FBS Playoff Announcement

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I think they let Miami in because they didn't want to ACC to get shut out. If UVA would have won, then I'd expect Notre Dame and Miami to get in. But we're headed for a 16 team playoff, no CCG. Notre Dame getting shut out gets that done. Alabama getting in after that CCG performance lets everyone know that the CCGs are mostly irrelevant.
I wouldn't doubt that Miami got in based on some hard lobbying from Disney/ESPN, which basically owns the CFP and has the ACC to broadcast. Notre Dame is NBC, nobody to lobby for them (so sad - NOT).
 

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ND will soon say,"OK,we will join a conference if that is what it takes, as long as it is not the BIG10 or the SEC. We will join the little sister conference, the ACC. We already know how to get to these places since we play most of them anyway along with army and navy. " That should it!!!
I think they'll join the Big Ten--their ego won't allow them to be an ACC team
 

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ND will soon say,"OK,we will join a conference if that is what it takes, as long as it is not the BIG10 or the SEC. We will join the little sister conference, the ACC. We already know how to get to these places since we play most of them anyway along with army and navy. " That should it!!!
you are probably right.
 

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In the last two weeks, Alabama squeaked by a bad Auburn team, and got blown out by Georgia. In that same time, Notre Dame played one game and blew out Stanford. Those results ended with Alabama moving ahead of Notre Dame
An awful Stanford team that went 4-8 and lost to Hawaii
Who did ND beat this year?
You have to compare the entire resume. Bama beat Georgia in Athens--they beat #3. ND has nothing close to that. They lost to A&M and Miami.
 

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So then, they got penalized for losing a conference championship game, right?
They didn't--they weren't in
I'm not sure what you're not following here. To be penalized you'd have to be dropped out--they were trying to "earn" an AQ spot which has nothing to do with the poll.
 
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No team that missed the playoffs is “worthy”. Teams that missed might have an argument compared to other unworthy teams that made it but it’s not like some 15th best team deserves to have a shot at winning an MNC.

8 teams would be more than enough to make sure all “worthy” teams get in
Why are you still saying MNC when there’s no more “M” in it?
 

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Alabama moved ahead of Notre Dame last week after they slipped by Auburn and Notre Dame blew out Stanford. That made no sense. Now they stay ahead of them after getting their doors blown off? Makes no sense.
Gotta agree here. If the CCGs aren’t supposed to matter, stop scheduling them. Indiana beat Ohio State yesterday, gets the #1 seed. So the CCGs matter when it comes to ranking UI and OSU but not Alabama and Notre Dame? Alabama looked bad yesterday, not a good team.

I can see the sense in the arguments of keeping out Notre Dame, ND’s issues are not trivial, but Alabama got dominated yesterday.
 

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I'd flip them but remember losing the CCG doesn't truly matter.
I didn't watch the reveal show, as I have very little interest in the playoff with us not in it, so I don't know what was discussed. It seems that we were penalized last year for losing the conference championship game, and it seems that BYU was penalized for losing their championship game this year, but Alabama and Ohio State were not. I don't really understand that other than Alabama got in because they were Alabama and Ohio State didn't drop because they are Ohio State.

I am very happy though that Notre Dame didn't get in (maybe they should fire their coach!). I was hoping that Miami wouldn't get in because I think it would show just how weak the ACC really is in the minds of the committee. I guess I can't have it all.
 

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I didn't watch the reveal show, as I have very little interest in the playoff with us not in it, so I don't know what was discussed. It seems that we were penalized last year for losing the conference championship game, and it seems that BYU was penalized for losing their championship game this year, but Alabama and Ohio State were not. I don't really understand that other than Alabama got in because they were Alabama and Ohio State didn't drop because they are Ohio State.

