually saying that unc did recruit McD All-Americans and wasn't getting them. This is entirely different from the theory that o my understanding that hof coach roy williams and unc do not recruit OAD's. Aren't at least a few McD' A.A's considered OAD's. I'm really confussed now. OFC
The last five minutes of that are a must for all tar heel fans especially those who have been relentless in their criticism of Roy and his recruiting, and most especially all the misses he has had recently. As he said he didn't become stupid all of a sudden as we have gone 1/18 with the Burger boys since 2014, despite all his and his staffs best efforts. The NCAA cloud has had a massive effect on this program and Roy has said it has cost us at least 6 top ten players, with Ingram being one of them.
Please help me here. Did hof coach roy williams recruit Ingram ? This is news to me. Is he actually saying that unc did recruit McD All-Americans and wasn't getting them. This is entirely different from the theory that o my understanding that hof coach roy williams and unc do not recruit OAD's. Aren't at least a few McD' A.A's considered OAD's. I'm really confussed now. OFC
No Sky, you have simply misinterpreted unc recruiting. None of the 17 McD All Americans that Roy missed on were one and done type players. This includes the ones that only played one year of college ball. Ingram was not a OAD, he only player one year though and like the 17 they missed on, none were OAD. At unc, first they say this and then they say that and they just get confused promoting which excuse they want to go with. As you always say, they can't help it.
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One thing you gotta give Roy credit for is that he retains players like no other. I mean, even four-year bench players stay put in Chapel Hill. Stilman White, Joel James, Desmond Hubert, and Jackson Simmons will have all graduated within a 3-year span. I assume Luke Maye will be another. And OAD players quickly re-evaluate their future once they arrive on campus; they soon realize that one season in Chapel Hill simply is not enough. I assume for the quality education and five-star coaching. Roy should be celebrated for his efforts to encourage youngins' to believe in education - and to believe in the Carolina Way. #GDTBATH
Here is that "Roy has too much integrity to go in the gutter for recruits..." thread. Lol.
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/roy-on-katz-greenbergs-podcast.45047/
https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/roy-on-katz-greenbergs-podcast.45047/
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What are they down to now over there, 5 posters. I wonder if mikey and the other mods ever sit back and say, wow, someone or some have driven off participants in our board.
Brandon Ingram was going to Duke. Despite was misguided UNC posters would have you believe. I have no doubt that the cloud over UNC cost them a few recruits, but Ingram was never thiers to begin with.
Classy quotes from the most intelligent fanbase in the world:
keysersosay: "Well obviously Vader over at LTCC has gone all in on the OAD idea...but hell that guy would sell his grandma for a natty."
TPFKAPFS: "I am so proud that our coach won't change his ethics just to get a few recruits and possibly an extra win or two."
keysersosay: "Well obviously Vader over at LTCC has gone all in on the OAD idea...but hell that guy would sell his grandma for a natty."
TPFKAPFS: "I am so proud that our coach won't change his ethics just to get a few recruits and possibly an extra win or two."
What a joke. And that moron keysersosay always thinks he is so clever with his little LTCC (Lance Thomas Community College) thing.
Exactly. How many times have we seen this? Yet another way of making their little minds feel a bit better. "Brandon wanted so bad to go to UNC but in the end the scandal and negative recruiting were just too much to overcome..." Suuuure thing, fellas.
Here's the bottom line. No true unc fan no matter how good he is would ever come to Duke and vice versa. At least that's the way it is where I come from. Brandon Ingram is from there. OFC
ROY RECRUITS ALLLLLL OF THESE OADs. This they never seem to grasp or figure out. Hence why they continue to regurgitate the same moronic posts when they fail to land OAD talents.
K has repeatedly said, he continues to look for and recruit the same guys he did and would have 10-15-20+ years ago- just today they have to not only stay one year by rule, but these kids and the culture that is built today in the NBA are just leaving instead of staying around. He had a good comment when he went on JJs podcast a few weeks back- said that in today's day and age JJ could have even been a OAD after the freshman season he had. Same with guys like Jason Williams or Elton Brand. Brand even got hurt his freshman year! No chance in the world he would have come back today. One isn't right and another isn't wrong it's just the way it is these days.
Bottom line you adapt or you perish. Roy can't sell OADs currently and thus isn't winning those battles. It sure as **** ain't for a lack of effort or "ethics" that he's not getting these kids. Idiots like those guys Key and TPFK are just that- delusional morons. Deadly combination.
