Final AP poll before the dance has State #4.....

thekimmer

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AP poll seems to think State should get a 1. Louisville drops to #5. UO falls to 7.
 

dickiedawg

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Charlie Creme thinks so as well. Has us as a 1 in Portland with Oregon as 2.

The principle of sending a Number One Seed more than 2400 miles to play in the backyard of the 2 seed is really outrageous. That 2 seed should be Stanford's.
 
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Charlie Creme thinks so as well. Has us as a 1 in Portland with Oregon as 2.

The principle of sending a Number One Seed more than 2400 miles to play in the backyard of the 2 seed is really outrageous. That 2 seed should be Stanford's.

You are correct but we can beat either one of them.
 

blacklistedbully

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You are correct but we can beat either one of them.

But can we beat Oregon in Oregon if the officials are again gonna foul out two of our starters and allow them to mug T? Remember, it was a back-and-forth game until they fouled out Jo and had Howard in foul trouble.
 

RocketDawg

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But can we beat Oregon in Oregon if the officials are again gonna foul out two of our starters and allow them to mug T? Remember, it was a back-and-forth game until they fouled out Jo and had Howard in foul trouble.

Shouldn't there be a different set of officials this time? Presumably, last time they were from the Pac 12, and they should be from a neutral conference this time. Regardless, a 1-seed traveling that far shouldn't happen. They should put us in Greensboro and Baylor out there, since nothing is close to them anyway. Really, the Greensboro or the Chicago should be moved somewhere else.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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Pairing 4 and 7 doesn’t promote the “balance” they’ve been talking about. So Baylor at Portland actually makes more sense, plus Baylor is flying to either place. Give us Greensboro.
 

blacklistedbully

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RD, I don't know how it is done, but even with "neutral" officials, haven't there been studies that have shown officials can be at least subliminally influenced by home crowds? Seems to me I've read before that "close calls or no calls" tend to favor the team with the most fans at a game, suggesting that an official is less likely to make a call against the team that has a decided advantage in fans at the game due to a recognition a call against the home team will invite hostility from the larger crowd.

Not saying it happens all the time, but if a critical call or two in a tight game goes against you, you could be going home.
 

blacklistedbully

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Frankly, I suspect it might be better to be a 2-seed in Albany with UConn than a 1-seed in Portland with Oregon.
 

patdog

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I'd rather be in Portland and it's not close. UConn has 2 losses. At Baylor and at Louisville. And they won at Notre Dame. Oregon has lost to 3 teams outside the top 10 (2 outside the top 25).
 

thekimmer

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Frankly, I suspect it might be better to be a 2-seed in Albany with UConn than a 1-seed in Portland with Oregon.

I don't understand the logic in that.

Option 1 Play a 2 loss team in their backyard that has phenomenal fan support and hasn't lost a regional tournament in 11 years.

Option 2 Play a 4 loss team in their backyard that has good fan support and nowhere near the NCAA tourney experience.

I'll take option 2 all day long.
 

MSUDC11

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It doesn't happen often, but Vic was out coached at Oregon. It won't happen again

The first meeting was a strange game. Teaira went for 36 and 20 against them last year and only had 5 points this time around. Their defense wasn’t THAT much better against us, and T has had a great season, so I feel like her being a non factor was kinda fluky. Also, Oregon had the best free throw shooting game I’ve ever seen. Finished 27-28 or something like that. Also, that game was lost on the defensive end and I feel like we are noticeably better defensively than we were early on.
 

blacklistedbully

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I think we match up well vs UConn, and we already have the confidence of knowing we can beat them on the biggest stage. Not suggesting we won't be confident vs Oregon, but I also think UConn may have a little more doubt going against us than Oregon would.

I don't think this UConn team is nearly as good as previous teams. Their only really good win was vs ND, and ND lost their poise in the 4th Q. They've lost to Baylor and Louisville.

Oregon has more losses and a bad loss, but have beaten 3 teams currently ranked in the Top 11, including #4, 6 & 11. Two of their losses were to #6 & 11.

Since UConn has played just 3 games vs Top 11 (Top 5), and have gone 1-2, needing something of a ND meltdown in their sole win, who is to know how many losses UConn would have if they'd played 5 games vs Top 11 teams? Is it hard to imagine a team that went 1-2 vs Top 5 might be 2-3 or 1-4 vs us, #6 Stanford x 2, & #11 Oregon State x 2?

Now add to that academy-award nominee Katie Lou Samuelson appears to have a bad back, and I think a case can be made that Oregon may be more dangerous in Portland than UConn in Albany. Then consider the UConn loss to Baylor was mostly because they had no answer for big Baylor center Kalani Brown, who scored and rebounded at-will vs them and it gets more interesting.
 

Len2003

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Danberry also fouled out of the Oregon game early in the 4th. Vic sat T out and put Carter in for most of the 4th. Kind of a weird game. Scott hadn't really figured out how to play at that point, and AEH never played. Our team is different now and has figured some stuff out while Oregon is in a bit of a downslide. They looked bad last night against Stanford, and their big girl wasn't a factor. Vic needs to look at that tape.
 

615dawg

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Also, they had a run in the 3rd/4th quarter where they hit 12 straight FGs. Oregon is a great team that beats us 1 out of 10 games. They had their one. There is no way they will beat us a second time. UCLA sucks and beat them. Stanford is about as good as South Carolina and they beat them. Oregon State is formidable and they beat them. Michigan State is going to be a 9 or 10 seed and they beat them. I like our chances barring a Missouri meltdown game.

Also, T will not be off a second time. We might beat them by 20 with neutral officiating. And playing in Portland is not the same as playing in Eugene. They'll have more fan support, but they will not be a factor in the game.

Look how the fans are on top of the court - just like the old Pit in Eugene that MKA replaced. The place gets loud.



The Rose Garden (Moda Center) is a cavern. The corners don't even face the court. Plus all the close seats will be corporate.

 
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