I am very happy though that Notre Dame didn't get in (maybe they should fire their coach!). I was hoping that Miami wouldn't get in because I think it would show just how weak the ACC really is in the minds of the committee. I guess I can't have it all.
I didn't think we were penalized at all--it was just a dumb set up that didn't allow us to be the 4 seed.
Alabama had beat Georgia--so it was splitting with them. Had BYU beat Texas Tech the first time I'm confident they'd be in.
I get what you're saying though--I would have had Texas in--I think teams should be rewarded for putting together the schedule they did
 

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Why are you still saying MNC when there’s no more “M” in it?
Because there is no real national championship in 1-A football; it is still mythical. The College Football Playoff isn’t an official championship. There is not an official sanctioned NCAA championship for 1-A football.

(yes, I know the technical designation is 1-FBS but that’s a stupid name)
 
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Matchups
12 James Madison at 5 Oregon (Texas Tech)--great draw for Oregon
9 Alabama at 8 Oklahoma (Indiana)--not ideal for Indiana

11 Tulane at 6 Ole Miss (Georgia)
10 Miami at 7 Texas A&M (Ohio State)--A&M/Ohio State would be great
If Tulane and James Madison got in, why didn't Duke get in?
 
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Gotta agree here. If the CCGs aren’t supposed to matter, stop scheduling them.

Conference championship games do matter… to determine who wins a conference.

(Well and to add revenue to the individual conferences)
 

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UGA behind tosu is laughable.
Agree. I thought it should have been
1) Indiana (only because of undefeated season)
2) UGA (Peaking at right time)
3) Ohio State (they better get their running game going. That is what sunk them last night)
4) Texas Tech (I think they have a legitimate shot)

One further note: glad Miami got in over ND. The head-to-head matters. ND needs to join a conference.
 
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Agree. I thought it should been
1) Indiana (only because of undefeated srason)
2) UGA (Peaking at right tome)
3) Ohio State (they better get their running game going. That is what sunk them last night)
4) Texas Tech (I think they have a legitimate shot)

One further note: glad Miami got in over ND. The head-to'head matters. ND needs to join a conference.
2-3 was interchangeable to me but I would have also done it your way
The good news is--they still meet in the semis if both win so it didn't really impact much. Plus, I'd argue Ohio State got the tougher path with A&M instead of Ole Miss
 
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Do you want to eliminate CCGs?
How is it fair to penalize them for plating an extra game?
Who did ND beat to earn a spot?

You don't need to eliminate them, but the entrance requirements should be standardized for P4 Conferences. All these P4 Conferences having differing tiebreakers is BS. P4 participants in CCGs should be determined by same tiebreaker - the two highest ranked Conference teams in the Penultimate CFP Rankings. Duke playing in the ACC CCG over Miami is ridiculous - it should have been Miami.
 

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You don't need to eliminate them, but the entrance requirements should be standardized for P4 Conferences. All these P4 Conferences having differing tiebreakers is BS. P4 participants in CCGs should be determined by same tiebreaker - the two highest ranked Conference teams in the Penultimate CFP Rankings. Duke playing in the ACC CCG over Miami is ridiculous - it should have been Miami.
We still have teams playing a 13th game while others like ND don't have any risk--it doesn't work
 

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I hate the first round rematches, just silly.

I would have switched Alabama (to #10) and Miami-FL (to #9) and also Ole Miss (to #7) and A&M (to #6). This would have been no less sensible and would have eliminated the rematches in the first round. Also, would avoid a likely second round rematch for Georgia (they played Ole Miss this year, but not A&M).
 

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I hate the first round rematches, just silly.

I would have switched Alabama (to #10) and Miami-FL (to #9) and also Ole Miss (to #7) and A&M (to #6). This would have been no less sensible and would have eliminated the rematches in the first round. Also, would avoid a likely second round rematch for Georgia (they played Ole Miss this year, but not A&M).
I like rematches--see Georgia/Bama in the SEC title game
Tulane's already played Ole Miss--let's hope they make adjustments.
OU/Bama is a great matchup even if they've already played.
I'm not saying you're wrong--I just disagree. There's no right or wrong.
 
