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Wanted to go to the game tonight vs. Louisville FC (perfect weather), but we decided to go to Spring game/Keeneland. We'll go to a game soon.

Fantastic atmosphere in this game. Louisville brought a lot of fans - likely over 20k there. Both teams have great uniforms.


Was there tonight, great game, great weather, great atmosphere..... 20,500 in attendance.. Difference between the two teams is familiarity and chemistry... Many occasions for Cincy where one guy zigged when the other thought he was going to zag.. Louisville was almost always on the same page.. The PK was an awful call.... How the game was played it should've been a 2-2 draw..... Cincy has dozens of Chances with headers in front of goal.... Hit the post like 5 or 6 times.... Dacres (sp?) for Louisville is really friggin good.... So fast


 

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Lots of news about MLS expansion - seemingly every city wants a team. The owners of the Pistons and Cavs are teaming up to put a team in Detroit, still a top 10 market. St Louis is going all in as well. The MLS has nearly committed to Sacramento and San Antonio.

I think somehow Cincinnati is going to get left out. If you have to pick 2 from Detroit, St Louis, Indianapolis, Louisville, and Cincinnati - I think Cincinnati comes in 3rd.

But these upgrades are serious and Cincinnati will soon have one of the best soccer-stadiums available (even if it's shared), some of the wealthiest owners among its competitors, and a pretty rabid fan base.

I think we get over 20k again this weekend by the way.
 

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Of course Sean Whitaker is the worst sports fan imaginable, how are your Trojans looking this year? :rolleyes:
 
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Yeah, Louisville did beat FC Cincy... But it was largely due to them having been together for a year and a half. FC Cincy is made of MLS level talent...but just as in all sports, especially in soccer , chemistry is everything. Cincy is slowly starting to get on the same page with their attack and movement/build up play. They are also figuring out who works best with whom. It's a work in progress but when Cincy works it out they'll be really hard to handle.

The game at Louisville will look dramatically different in late July than the one at Cincy did.

I just think Cincy will buy their way into the MLS. And if they were to average pushing 20,000 this year and field a good team and their owners say " whatever you want money wise we will double it" I can't see MLS saying no...also can't see the city of Detroit getting a team with where that city is financially...
 

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The financial situation of the city of Detroit is pretty inconsequential, the metro area is still over twice the size of Cincy, has a similar unemployment rate, and a higher median income. Suburban Detroit counties are larger and wealthier than Cincys core county, and both are slow growth metros.
 
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Detroit is going to get a team. The ownership group they put together is the owner of the Pistons and the owner of the Cleveland Cavs.

They are planning on building a brand new stadium near their other sports stadiums.
 
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I know Louisville is planning a stadium. Cincinnati plays in UC's stadium which is much nicer than slugger field for soccer but how close are they to building a soccer specific stadium? I don't live in the area so I haven't been following.
 

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Can BigBlueSean confirm?
He's trying to get some spy photos, but it's a little windy...

 

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"FC Cincy is made of MLS level talent"........says BBS.

False.

I would agree that FC Cincy's roster talent-wise is superior to the level they are playing at now....but the statement above is a bit hyperbolic.
 

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The plan here is to use Nippert (UC's stadium) and not build their own stadium. Many other MLS teams do not play in their own stadium including Vancouver, Seattle, Toronto, New England, DC and currently Orlando City and NYCFC. The non-soccer stadiums have had the higher attendance recently so the thought is that it needs to be regulation size, grass, and with suites. FC Cincinnati recently paid for new turf and new locker rooms at Nippert and they're going to expand the field to be regulation size which will enable it to have international friendlies.

I once thought they needed a soccer-only stadium but I think the owners know what they need to do to get into the MLS and are doing everything possible.

My understanding is that Louisville is just beginning to do a feasibility study of a future stadium. Are there specific plans yet?
 
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"FC Cincy is made of MLS level talent"........says BBS.

False.

I would agree that FC Cincy's roster talent-wise is superior to the level they are playing at now....but the statement above is a bit hyperbolic.

There's some hyperbole, but that's how they're selling it here as well. Former MLS rookie of the year, someone with liek 50 caps on the Jamaican national team, numerous players that have scored in the MLS, etc. I don't know if their talent is significantly superior to most of the league, but they did spend a lot.
 

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There's some hyperbole, but that's how they're selling it here as well. Former MLS rookie of the year, someone with liek 50 caps on the Jamaican national team, numerous players that have scored in the MLS, etc. I don't know if their talent is significantly superior to most of the league, but they did spend a lot.


