Fire Franklin. This is coaching malpractice!/Combined complaints post UCLA
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All the rage and frustration aside, there’s virtually a 0% chance PSU moves on from Franklin after this season. Only Franklin leaving would trigger that outcome and that train left the station today.
But it sets up an interesting dynamic for 2026 when the team looks to be a lot worse on paper. How many rough seasons would Kraft and boosters have the patience for?
But it sets up an interesting dynamic for 2026 when the team looks to be a lot worse on paper. How many rough seasons would Kraft and boosters have the patience for?
We don't need him for 10 years.
2 or 3 top recruiting classes and a few deep playoff runs and he can re-retire.
Give him a job cleaning up all the cow poop at the dairy barns. If he refuses you could fire him for job abandonment!
Makes zero sense. Stay: get paid $50 mil. Get Fired: get $50. Get hired by another school will still get $50m plus whatever extra from the new school.
Retired voluntarily and get some number less than that.
Learned a few valuable lessons….
1. Our success in 2024 was largely due to our two superstars, Warren and Carter. We won in spite of Franklin and Allar.
2. The coaching staff has had training wheels on Allar for his entire career because he does not have it upstairs. Pribula would have beaten Oregon last week.
3. Teams do not hold back substantially in early games. You are who you are. We struggled to varying degrees vs 3 low level opponents. That's who we are this season.
4. It is destructive to have such a pathetic non-conference schedule. We were not prepared to play real teams this season. It is worth having at least a wvu level opponent like the prior two years to tune up.
5. KLS and Wallace were right to leave. Allar is awful.
6. Franklin is the worst in-game coach in America. The breakdowns at the end of the halves were bad enough, but the lack of a qb spy was freaking malpractice.
7. Fire Franklin.
1. Our success in 2024 was largely due to our two superstars, Warren and Carter. We won in spite of Franklin and Allar.
2. The coaching staff has had training wheels on Allar for his entire career because he does not have it upstairs. Pribula would have beaten Oregon last week.
3. Teams do not hold back substantially in early games. You are who you are. We struggled to varying degrees vs 3 low level opponents. That's who we are this season.
4. It is destructive to have such a pathetic non-conference schedule. We were not prepared to play real teams this season. It is worth having at least a wvu level opponent like the prior two years to tune up.
5. KLS and Wallace were right to leave. Allar is awful.
6. Franklin is the worst in-game coach in America. The breakdowns at the end of the halves were bad enough, but the lack of a qb spy was freaking malpractice.
7. Fire Franklin.
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Not defending CJF, and you don't need Marshall, don't sell yourself short, you're all idiots and your coaching skills have nothing to do with it. Franklin is not going anywhere, unless you have an extra 50 Mil and a mouse in your pocket.
You have to make him feel unwelcome. Take everything you can. Replace his laptop with an obsolete old desktop. No access to private travel. Cut his budgets. Close his restroom. Move his office. Have big donors hassle him. Anything and everything.
The cows deserve better.
Why is no one mentioning Pat Fitzgerald? He won his case against NW .
That won’t happen at Penn State and it shouldn’t. The University made its bed and now has to sleep in it.
These 10-year deals will go down in business and law school case study lore of examples of what not to do. They’re crippling and completely one sided.
Team plane about to go wheels up from LAX
I wonder who's walking home.
There were also two NetJets flights from Burbank to State College. Someone was riding in style.
I wonder who's walking home.
There were also two NetJets flights from Burbank to State College. Someone was riding in style.
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Sandy did it for a reason. I could explain why, but it's best I don't. I'll stop now.
There's a photo out there of James hefting Sandy....this one will need to suffice in the interim.
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they should cancel the flight and make them take a Greyhound home
I don’t see him as a big improvement. What do you see in him?
Losing to a dumpster fire 0-4 team is an embarrassment regardless of when it happens. Even if we manage to go 10-2, that loss will likely put us near the bottom of the two-loss pecking order. Won't matter anyway. That won't be our last defeat.
That deal was made under the last AD. If Kraft is serious about trying to actually contend, he needs to do anything in his power to make Franklin leave. Don't forget, his job might be on the line at some point too. Ultimately, if big donors threaten to withhold money, that would get the ball rolling. Why pay for a senior QB who looks less composed than a high school freshman.
Oh, I follow your drift and you may be right. But the fact remains that Penn State should operate with class and acknowledge this is a problem of their own making.
Kraft runs one of the biggest ADs in the nation. It will suck, but PSU needs to pay Franklin and be done with it.
Not to mention guaranteeing it as well as massive buyouts that these schools force upon themselves. Coaches are hired to be fired yet schools continually tie their own hands with these giant buyout numbers.
It’s possible that Kraft is playing a form of hardball by not extending Franklin. Or he may be trying to shorten the contract length in exchange for a higher per-year salary.
PSU has zero leverage with the current deal. It’s an all timer by Sandy, who rode off into the sunset and avoided the repercussions.
PSU is infamous for this... First how to handle the Sandusky case now how to handle JF....
PSU has become the General Motors of the college sports world. Living off of past success and destroying value left and right.
Thank God they’re in the Big Ten and have the structural advantages they do.
Put CJF's demonstrated skills to good use at the University:
Vehicles for Sale or Bid - Lion Surplus
You’re right. And there’s zero need to extend him right now. Still has 7 years left.
I like Coach Franklin. I think he is a good man and has done a lot of good at PSU, but his time has come to leave. We need a fresh perpective....so does he (ala Andy Reid with the Eagles to KC). Just as he was soft during the pandemic, he seems to have checked out now too. Not all his fault though. Coach AK is a major disappointment. I think what he told us when he arrived was he puts his players/talent in the best position to succeed - he hasn't. He's a bust! Jim Knowles is an elite DC, just tried to install too much, too fast with the talent he has.
Also wonder about the wisdom about bringing so many 5th year seniors (except K Allen) back. They too have seemed to lose their focus looking ahead to the NFL. #10 has totally regressed.
OL is a mystery to me. I think it is a problem based on scheme...not talent. Thanks Coach AK.
We were over rated/ranked to start the season. If Franklin stays I'm not sure we can save the season....maybe if he cans AK. AK thinks he is a genius and is much too gimmicky and cute to win any titles or even B10 games.
Lastly, I think the loss of TE Tyler Warren impacted us more than we expected. I thought someone would step up. They haven't.
Also wonder about the wisdom about bringing so many 5th year seniors (except K Allen) back. They too have seemed to lose their focus looking ahead to the NFL. #10 has totally regressed.
OL is a mystery to me. I think it is a problem based on scheme...not talent. Thanks Coach AK.
We were over rated/ranked to start the season. If Franklin stays I'm not sure we can save the season....maybe if he cans AK. AK thinks he is a genius and is much too gimmicky and cute to win any titles or even B10 games.
Lastly, I think the loss of TE Tyler Warren impacted us more than we expected. I thought someone would step up. They haven't.
Sorry to the players, but you all are going to be sacrificed on the alter of “it has to get worse before anyone does anything about it.”
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One thing to keep in mind is that the buyout is offset by his next contract.
He’s owed roughly 8 million a year on a buyout. If he takes a job for 6 mil the next year, they only owe the difference. He’s relatively young and almost certainly coach again.