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Bama also beat Georgia in Athens...does ND have a comparable win?
FSU is a top 30 power team so I agree it's an awful loss but the data doesn't support that
Ultimately CCGs need to be eliminated and the playoff needs to start sooner.
Just commenting Alabama peaked there and are now lost
 

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Just commenting Alabama peaked there and are now lost
I agree--it's just what do we use?
The argument for ND is the eye test--Bama has the better resume. They also beat Vandy which is better than anything on the ND resume.
I tink today will force change which makes me happy but the committee was screwed regardless of what they did
 

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They were never in--they were projected to be in if they won the title game--they didn't.
So you’re telling me that Virginia, ranked 19 in the final AP Poll with a loss, wouldn’t have made it in over Tulane, ranked 20?, if they had beaten Duke?
 

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So you’re telling me that Virginia, ranked 19 in the final AP Poll with a loss, wouldn’t have made it in over Tulane, ranked 20?, if they had beaten Duke?
Again, we're talking AQ bids. UVa, Tulane nor JMU are in without earning the auto spot like Georgia, Indiana and Texas Tech did.
The committee didn't punish them.
If you want to argue those games should be eliminate and we just put in the top 5 regular season champs that's fine but they aren't a conf champ
 
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I agree--it's just what do we use?
The argument for ND is the eye test--Bama has the better resume. They also beat Vandy which is better than anything on the ND resume.
I tink today will force change which makes me happy but the committee was screwed regardless of what they did

Given that 4 other SEC teams were ranked above Alabama..... and they looked laughably bad the last several weeks of the season - coachless and bad Auburn could have easily beat them (and the corrupt CFP hacks moved Alabama over ND last week after Alabama looked pitifully bad against Auburn..... then they move ND down again after they didn't even play??? Give me an f'ing break). Alabama does not belong in the Playoff as a 5th SEC team. They lost to OU and deserved to fall behind ND.... then they barely beat a hapless, coachless Auburn - who could have easily won that game, while ND was absolutely blowing out Stanford and they drop ND behind Alabama???? This system is corrupt and primarily controlled by SEC and b1g lackies and the last two weeks prove it dramatically. Just ridiculous that Bama was moved ahead of ND for looking pathetic against a really bad Auburn team (i.e., ND dropped for blowing out Stanford)... and then they drop ND for a second time this week while leaving Alabama at #9 for getting absolutely steam-rolled by UGa???????
 
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So you’re telling me that Virginia, ranked 19 in the final AP Poll with a loss, wouldn’t have made it in over Tulane, ranked 20?, if they had beaten Duke?

As per usual, he's full of crap - UVa was in with a win as it's the FIVE highest ranked Conference Champions even if Tulane got ranked in front of them somehow. Duke isn't going as the ACC Conference Champion because they are ranked behind JMU, not Tulane.
 

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Given that 4 other SEC teams were ranked above Alabama..... and they looked laughably bad the last several weeks of the season - coachless and bad Auburn could have easily beat them (and the corrupt CFP hacks moved Alabama over ND last week after Alabama looked pitifully bad against Auburn..... then they move ND down again after they didn't even play??? Give me an f'ing break). Alabama does not belong in the Playoff as a 5th SEC team. They lost to OU and deserved to fall behind ND.... then they barely beat a hapless, coachless Auburn - who could have easily won that game, while ND was absolutely blowing out Stanford and they drop ND behind Alabama???? This system is corrupt and primarily controlled by SEC and b1g lackies and the last two weeks prove it dramatically. Just ridiculous that Bama was moved ahead of ND for looking pathetic against a really bad Auburn team (i.e., ND dropped for blowing out Stanford)... and then they drop ND for a second time this week while leaving Alabama at #9 for getting absolutely steam-rolled by UGa???????
Auburn gave everyone a fight
Lost by 6 to A&M, 10 to Georgia, 7 to OU, 7 to Vandy and 7 to Bama--what are you talking about.
Indiana almost lost to a coachless/awful Penn State team--remember that?
You keep saying how bad Auburn is--they just couldn't finish--like the Bama game they were always competitive.
Please do some research or maybe watch more games.
 

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As per usual, he's full of crap - UVa was in with a win as it's the FIVE highest ranked Conference Champions even if Tulane got ranked in front of them somehow. Duke isn't going as the ACC Conference Champion because they are ranked behind JMU, not Tulane.
Which is what I said