I get that and agree. My only point is that while they may have isolated players, to imply that the team as a whole is MLS level now, I don't see it. I am glad they are here though and plan on going to some games.
 

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* FCC has at least 10 players with MLS experience. If the attendance/enthusiasm remains, they will aggressively try to improve their talent.

* They are interested in eventually building their own stadium. The current deal at Nippert runs thru 2018.

Nippert could be fine, though. It has the perfect capacity and just underwent similar renovations as UK, with the addition of luxury boxes, etc.
 

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As with everything in Cincy, how long will the suburbanite fans now living in the city support a team?
 
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Just saw where they have confirmed the pre-sale of 20,000 tickets for the game against Pittsburgh this weekend.... Trying to get 30,000+.... I bet they do it.
 

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If they can get a good turnout for most of the season (avg. 10,000) I think they'll jump into the MLS discussion in a big way. If anyone truly thinks MLS is stopping expansion at 28, they obviously weren't paying attention when they were stopping expansion at 20 or 24. We have four other wildly successful big sports leagues with 30-32 teams and I think MLS will head in that direction.
 

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Well they've supported the other local teams pretty well so....
It depends and for how long? Have you seen the crowds at Reds games this year? The Bengals have been to the playoffs 5 years in-a-row and can't sellout but a couple games per year. UC sports teams have routinely cried about attendance.

The NBA left in the 70's. Soccer and minor league hockey has come and gone with mixed attendance results form the Cyclones. They cover the upper deck now since those hockey seats won't sell.
 

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Attendance has been great at Bengals games and UC games. It hasn't for the Reds, but there are 80 games and everyone knows it's a transition year. That doesn't mean that the community won't support a team.

Went to my first game yesterday, over 23k there, another USL record despite it being in the upper 40s and windy. Not a bad seat in the stadium.

Pretty impressive what they've done there. Merchandise tents had incredibly long lines the entire game. The fan supporters groups were outstanding, cheering and singing the entire game. Tons of students and families there. Tailgating. They play Indy this week in the US Open Cup.
 
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Attendance has been great at Bengals games and UC games. It hasn't for the Reds, but there are 80 games and everyone knows it's a transition year. That doesn't mean that the community won't support a team.

Went to my first game yesterday, over 23k there, another USL record despite it being in the upper 40s and windy. Not a bad seat in the stadium.

Pretty impressive what they've done there. Merchandise tents had incredibly long lines the entire game. The fan supporters groups were outstanding, cheering and singing the entire game. Tons of students and families there. Tailgating. They play Indy this week in the US Open Cup.

Whatbi like is literally every demographic is represented....its not heavy college kids or anything like that. Firmly believe they will get 30,000 before the end of the season.
 

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I think Cincy's biggest issue in getting a MLS team is the closeness of Columbus & splitting up soccer fan bases. Imo, best case would be to buy out Columbus & move it.
 

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I think they do. It's called $$$. They don't care about geographic rivalries imo.

Yes they do. MLS has had great success with the Portland/Seattle/Vancouver rivalries and the proximity to Columbus is actually considered a positive by MLS.

Almost zero fans at the FCC games come from Cbus.
 

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Attendance has been great at Bengals games and UC games. It hasn't for the Reds, but there are 80 games and everyone knows it's a transition year. That doesn't mean that the community won't support a team.
I simply asked how long will they support soccer?

I am a Bengals season ticket holder and have attended or watched UC games for years. Great attendance is certainly not true or at best it depends on the opponent. The Reds will draw better on summer weekends but sitting in the lower level is usually a not problem during the week or before school's out. At best, there has to be a bobblehead giveaway or event to get anywhere near a sellout after opening day. Just a handful of Reds games are sold out in any given year. The Reds play 81 home games every year.

The NFL suspended their blackout policy in 2015 but Bengals attendance has been mixed for every game but Pittsburgh for years. The last time they had a long streak of sellouts was in Riverfront Stadium after the last Super Bowl appearance in 1989.
 

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Bengals attendance has been very, very good for the last 6+ years.

None of that matters because the FC Cincy crowd is a whole different group of people. There is a sizable young, soccer crazed portion of the population in Greater Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky that this caters to perfectly.

This is a situation of right time, right place and I only see it growing with the money and marketing being put behind it.

The Reds rebuilding can't hurt, either.