I've always complained about the filler material. I don't need a whole episode devoted to learning about an individual character. They can have short conversations about their previous lives before the zombie apocalypse to take care of anything I want to know. I just want more stuff like the "everybody ate Chris" episode.
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And Better Call Saul previously held the record. The Walking Dead series premiere is 5th all-time. AMC does one hell of a job of getting people to watch series premieres.
Kirkman and crew have stated that none of the origins of the virus won't be revealed. Not how everyone got it, not when the outbreak has started (although a strong theory of 2012 has popped up based on details from the FTWD premiere), not why it just all of a sudden started, etc. Probably because he never really considered it, my guess.
Exactly, if all you want is a bunch of zombies and humans killing each other, watch a movie, that's what that kind of plot is good for. You can't carry a series on nothing but killing people, that's just idiocy.
Yeah, and that plot line works when your given around 2 hours or less. Not when it's an entire series that already has a second season order. Hardly anyone is going to watch the show when a few episodes when week after week it's just the same thing over and over again, zombies killing humans, humans killing zombies, and perhaps even some humans killing humans.
I thought it was great - it's amazing how many people watch this and TWD (and other shows) and just hate it. I enjoyed the character development and the plot. I like the characters. I guess some of you only want to see humans fighting zombies for 60 minutes each week?
Go play video games.
Go play video games.
I didn't say that it needs to be 100% nonstop zombies. I just think people would enjoy it much more if you make it more about the zombies than they currently are. When most of the episodes have only like 10% or less time with zombies on there (just throwing that number out there) it just lowers the enjoyment level for many fans. If they could at least make it 50/50 with zombies to human drama, I think it would be much better.
Do people watch vampire shows to see how the humans are surviving in that world for 90% of the time? How about alien shows? I watch Falling Skies and there is a lot of drama between the people as well, but they also spend more time incorporating the aliens into the show. When they don't show the aliens they still are talking about how they are going to deal with the problem. TWD, at times, treats the zombies as an afterthought. I just want a little more entertainment value in shows I watch. There are plenty of dramas on TV that I can watch, but I want to see a horror show.
You're watching the wrong show then. And yes, that's how I and a lot of people watch and enjoy these types of shows.
How to eliminate zombies:
- Create large concrete border with high walls. Construct this area in a remote area with very little population.
- Inside of large border, use mining equipment to dig very large, very deep hole.
- Use audio equipment to make very loud noises that attract zombies. Have small tactical teams place the audio markers on a route from populated areas to the secured border.
- Make small opening in large border.
- Put speaker along the walls of large hole.
- Create inferno at bottom of hole.
- Filter zombies into burning inferno.
- Profit.
I would look to agriculture. Pretty sure an armored corn harvester set at 5 ft high would be able to handle a zombie herd
I think that'd be an excellent vehicle, but for disposing of millions of zombies, I think we need to think bigger.
THIS!!! You can't have it both ways. If there were no character development, then the show would get boring quick because you wouldn't care who lived or died. Take Z Nation for example, the show is horrible, and not just because of the bad CG and bad acting. It's written horribly too and there is very little character development and it makes for a pointless show, which is why it is on the bottom of the ratings pool.
One of the best things about The Walking Dead (aside from Greg Nicotero's AMAZING makeup FX work) is that you genuinely care about the characters on the show and want to see them survive, even desperately so (as in Darryl's case where people have claimed they would riot or quit watching all together if he is killed off). The show couldn't be as popular if not for this.
Yep. This is one of the few properties AMC actually owns. They have a cash cow in TWD, and theyre milking it for all its worth even though its destroyed the show. While slightly better, this show is just more of the same.
Why don't they just create a show in this universe based around short stories of various individuals around the country/world? They wouldn't have to be full seasons as they could be anywhere from 1-4 episodes (or however many). For instance you could have stories such as:
- A police chief as ish goes down in NYC.
- Following a survivalist in Montana who swore to everyone something like this would happen.
- Crewman on a Navy destroyer trying to make it back to port months after the outbreak.
- Some elected official high up in the executive branch who is around as everything falls apart and their decision making process after.
- Etc.
These are just rudimentary examples but you'd have an almost unlimited supply of stories to work with. Any characters people found annoying would be gone in one way or the other within a few episodes. You could even tie some of these stories together long term if you wanted. Personally, I am more interested in how different characters in society dealt/deals with the outbreak than I am with the character development of a family. The episode was OK, but you can already see it heading down the same played out story lines as seen in TWD.
- A police chief as ish goes down in NYC.
- Following a survivalist in Montana who swore to everyone something like this would happen.
- Crewman on a Navy destroyer trying to make it back to port months after the outbreak.
- Some elected official high up in the executive branch who is around as everything falls apart and their decision making process after.
- Etc.