Bottom line. hof coach roy williams recruits OAD's. They just don't go to unc. OFC
@TPFKAPFS: I am so proud that our coach won't change his ethics just to get a few recruits and possibly an extra win or two. I see him changing a great deal to adjust to the changing recruiting landscape, but I'm glad he has an ethical line he will not cross. This is representing my beloved U's ideals and not just mortgaging our beliefs for a few pieces of silver!
@DSouthr responding after someone said UNC fans denying any academic impropriety sound like Penn State fans after Sandusky:
Or maybe duke lacross fans? LOL
Of all the asinine things I have seen over there, this honestly might be the most offensive to me. Duke lacrosse fans are comparable to Penn State fans supporting a program that turned a blind eye to Sandusky's reprehensible conduct for decades? The "LOL" really takes the cake. It's a laughing matter to him that 3 innocent kids almost got railroaded by a morally corrupt DA (and double UNC alumnus) and almost had their lives ruined forever? On what planet is that a laughing matter? I swear, just when you think some over there couldn't get any more pathetic, they post trash like that. Simply reprehensible.
Or maybe duke lacross fans? LOL
Of all the asinine things I have seen over there, this honestly might be the most offensive to me. Duke lacrosse fans are comparable to Penn State fans supporting a program that turned a blind eye to Sandusky's reprehensible conduct for decades? The "LOL" really takes the cake. It's a laughing matter to him that 3 innocent kids almost got railroaded by a morally corrupt DA (and double UNC alumnus) and almost had their lives ruined forever? On what planet is that a laughing matter? I swear, just when you think some over there couldn't get any more pathetic, they post trash like that. Simply reprehensible.
What a disgusting loser that guy is. Just throws that line out there because it brings Duke into it. Surprised he didn't go with the usual DOOK. Anyhow, those kids were totally exonerated and it was proven that they were completely innocent and pretty much used as pawns for that scumbag DA and his political purposes. Him saying something so completely moronic makes no sense whatsoever.
mikeirby:
"Not worth getting in there and wallowing with the swine to have a OAD kid. jmhho"
Ha haaaa....
"Not worth getting in there and wallowing with the swine to have a OAD kid. jmhho"
Ha haaaa....
The problem is Roy can't make enough in roads with the recruits and their families. Roy would have taken every single one of Duke's OAD kids. In fact, he offered them all.
I spared everyone and didn't post the entire novel. Here is a snippet of another DSouthr rant and why he is glad Roy is "old school."
"Now some coaches have, be it artificially or not, have at least tried to make it seem as if they are hip to the mindset and trends this generation loves. No, I don't think Drake is kalipari's favorite musician, and no I do not believe K spends much if any of his time each day on social media. There are 3 dollar bills less phoney than those 2 but they do realize the importance of creating the perception that they are current even if they aren't."
"Now some coaches have, be it artificially or not, have at least tried to make it seem as if they are hip to the mindset and trends this generation loves. No, I don't think Drake is kalipari's favorite musician, and no I do not believe K spends much if any of his time each day on social media. There are 3 dollar bills less phoney than those 2 but they do realize the importance of creating the perception that they are current even if they aren't."
Another little DSouthr snippet:
"Example, shoe companies, if Nike is steering kids to particular schools then why are we not reminding Nike that UNC is one of their flag ship schools and have been for a long time. If shoe company influence is steering kids to other Nike schools then where are ours?
Now I asked a few days ago, maybe on this thread, when Roy discovers dirty tricks on the recruiting trail, why does he not report them to the NCAA, why does any coach trying to do things cleanly not report the illegal stuff when they discover it? Mikey replied something about lying down with swine, IMO you only lay with swine if you do nothing, evil exists when good men do nothing about it. So I have no good answer for that outside of Roy considers most NCAA head coaches his friends and does not want to hurt his friends. I am sorry but if Roy discovers NCAA violations occurring by other coaches and does nothing about it then he would be facilitating that behavior and should not."
"Example, shoe companies, if Nike is steering kids to particular schools then why are we not reminding Nike that UNC is one of their flag ship schools and have been for a long time. If shoe company influence is steering kids to other Nike schools then where are ours?
Now I asked a few days ago, maybe on this thread, when Roy discovers dirty tricks on the recruiting trail, why does he not report them to the NCAA, why does any coach trying to do things cleanly not report the illegal stuff when they discover it? Mikey replied something about lying down with swine, IMO you only lay with swine if you do nothing, evil exists when good men do nothing about it. So I have no good answer for that outside of Roy considers most NCAA head coaches his friends and does not want to hurt his friends. I am sorry but if Roy discovers NCAA violations occurring by other coaches and does nothing about it then he would be facilitating that behavior and should not."
