Film Break Down and Jibber Jabber

[saddawg]

I went back into old coach mode and broke down our offensive film on M2M.

Roughly 80% of our offense came out of the shotgun.

What happened to getting in the I and smashing it in there? I thought if we couldn't do that we just weren't gonna win.

Dixon's long run, while blocked decent is a 10 to 15 yd gain against an SEC defense.

2 of the 3rd and shorts are stuffed against an SEC defense.

We had 1 pass thrown for more than 15 yds down the field. We completed that one, however the CB was slow on his break.

When we went to the I and ran the inside zone, well, we don't block too good.

MTSU got a good push up front all night. Bama will look like they are running free. Pray for Tyson Lee.

I thought the 1st drive was the best sets, calls and scheme we have done all year. Of course we abandoned that once we went up 14-3. Didn't go that way again until. we fell behind. After which we started moving the ball again.

Now for the weekly Jibber Jabber.........

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Croom on QB Tyson Lee, who had 46 yards and a TD rushing: "I think his ability to make some runs off of the keeps early, I'm sure it surprised them, because they hadn't seen him do that. We felt like the way people are playing us that we have to be able to do that, spread people out more than we've done."

</span>No **** Croom, only took 7 games to figure this out? A complete contradiction from what he said after Vandy.

The man is clueless..........
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This next crap makes no sense at all.......... the man thinks everybody but him is an idiot. BTW we didn't do much of **** when we went 2 tight.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">"It was just a little bit of a chess match, that's why we got in a little bit of a slump there in the second quarter. They were stopping the things we did early. Our flare screen we ran to (Arnil) Stallworth, we hit them on that a couple of times. We had another one in for Arceto (Clark), but after they sort of nailed that one, the third one, we thought we'd stay away from that. Even on the sweep we ran with him, previously, that edge had been, there was nobody over there, but they got smart and they changed that up. Some other things we had for him, the way they played the slot when he was in the slot, they totally changed up the way they played that. It took some of the things we saw in their games, previous, all season, they took them away in this ballgame so we veered away. We had to make some adjustments. Got in two tight ends and was able to make a couple of plays there that helped us. It was a little bit of mixing and matching when they countered, we countered."</span> <br style="font-weight: bold;"> <br style="font-weight: bold;">

 

[saddawg]

I went back into old coach mode and broke down our offensive film on M2M.

Roughly 80% of our offense came out of the shotgun.

What happened to getting in the I and smashing it in there? I thought if we couldn't do that we just weren't gonna win.

Dixon's long run, while blocked decent is a 10 to 15 yd gain against an SEC defense.

2 of the 3rd and shorts are stuffed against an SEC defense.

We had 1 pass thrown for more than 15 yds down the field. We completed that one, however the CB was slow on his break.

When we went to the I and ran the inside zone, well, we don't block too good.

MTSU got a good push up front all night. Bama will look like they are running free. Pray for Tyson Lee.

I thought the 1st drive was the best sets, calls and scheme we have done all year. Of course we abandoned that once we went up 14-3. Didn't go that way again until. we fell behind. After which we started moving the ball again.

Now for the weekly Jibber Jabber.........

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Croom on QB Tyson Lee, who had 46 yards and a TD rushing: "I think his ability to make some runs off of the keeps early, I'm sure it surprised them, because they hadn't seen him do that. We felt like the way people are playing us that we have to be able to do that, spread people out more than we've done."

</span>No **** Croom, only took 7 games to figure this out? A complete contradiction from what he said after Vandy.

The man is clueless..........
<br style="font-weight: bold;">
This next crap makes no sense at all.......... the man thinks everybody but him is an idiot. BTW we didn't do much of **** when we went 2 tight.