These are just rudimentary examples but you'd have an almost unlimited supply of stories to work with. Any characters people found annoying would be gone in one way or the other within a few episodes. You could even tie some of these stories together long term if you wanted. Personally, I am more interested in how different characters in society dealt/deals with the outbreak than I am with the character development of a family. The episode was OK, but you can already see it heading down the same played out story lines as seen in TWD.
Anyone that is expecting this show to be about zombies should just stop watching now. Let those of us that actually enjoy the show discuss it.
I have no idea what people are bitching about. I thought the show was fine for a first episode. Hopefully all of the whiners won't watch it anymore.
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If really is odd how so many people watch this and the walking dead and know how it's going to go, yet keep on watching just so they can come on here and be part of the conversation. If you don't enjoy the show, why keep helping the show make bank by watching?
Ive accepted this is nothing more than TWD west coast edition. Not sure how they are going to tie the two together or If they will eventually drop one or the other. OTOH, It would be nice If one was airing while the other was filming so there wouldnt be such a gap in TWD. As far as characters, I like the Tobias kid. He reminds me of Darryl for some reason.
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Was hoping for at least a little bit more of an increase in action, but it was another let down. Now they will make us wait two weeks until the next episode. Would have liked something a bit bigger to have happened to hold us over until then. I don't know why I keep watching these shows when they refuse to do what I want. I guess it is the hope that they will change things up some and I don't want to miss it.
Was hoping for at least a little bit more of an increase in action, but it was another let down. Now they will make us wait two weeks until the next episode. Would have liked something a bit bigger to have happened to hold us over until then. I don't know why I keep watching these shows when they refuse to do what I want. I guess it is the hope that they will change things up some and I don't want to miss it.
As others have pointed out, this is clearly following the new TWD $$$ model: tease something awesome. Have boring nonsense through 90% of the show. Have a small bit of plot movement/action towards the end of the episode. Continue until people someday quit watching.
I thought with the initial breakout, etc, the show would almost be forced to have some action; even if against its will. Wrong. For example, theres an entire zombie vs human battle going on outside the shop and we get stuck with the inane, useless conversation between the 2 families.
Oh and that crackhead kid cant die soon enough.
I thought with the initial breakout, etc, the show would almost be forced to have some action; even if against its will. Wrong. For example, theres an entire zombie vs human battle going on outside the shop and we get stuck with the inane, useless conversation between the 2 families.
Oh and that crackhead kid cant die soon enough.
That is pretty much how the book World War Z is set up. And it was terrific.
this is how the novel world war z actually does it. unlike the movie, which best i could tell had nothing the book offered (and couldn't hardly the way it was written).
The problem with people and FTWD is that fans of TWD are already well aware of the world they live in, unlike the characters of FTWD who still don't know what is going on - for once, the viewers have a leg up on the people in the story. That, is also a problem because we are wanting more action, but because they need to develop the characters of the show in a world where the ZA hasn't fully happened yet, people are getting antsy because they want to see more than the standard fare, but that is unfortunately what we are going to have to deal with as this world evolves and we begin to see more and more of the TWD world begin to to take shape.
Just give the show the time it needs to take off. I believe that before too long, FTWD will be just as popular with fans as the original show is.
Just give the show the time it needs to take off. I believe that before too long, FTWD will be just as popular with fans as the original show is.
The way they will milk this out, they probably already have about 3 seasons worth of material before we get the full blown apocalypse. They probably are going to just do a 6 episode trial and once they see the ratings, they will start it back up when TWD is on break. They probably don't want the two shows competing for ratings.
Season one of Fear TWD is supposed to end right about the same time as TWD starts out.
So does this show just suck or what? I've watched the first two episodes and have the rest to date on DVR. Looks promising, but I don't have my hopes up if no one is talking about it.
It's a slow shot to start out. Picked up a bit in the 5th episode and the 6th episode seems like it has pretty strong potential.
I was pretty critical of the first few episodes but the 5th episode picked up some. The last episode has potential. Still no where near as good as TWD but ok to watch while TWD is filming.
It has been pretty crappy so far. What has there been 1 zombie over the last two episodes and probably less than 10 total over 5 episodes? I just think they should have had more action to start to lure us in and then they could do some minor flashbacks to fill in some of the backstories, if that is the direction they wanted to go. It worked for TWD.
I just think they could have built up to the outbreak over like 2 or 3 episodes and then all hell breaks loose. Hardly anyone I know that watches this show even really talks about it like they do for TWD. There is so much potential in this show, but I think they are blowing it.
I just think they could have built up to the outbreak over like 2 or 3 episodes and then all hell breaks loose. Hardly anyone I know that watches this show even really talks about it like they do for TWD. There is so much potential in this show, but I think they are blowing it.
I think it has been just OK so far. I will continue watching since I knew that the timeline they're on is at the very beginning of the outbreak. Should get far more intense in the second season.
The doper needs to get stoned, sexually assault a hot zombie then get mobbed and enjoy being eaten alive. At least he would be interesting for a few minutes then off the show. Maybe come back after some other cast members. He would be better as a zombie.