Uh, someone should inform him that is exactly what he does every day moderating the pig trough known as THR.
Archer and more of the "Roy is 'old school'" garbage.
" Roy is old school and not apt to change drastically, nor do I want him to. If it means fielding teams with no top 15 players, so be it. I know the thought of that is appalling to some of our fans, especially some of the younger fans. But I'm fine with it."
" Roy is old school and not apt to change drastically, nor do I want him to. If it means fielding teams with no top 15 players, so be it. I know the thought of that is appalling to some of our fans, especially some of the younger fans. But I'm fine with it."
Believe it or not this is not DSouthr, but Ned Cota. It is a bit long but this hilarious garbage is worth it. Heels are FAMILY, dadgummit!!
"I think the bigger point here is that Roy believes in doing things the RIGHT way. Not the legal way, or the new way, or the cool way, or the young way, or the Cal or K way, or the World Wide Wes way, or the Adidas way. We can't look at it from the perspective of whether or not other school's recruiting practices are NCAA violations, or if they're swine-like, or if they're extremely successful in gathering OAD talent.
To understand Roy's choices is to understand Carolina. He could deal with handlers and shoe companies to get a kid to commit to Carolina, but would he even know the kid that shows up to campus? Would he be able to fit him in to what he's trying to accomplish and has for so many years? He might get the kid here, but would it work out? Maybe, but without building a relationship with the player and his family and truly understanding where he comes from it would be a flip of the coin on every single commit Roy lands. Blind dates can be awesome or brutal. Going about things that way is exciting and unpredictable. If it works, you can compete for a national title with 5 kids who have been on campus for a semester like Kentucky in 2011. If it doesn't, you can get bounced in the first round of the NIT...like Kentucky in the very next year, 2012.
This will never, ever, be the goal of Carolina basketball regardless of who our coach is. There's a reason that the "Family" is a thing at UNC. Do you think the average UK fan even remembers half the OADs that have been through there? Do you think there's a good environment for a kid to rely on for the rest of his life when he gets pushed out by the next recruiting class like Derryck Thornton just did at dook?
Roy is putting it plain and simple...If you want to come to Carolina, I'm going to get to know you, I'm going to get to know your family, I'm going to get to understand your goals, and you're going to get to understand how you fit into the program, and begin to understand what it means to be a part of this family. If we're all in agreement, only THEN will I consider inviting you to the most exclusive and successful basketball environment ever imagined by modern men.
This is not a business transaction. Its a relationship through basketball. Its what keeps Carolina above this nasty fray and if it keeps us from nabbing a couple 5 star PROSPECTS, then they probably wouldn't have worked here anyway.
Family. THAT'S why it's always a GDTBATH."
"I think the bigger point here is that Roy believes in doing things the RIGHT way. Not the legal way, or the new way, or the cool way, or the young way, or the Cal or K way, or the World Wide Wes way, or the Adidas way. We can't look at it from the perspective of whether or not other school's recruiting practices are NCAA violations, or if they're swine-like, or if they're extremely successful in gathering OAD talent.
To understand Roy's choices is to understand Carolina. He could deal with handlers and shoe companies to get a kid to commit to Carolina, but would he even know the kid that shows up to campus? Would he be able to fit him in to what he's trying to accomplish and has for so many years? He might get the kid here, but would it work out? Maybe, but without building a relationship with the player and his family and truly understanding where he comes from it would be a flip of the coin on every single commit Roy lands. Blind dates can be awesome or brutal. Going about things that way is exciting and unpredictable. If it works, you can compete for a national title with 5 kids who have been on campus for a semester like Kentucky in 2011. If it doesn't, you can get bounced in the first round of the NIT...like Kentucky in the very next year, 2012.
This will never, ever, be the goal of Carolina basketball regardless of who our coach is. There's a reason that the "Family" is a thing at UNC. Do you think the average UK fan even remembers half the OADs that have been through there? Do you think there's a good environment for a kid to rely on for the rest of his life when he gets pushed out by the next recruiting class like Derryck Thornton just did at dook?
Roy is putting it plain and simple...If you want to come to Carolina, I'm going to get to know you, I'm going to get to know your family, I'm going to get to understand your goals, and you're going to get to understand how you fit into the program, and begin to understand what it means to be a part of this family. If we're all in agreement, only THEN will I consider inviting you to the most exclusive and successful basketball environment ever imagined by modern men.
This is not a business transaction. Its a relationship through basketball. Its what keeps Carolina above this nasty fray and if it keeps us from nabbing a couple 5 star PROSPECTS, then they probably wouldn't have worked here anyway.
