FC: Prez Bendapudi announces that campus closures are forthcoming

doctornick

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Some of those enrollments wouldn’t even sustain a coffee shop, let alone a branch campus staff and infrastructure.

That's the thing that is crazy to me. My high school class (not the number of kids at the entire high school) was around 750 students - I cannot even imagine going to a college that only has 500 or so students total. I feel like at a minimum that has to severely limit the course offerings which seems like it would be a problem for students wanting to end up at UP if they haven't taken all the lower level courses they need.
 
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Nice, but that location will be a hike to the west campus for engineering majors.
The Blue and White Loops run right past there. Maybe CATA can also modify the route for the Red Link which has a couple stops in the west campus.
 

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Fall 2025 tuition payment:

 

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That's the thing that is crazy to me. My high school class (not the number of kids at the entire high school) was around 750 students - I cannot even imagine going to a college that only has 500 or so students total. I feel like at a minimum that has to severely limit the course offerings which seems like it would be a problem for students wanting to end up at UP if they haven't taken all the lower level courses they need.
Or at a minimum, severely limit the quality of gen ed courses at small branch campuses. That sets students up for failure when they arrive at UP and might even lead to forms of indirect discrimination on who is allowed to transfer to UP.
 
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Or at a minimum, severely limit the quality of gen ed courses at small branch campuses. That sets students up for failure when they arrive at UP and might even lead to forms of indirect discrimination on who is allowed to transfer to UP.
Back in the 80's, students would declare Phys Ed majors at Altoona because it would get you to UP after one year, then you simply changed your major.
 

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I though I also heard thru the grapevine that they want to expand the number of freshman they accept at University Park. This would also reduce the number that end up at branch campuses. Back in the day(80s), students would just apply to the branch campus because getting into University Park was very competitive which I think why some started at branch campuses. They wanted to go to PSU but didn't have the grades/creds to get accepted at University Park and we wanted to work out way there by junior year.
I had the grades, but it was better for me to spend my first two years at Ogontz. Plus I ended up getting a scholarship at Ogontz, which paid for my first year and much of my second, so I started at UP without any debt. My sister did the same (though it took her 5 years, plus two breaks). My younger brother went directly to UP--but by that point I was in grad school which covered everything for me.
 

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Of the student populations available for college -- the PA Legislature will not accept the fact that PA overall population is declining. AND they will not close any of the PA State Supported Colleges (Kutztown, etc.) or combine with Penn State for less costs for the student's education.

Too many Commonweath campuses and too many PA State 'colleges' and not enough students to fill all of the classrooms or pay the overhead. There are several geographic areas where campus combinations could help Penn State and PA - unfortunately, I do not think an agreement will be had.
 

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Updated timeline:

Do you kick the can down the road to mid May so that students aren’t at the branches to protest ?
 
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“Data around commonwealth campuses show Penn State loses roughly $40 million to $50 million annually to operate them, or 0.4% of its $10 billion budget, the letter said.”

Also, it appears Horne doesn’t like Bendapudi, but I thought this was interesting:

 
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RIP Penn State Beaver. But, thank god they're pouring billions of dollars into athletic facilities. Gonna really help you know?

It helps with the resale value, like the homeowner remodeling a bathroom just before selling.

Neeli’s got this.
 
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We need a dyke!

 
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We need a dyke!


Awww poor babies... you mean somone leaked the BOT info to the media. The BOT doesn't like it now that the shoe is on the other foot and people railing against them. Hopefully this is just the start of reaping what they sow...
 
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Awww poor babies... you mean somone leaked the BOT to the media. The BOT doesn't like it now that the shoe is on the other foot and people railing against them. Hopefully this is just the start of reaping what they sow...


 

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PSU Mike

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We need a dyke!

I’m sure this will force them to re-examine the type of people they allow on the Board.
 

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Lot's of meeting for campuses losing 40 to 50 million a year, should have been shut down years ago.
 
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Lot's of meeting for campuses losing 40 to 50 million a year, should have been shut down years ago.