<span style="font-weight: bold;">"It was just a little bit of a chess match, that's why we got in a little bit of a slump there in the second quarter. They were stopping the things we did early. Our flare screen we ran to (Arnil) Stallworth, we hit them on that a couple of times. We had another one in for Arceto (Clark), but after they sort of nailed that one, the third one, we thought we'd stay away from that. Even on the sweep we ran with him, previously, that edge had been, there was nobody over there, but they got smart and they changed that up. Some other things we had for him, the way they played the slot when he was in the slot, they totally changed up the way they played that. It took some of the things we saw in their games, previous, all season, they took them away in this ballgame so we veered away. We had to make some adjustments. Got in two tight ends and was able to make a couple of plays there that helped us. It was a little bit of mixing and matching when they countered, we countered."</span> <br style="font-weight: bold;"> <br style="font-weight: bold;">

 

[Coach34]

direct from your man Crooms-

"We felt like the way people are playing us that we have to be able to do that, spread people out more than we've done."

Spread people out? Whattttttttt? Seems like you guys have heard that somewhere repeatedly over the last year.

 

[FlabLoser]

I thought the 1st drive was the best sets, calls and scheme we have done all year. Of course we abandoned that once we went up 14-3.

I have felt that way about most of our games going back a few years. It is painfully obvious that Croom & company aren't half bad in scripting the beginning of a ball game. After that, decision-making, adjustments, and scheming on the fly are required. Our in-game coaching is pathetic.

 

[skip dog]

Is a picture, posted by saddawg, of some cute girls, in small bikinis, playing w/ a fish.

They look so happy, & cold, but still happy

it's time

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[ShrubDog]

1. I-formation up the middle.
2. Shotgun draw.
3. Bootlegg 2 yard pass.
4. 2 yard flare.

Why dont we ever throw quick slants, posts or anything else just baffles me.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

slo-mo on my DVR with a interest in our OL play. On the play in the 1st qtr where MTSU was penalized for a late hit out of bounds on Lee, it looked like the line was executing a different play than the skilled players and Lee was on his own. The tight end missed his block (a very weak effort I might add) on the DE and never left the LOS or looked back to see if his QB needed help. Meanwhile, the DE and two other defenders were chasing Lee in the backfield and down the sidelines. This plus several other plays showed poor execution and lack of second effort on the part of several players. Through the years, I have seen this kind of execution all to many times and I think this is a microcosm of our program, not enough SEC quality players to compete on a championship level. With the exception of a few years, such as 1998 - 2000, this has been the hallmark of State teams. Under Croom this aspect of the program is even more pronounced with poor on-field coaching and tactics.

I agree with the majority on this board that Croom is not the answer, I also not sure if there is an answer or are we doomed because of geography, economics and history to continue to repeat the same sad song over and over.

Saddawg....the girl in the middle is a goddess!

 

[ArrowDawg]

What happened to getting in the I and smashing it in there? I thought if we couldn't do that we just weren't gonna win.

Well, in case anyone hasn't noticed, Crxxm is a freaking liar. He lies all the time, and he thinks people's memories are short enough that they won't remember what he said about something a week, two weeks, or a few months prior. It's just like how he said he won't fire McCorvey and that he'd fire himself first, but we all know damn well he's going to shitcan Woody to save his own $1.7 mil *** after this season and the excuse given will be something like "health" to cover it up.

 

[bonedaddy401]

is saddawgs pictures. The only thing......

 

[dawgoneyall]

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[DovaDawg]

I noticed two glaring problems on D last night:

- MTSU lines up a WR to the right with O'Quinn covering. The WR streaks up the sideline and the QB rolls to the right. O'Quinn leaves the WR to play the potential QB scramble. Zone was always late picking up the WR. Result: QB dumps it over O'Quinn for big gain.

- MTSU lines up 3 receives to the left we only have 2 defenders covering. 2 receivers streak up field taking the defenders, the other curls underneath and is wide open. This was usually done in short yardage situations for a first down.

 

[saddawg]

against our usual D.

By going trips, with us in mainly a cover 4 most of the night, that essentially makes the weak side cover man to man.

Only thing I couldn't figure out what Cheese was trying to do was.....

They put their back to the trips side most of the night. Our backside end was rushing inside shoulder most of the night, thereby losing contain a good bit. That would be fine if we had had a walk to that side with a LB, but we really couldn't do that because the back was set up to run the inside play that way. I couldn't figure out why the end was rushing that way,especially on 3rd and long.

Cheese,like Ellis, has shown to like the zone. Rarely comes after the Qb with more than 5 at the most. Probably a good idea with the CB's we have, but we do seem to lose contain a good bit.