Family. THAT'S why it's always a GDTBATH."
Lot of good material over there right now. DSouthr responding to someone that was laughing about how UNC has some nerve to act like they are above anyone after what has been going on there. Another Tar Hole with their head in the sand.
"Curious how " program responsible for the biggest student-athlete academic scandal ever!" the NCAA after how darn many separate investigations and years to look in to it, with the books totally open and no resistance what so ever by UNC to any of those investigations and yet the NCAA FINDS NOTHING AT ALL TO PUNISH UNC MENS BASKETBALL for? Duke would not as much as give a hint when it came to lance Thomas getting big time bling at STRONG DISCOUNT while at duke, would not even discuss where the money came from for him to pay what he did pay the jeweler? Myron Piggy funnels money to duke players and how were they punished for that? Kalipari has his bag man WWW do all his dirty work and you accuse UNC of the biggest student athlete fraud ever? I guess you don't care what the truth actually was, you one of those Dan Kane worshippers that prayed for that nut job to be right, problem is your prayers were not answered..."
"Curious how " program responsible for the biggest student-athlete academic scandal ever!" the NCAA after how darn many separate investigations and years to look in to it, with the books totally open and no resistance what so ever by UNC to any of those investigations and yet the NCAA FINDS NOTHING AT ALL TO PUNISH UNC MENS BASKETBALL for? Duke would not as much as give a hint when it came to lance Thomas getting big time bling at STRONG DISCOUNT while at duke, would not even discuss where the money came from for him to pay what he did pay the jeweler? Myron Piggy funnels money to duke players and how were they punished for that? Kalipari has his bag man WWW do all his dirty work and you accuse UNC of the biggest student athlete fraud ever? I guess you don't care what the truth actually was, you one of those Dan Kane worshippers that prayed for that nut job to be right, problem is your prayers were not answered..."
It's unbelievably comical that arguably the most tainted program in NCAA history has a fanbase that thinks they are the shining gold-standard for integrity. It's not just a couple of posters on THR that think that - it's the majority. They can do no wrong. #thrlogic
Archer here. And LOM is his cute little tag for K (Leader of Men), just in case someone may not know. His sarcastic nonsense.
Well put Ned.
"It was never "just about winning as many games as possible" for Dean and it never has been for Roy. Some people don't understand the reasoning behind that philosophy, or if they do, just don't agree with it. I agree with it 100%.
With guys like the LOM and Cal, it's nothing more than a numbers game. Sign the top ranked class every year, win as many games as possible every year, put as many guys in the pros to build your name brand every year, etc... Their image and stature mean much more than any relationships they may build with their players.
Give me a guy like Roy any day."
Well put Ned.
"It was never "just about winning as many games as possible" for Dean and it never has been for Roy. Some people don't understand the reasoning behind that philosophy, or if they do, just don't agree with it. I agree with it 100%.
With guys like the LOM and Cal, it's nothing more than a numbers game. Sign the top ranked class every year, win as many games as possible every year, put as many guys in the pros to build your name brand every year, etc... Their image and stature mean much more than any relationships they may build with their players.
Give me a guy like Roy any day."
I'd gladly give them Roy every day, just give me K
I hope Roy coaches UNC forever.
Sounds about right. The rest of his post is garbage, but this part is accurate. Numbers do not lie. : )
Riiiiiiiight. So circumventing legitimate classes was never about winning? I suppose he only instituted "anomalous classes" simply because he hated to see his players stress about class. In the words of former Ohio State Quarterback, Cardale Jones, "We ain't come here to play SCHOOL."
I really wonder if they're making these posts just to get us riled up? I mean, they can't seriously believe some of that stuff, can they?
dj, I often wonder that as well. However they are consistent enough where I actually think they buy into it. Think about how rediculous it sounds that a coach like Roy at a hoops program like UNC not recruiting all the top kids because of his morals and ethics. Meanwhile, there is not one other program in the country that is the same as that? LOL, it really makes one wonder what the heck they are thinking when they say dumb things like that. Also, it should be noted that some of the very top recruits, also happen to be top of the line people as well. Just because they have people looking out for them on the recruiting trail, it doesn't mean they are all up to negative things. Like the UNC faithful; (whose program can't get a second look from OAD's currently) would have you believe.
I'm telling you that some of thr are institutionalized and they are allowed to have computers and some of them some how found their way to thr. OFC
Sky he may not be a pos but if comes across in person anything close to how he acts online,he is a prime candidate to get his *** kicked