Yeah, I don't really see how this is somehow a questionable issue. I mean, the biggest "problem" is state legislators complaining about losing a campus in their area and the money it adds to the economy but the reality is that the existence of so many of these campuses is an anachronism from a different time - which is why they are having ever declining enrollments. It's crazy that they have had so many campuses running with only 300-400 students, which is smaller than most public high schools.

World Campus provides a convenient option for those not commutable to an open campus. And a bunch of the campuses staying open have housing if someone wants a residential experience but not the size of UP. Hopefully Greater Allegany will pick up students from New Kensington and Fayette to help increase its viability. Same with Scranton (and I guess Hazleton) potentially getting some students that would otherwise have gone to Wilkes-Barre.

I am curious to see what will happen with the campuses - ideally, they can be passed on to the state or counties and made into Community Colleges or technical schools to service the local populations. If that doesn't happen then it just further reinforce the question as to how viable these are as educational locations anyway and justify the closures.
 

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The leak I heard was that it was 7 campuses; Dubois, Shenango, Fayette, New Kensington, Mont Alto, York and Wilkes Barre.
 

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I am curious to see what will happen with the campuses - ideally, they can be passed on to the state or counties and made into Community Colleges or technical schools to service the local populations. If that doesn't happen then it just further reinforce the question as to how viable these are as educational locations anyway and justify the closures.
I live near DuBois and this would be an excellent option if the campus does in fact close. A few years ago DuBois Business College closed. And just a couple weeks ago Triangle Tech (with a location near DuBois) closed up shop. Both were places where local people could receive vocational training without having to move. Maybe local leaders can find a way to bring many of those programs back and put them under one community college roof.
 

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The leak is a false flag event carried out by the same people who are leading the charge to close the campuses

Putting the information out like they did gives people the chance to be outraged and then things will settle down by the time of the vote

FWIW, I believe these campuses, and probably others, need to be closed. It was inevitable once online learning became viable, the only real question was timing
 
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More leaks:

The seven Pennsylvania State University campuses recommended for closure face declines in enrollment and finances, low student housing occupancy, and a significant backlog in maintenance, according to a 143-page report obtained by The Inquirer.

And things aren’t expected to get any better with declines in population on the horizon, said the report from a committee appointed by Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi to study the potential closure of 12 of 20 Commonwealth campuses and make recommendations.

“The projected low enrollments pose challenges for creating the kind of robust on-campus student experience that is consistent with the Penn State brand,” said the report, which recommended the closure of the DuBois, Fayette, Mont Alto, New Kensington, York, Wilkes-Barre, and Shenango campuses. “Keeping them open would require an estimated $19 million in annual financial support, $21 million in annual overhead expense, and more than $200 million in future facilities investment — resources that could be redirected to enhance and strengthen the campuses that remain.”

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More leaks:

The seven Pennsylvania State University campuses recommended for closure face declines in enrollment and finances, low student housing occupancy, and a significant backlog in maintenance, according to a 143-page report obtained by The Inquirer.

And things aren’t expected to get any better with declines in population on the horizon, said the report from a committee appointed by Penn State President Neeli Bendapudi to study the potential closure of 12 of 20 Commonwealth campuses and make recommendations.

“The projected low enrollments pose challenges for creating the kind of robust on-campus student experience that is consistent with the Penn State brand,” said the report, which recommended the closure of the DuBois, Fayette, Mont Alto, New Kensington, York, Wilkes-Barre, and Shenango campuses. “Keeping them open would require an estimated $19 million in annual financial support, $21 million in annual overhead expense, and more than $200 million in future facilities investment — resources that could be redirected to enhance and strengthen the campuses that remain.”

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PSU Mike

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Too lazy to read. Does Penn State own all the land and structures? Is there an estimate of the aggregate liquidation value of the Sayonara Seven?

I kinda wonder(ed) whether York College, under 2 miles from York, will(would) pick up any of the campus.
 
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