Over/under on how long this clown show will last at Colorado?
FC/OT: Deion Sanders meets team, tells them to hit portal….
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One big carefrontation: Deion is just being efficient with his time.
I don't think he had the other major offers he was rumored for. CU is a crap job. It's like Nebraska with 3% of the tradition. Sounds like he's talking the talk of culture change. If I had heard that sound byte without the heading, I don't interpret it as "you guys suck, hit the bricks", but moreso "the losing culture here sucks and we gonna work, if you aren't smart and tough, there's the portal".
I didn't see a problem with it. It seemed like the typical new coach trying to send a message that BS won't be tolerated. It'll motivate some and chase away others. IIRC, Bielema did something similar when he arrived at Illinois.
So Deion doesn’t lead with love? 
He did well at a program where he could win just by bringing in superior talent. That won't happen at Colorado. It will probably take Colorado a few years to figure that out.
This will be a tuff grind....he can give all the pep talk-man-up speeches--transparency talk etc all he wants. He needs Players and a staff to run with. It will take time, I am not sure Prime is patient enough....it was much easier to do what he did with JSU. I think he can get Colorado 4-5 wins next year maybe--but will take few years and some luck with recruiting to get them respectable. Hope he does as it will be a nice story and it doesn't effect us.
That's all college football is: bringing in superior talent and winning.
How many titles did Saban have at Sparty?
Why did he only win 1 at LSU?
Why does he have titles in 46% or so of his Bama seasons?
That is the name of the game now. Coaching doesn’t matter if the other team has significantly greater talent. Got to have the “Jimmies and the Joes” now. DuhO$U has had top 5 recruiting classes nearly every year for at least the past 5 years and probably longer starting with Meyer’s tenure. When teams like O$U have more bigger and faster players in the starting lineup, it is very difficult to overcome. With NIL, the reality is having the best team money can buy.
This guy is a sideshow. If I was a donor at CU, they wouldn't be seeing any of my cash.
It is not college football anymore...it is NFL-Lite
It's worse than NFL-Lite. At least the NFL has a salary cap and a draft.
LOL, according the their AD they aren't...
https://www.si.com/college/2022/12/05/colorado-ad-deion-sanders-contract-money
"“We don’t have the money yet, but I know we’ll have it so I’m not worried about that piece,” George said when asked about Sanders’s contract on Sunday."LOL, according the their AD they aren't...
https://www.si.com/college/2022/12/05/colorado-ad-deion-sanders-contract-money
You'll have the usual split between folks who think this is just tough love ... Colorado sucks so they need the wake up call ... Deion is an awesome winner and demands excellence, etc.
And folks who think this was silly and over-the-top.
I'm in the latter camp. You can send a message that the team has underperformed, and it's time to step it up, in a much less offensive way. You can demand more of players in a way that let's them know not giving 100% will not be tolerated, while also telling them that you have their back and your job is to coach them and push them to help them along the way. You can even let them know that competition is coming without essentially showing them the door.
But this was all about Deion. I. Me. It came across as telling the kids they're in the way of his awesomeness, so they need to go.
But if he wins, he'll have plenty of folks copying his style. Or trying to.
I never said it wasn't.
My point is that Sanders will not have superior talent at Colorado. The talent level will improve, but it will not be on the level of schools like Alabama, USC or Oregon.
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Its going to have to improve 10 fold to even be on the level of Arizona or Cal, let alone Bama, USC or Oregon. They (CU) are a mess. I'm not sure even a massive portal effort can fix them for the next 2 years.
It's a package deal with him and son at QB. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, which might be entertaining to watch from afar.
I like your take. Just like this board.It's a package deal with him and son at QB. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, which might be entertaining to watch from afar.
Neon Dion always was a big talker, but he backed it up on the field (except for actually tackling people). If he makes his Colorado gig successful we’re going to see many imitators of his style in coaching. And won’t that just be a barrel of fun!
CU needed to do something bold if they want their program to be relevant. They were never going to get some great X and O's guy with a great resume. I'm not discounting DS. He will attract talent. Let's give him 3 years before we judge. CU is currently a disaster; he can't do much more harm.
Thats exactly what I was thinking as well...It's a package deal with him and son at QB. Sounds like a recipe for disaster, which might be entertaining to watch from afar.
I like your take. Just like this board.
I am not a fan of Deion but the cachet of playing for Deion will bring in plenty of talent. My question is can Deion actually coach? He has had superior talent to every team he played the previous two years and has done well. What can he do personally as a coach though to get them to the top? If he can get some former NFL guys to help coach and with USC leaving the Pac12 is ripe for CU to take off. We'll see what kind of QB he can get to take over after his son, if he can get a top flight QB recruit, he may be able to do this faster than most think
I’m waiting for the first time he publicly bitches that the team tackling is poor. He’ll have a hard sell trying to insist his team do something he pretty much refused to do as a player.
Nothing builds team chemistry and unity like telling your new team in the (presumed) first meeting that you’re bringing in you own players and the more of them that hit the portal the better for his plans.
It reminds me of a couple of the plant managers they hired where I work. They came in all hot and telling us what they were going to do and that if we didn't like it there was the door. Most of us are still here, they on the other hand, are long gone.Nothing builds team chemistry and unity like telling your new team in the (presumed) first meeting that you’re bringing in you own players and the more of them that hit the portal the better for his plans.
I see your point about it being about Deion. In fact, it reminded me of a modernized version of Charlie Weis touting his “schematic advantage”. To various degrees inflated egos and head coaches go hand in hand. However, the giant egos that can’t come to grips with the fact that some other team was simply better and gasp…better prepared will rarely, if ever, take responsibility. This could easily blow up and be a train wreck. And his son is going to be the QB?
Louis Vuitton is the official brand of clowns. He probably drives a Porsche, too.
The fact of the matter is you can add Boulder and the University of Colorado to the growing list of cool places out west that care less each and every day about football and most sports in general.
Seems to follow the USC model of cleaning house bringing in his favorites and offering marquee portal players. The thing that hurts is players that really bust their butt as backups now feel bumped down a step.
In the SC - Utah game the players seemed to be detached, having a qb half healthy with a hammy insisting he play instead of an able backup , and a defense that wasn't into tackling shows the down side of the splash coach hire.
Plus these aren't Hollywood boosters in Boulder. The head scratcher for me as a CFB fan, is why didn't Auburn, GT, South Florida or any of the southern based schools scoop Prime up.
In the SC - Utah game the players seemed to be detached, having a qb half healthy with a hammy insisting he play instead of an able backup , and a defense that wasn't into tackling shows the down side of the splash coach hire.
Plus these aren't Hollywood boosters in Boulder. The head scratcher for me as a CFB fan, is why didn't Auburn, GT, South Florida or any of the southern based schools scoop Prime up.
Good Luck to Prime Time.... Playing Utah, USC, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington you better believe those coaches will want to put a beat down on Colorado points wise to show recruits who the boss is in that league. The days of playing and whooping up on Texas Southern are over... we are going to how good a coach he is....
Based on what? As we now see with A&M and Miami and others. Having the talent is wonderful, but at some point, you actually have to coach them.
Clown show will do just fine, give him a couple seasons to recruit and look out.