Like Croom's dumbass quote above about them playing our slots different. Hey Croom, recognize that and adjust formations to take them out of what they are trying to do.

 

[hatfieldms]

direct from your man Crooms-

"We felt like the way people are playing us that we have to be able to do that, spread people out more than we've done."

Spread people out? Whattttttttt? Seems like you guys have heard that somewhere repeatedly over the last year.

First of all dumb ***, I want Croom fired as bad as you do so I am not sure how he is my man. And second don't pat yourself on the back to hard about claiming to be the first to say we should go to the spread. You weren't the only one to say it. And you have been wrong plenty of times this year to help offset when you are right. See Vandy

 

[Coach34]

"And second don't pat yourself on the back to hard about claiming to be the first to say we should go to the spread."

I was because I started saying 4 damn years ago

 

[hatfieldms]

"And second don't pat yourself on the back to hard about claiming to be the first to say we should go to the spread."

I was because I started saying 4 damn years ago

And?

 

[bulldogbaja]

I never argued with your spread obsession, heck I even picked Auburn to win the West. Now they're the most underperforming team in the SEC, exclusively because of offense (or lack thereof). You have to admit, this season's results overall have been far from a conclusive endorsement of the spread.

 

[Coach34]

I watched West Virginia put 34 on Auburn with the Spread
I've watched Florida win a NC, a Heisman, and score a helluva lot of points running the Spread
Kentucky has been to a bowl game the last 2 years as a Spread team
I watched a ****** MTSU roll up 350 yards of offense against our pretty good SEC defense last night
If you dont think Kansas, TTech, Missouri, Okie St, Oklahoma, and Texas could run the Spread in the SEC you are very wrong

Just because Tubby made a bad hire and they had lots of in fighting on their staff, doesnt make Auburn the poster child for why the Spread shouldnt be run in the SEC.

 

[Brutius]

1) West Virginia is 69th/71st in total/scoring offense. They scored 3 points against ECU and 17 against Syracuse (105th ranked defense). They are hardly a poster child for offensive success.

2) MTSU is ranked 91st/104th in total/scoring offense. They haven't scored more than 23 points all year. They have the 115th ranked rushing offense at 86 ypg. they are hardly a poster child for offensive success

3) Rich Rodriguez is still behind Sylvester Croom in total offense. His spread offense is hardly a poster child for offensive success.

There are good spread teams and there are bad spread teams. The good ones for the most part have good talent and the bad ones for the most part do not. Talent, in general, is what separates good teams from bad. There are certain points where coaching stupidity (see MSU for details) can diminish or negate whatever talent is there, but in most cases for the top offensive teams, they are there because they have great players.

 

[disturbeddawg]

I picked AU as well, but they did a piss poor job of running the spread. With Todd in there they tried running the read option way too much - when everybody knew he was going to hand off nearly every time. I don't even think he was reading the DE. Then they would bring Burns in and start trying to throw and not running the read option. Just never understood their thinking, but I'm in Coaches corner that the spread works.

 

[Todd4State]

next week when Croom says that we are a power-I running team.

I find it pretty funny that you were bitching Croom out because he said that we were a WCO team, and now even though we are running the same plays out of the same formations and says that we are a spread team, you're patting yourself on the back.

Anyway, my whole arguement was not that the spread didn't work, but more that the WCO can work in college. And it has since the 1940's or so.

It's moot as far as our team is concerned since we haven't been running the WCO since Croom has been here, no matter what he has said. The fact the "Mr. Crooms" is trying to put stock into anything Croom says in a lame attempt to say that he is right is pretty sad, and ironic.

 

[Coach34]

is that even though those Spread teams didnt have highly rated offenses, they still able to put up points and yardage on these badass SEC defenses? Isnt that pretty much what you just typed?

 

[Brutius]

over the entire season they have relatively sucked. They put up a lot of points or yards in one game (kinda like MSU did last year against Arkansas and Kentucky). Do you think that those games verified the MSU offense last year? Because I don't.

 

[Stormrider81]

with a traditional QB. They weren't running a pure spread that year. With the ultimate spread QB they haven't had equal results.