Fire Franklin. This is coaching malpractice!/Combined complaints post UCLA

WaffleShopper

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I like Urban but he comes with his own set of problems. Not sure if the Admin would be willing to gamble or if Urban would come. But he's a proven winner and recruiter so I think you'd see a positive impact quickly. Plus, I heard he's looking to get back into coaching so maybe?
As of early this year he said he’s happy with his life and not interested in getting back into coaching. He’s gotta be at the top of the list of phone calls though if all you’re interested in is winning. Worst he can say is no.
 

WaffleShopper

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What’s his problem? Winning?
He’s a control freak and only cares about winning. That’s great when it comes to winning football games but not with things like disciplining his better players or treatment of his staff. One of the best football coaches you can find just not a good human being.

In other words he’s the complete opposite of James Franklin. I’m guessing that’s exactly what most people will want at this point.
 

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I've always liked Ruhle, afraid he's going to turn it around in Nebraska. He's definitely in the mix I think if Big Game James ever moves on.
 

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1. Why continue to give Singleton carries at this point? -- I'm not joking. In what way does it benefit the team to persist with the insane charade that we have two running backs? Singleton got more carries than Allen in this game (again!), and was once again roughly half as effective. He should be in there as a blocker, and as a pass option, and that's it. Giving him carries is not playing to win, and at this point, it's one of the clearest indicators that James Franklin might be trying to get fired. How else can you justify putting inferior players in the game, when the game is on the line?
Franklin has mentioned Sunday scrimmages a couple times. My only guess about Singleton is that our tackling (and specifically our LB play) is so bad that it’s possible Singleton breaks a lot of long runs during practices and scrimmages. Maybe our coaches see that and expect it in games.
 
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Need PSU to shoot higher whenever it is that they find themselves in the market for a new coach.
 

LB99

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I've always liked Ruhle, afraid he's going to turn it around in Nebraska. He's definitely in the mix I think if Big Game James ever moves on.
Turn it around and do what? He’s 2-23 vs top 25 teams and he has won 0 games vs top ten teams in his career. He seems like a good guy, but his success has been taking cellar teams and making them competitive. He has yet to take a team and make them conference champs or sniff the playoffs. For all the reasons people want to see Franklin go, those are the same reasons people should not want to see Rhule hired. People need to stop thinking because someone played at PSU they are going to be great coaches. It doesn’t work that way. Golden was great at Temple. He’s been really good as a coordinator. He was awful at Miami and they couldn’t wait to get rid of him. Nice guy, though.
 
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I've always liked Ruhle, afraid he's going to turn it around in Nebraska. He's definitely in the mix I think if Big Game James ever moves on.
Nice guy--never turning it around in Lincoln despite being handed a QB because of family times.
I don't think we'd ever hire someone with ties to Paterno but we shouldn't want Rhule. Might as well stay mediocre with James
 

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Once again, Franklin throws the players under the bus. Blames them for doing uncharacteristic things. Like he has coached them and they failed to carry out their assignments. I'm a bit tired of his lack of transparency.
 

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Interesting reading the news articles this morning regarding PSU football. Some have written what I stated in the game thread. Worst loss in Penn State history that they can remember, or at least during the Franklin era. The professional players on the team who also happen to be “attending school” are not even coming close to earning their income. It’s even worse for the highly compensated DC and OC. When it comes to the HC, it is off the charts with regard to his production versus his multi million dollar salary. He cannot even come close to backing up his salary with his record.

As some have said, he is nothing but a 2 bit used car salesman. Dominate the state in recruiting? At times he has been dominated in recruiting. Notice he doesn’t say that any more. Beating top 10 opponents so that he can say that the program is ”elite” has not been mentioned lately. He is the parent (i.e. coach) who is a friend to his kids (i.e. team) rather than being a disciplinarian and leader when appropriate. He is their buddy, not boss at work. This is why his teams are so soft.
 

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It’s too much money guys. Strictly from a dollars and cents viewpoint the media will have a field day. When you factor in the buyout, the cost of a new head coach, coordinators and assistants you will have stepped into a fiscal black hole. Maybe in two or three years, yes pull the plug, but right now it doesn’t make sense unless someone can guarantee a National Championship in two or three years. Just my two cents.
It's not too much money--the damage of keeping him is worse. We make plenty of money to buy him out
Now, if he went 10-2 this year with competitive losses to Ohio State and Oregon then I'd agree with you but...
His OC still can't adapt to talent (no idea why he's still employed), the elite DC we agreed to pay for him to get him over the just gave up over 40 points to UCLA.
He has no answers--none--and admitted it's on him for not having us ready. He's gotta go. Money is just money--they'll find more.
 
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Matt Campbell is an excellent choice.
I get this logic but not what I'd do.
I'd hire a young coach that will buy into NIL--Ben Arbuckle should be the first call
Well, Kirby Smart should be the first call but then Arbuckle.
 
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That deal was made under the last AD. If Kraft is serious about trying to actually contend, he needs to do anything in his power to make Franklin leave. Don't forget, his job might be on the line at some point too. Ultimately, if big donors threaten to withhold money, that would get the ball rolling. Why pay for a senior QB who looks less composed than a high school freshman.
I would be happy with a restructuring similar to what Michigan did with Harbaugh....but i believe the chances of that are similar to PSU winning a Natty with CJF....
 
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I see tough old school smash mouth football that will support his players but not coddle them. CJF to me is a finesse coach not a power coach. Football begins and ends in the lines....and our last two loses our OL and DL have been pushed around.
How does that work in the NIL era?
You can have strong DLs and OLs while not playing smashmouth football
The issue is the scheme--how much of that is on AK vs CJF is the real question--thought given the past OCs it sure feels like it's Franklin
For the record, I'd love to run Georgia's offense for example
 
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Golden has successfully coached all phases of the game...
I would prefer to see someone about 15 yrs younger. I wouldn't want someone in their 50's or later. It would mean looking for another coach in 10 yrs. 40 to 45 yrs old with about 5 yrs as a head coach with a great record somewhere else.
 
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nl4ever

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This team and most of its fan base, has an entitlement attitude that undermines the actual difficult planning and damn hard work it takes to reach the top in sports.
The team's performance has absolutely nothing to do with the fan base. Most of the fan bases of top schools are no different and their teams aren't consistently underperforming their talent this bad because of their fan base's entitled attitudes. So comments about the fan base are completely off target and serve no purpose.
 

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Once again, Franklin throws the players under the bus. Blames them for doing uncharacteristic things. Like he has coached them and they failed to carry out their assignments. I'm a bit tired of his lack of transparency.
Yes in his presser he seemed to throw players under the bus and really didn't take much responsibility on himself or his coaching staff
 

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The team's performance has absolutely nothing to do with the fan base. Most of the fan bases of top schools are no different and their teams aren't consistently underperforming their talent this bad because of their fan base's entitled attitudes. So comments about the fan base are completely off target and serve no purpose.
I am of the opinion that a team's collective emotional efficacy is impacted by a program's fan base. We disagree; no worries.
 

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"Franklin is now 0-3 when the Nittany Lions are a 20-plus point favorite. The last time they fell was in 2021 against Illinois when they were a 24.5-point favorite."

UCLA, Illinois. who was the 3rd loss?

 

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‘Mutual parting of the ways’ à la Eagles/Reid needs to happen. Franklin isn’t having a good time, the team isn’t, and neither are the fans. It’s a decade long marriage that they’re in because of the kids (in this case - stadium investment, stability, new Adidas deal, etc) just stuck in the mire. The ceiling for CJF was apparent to me after the Kentucky bowl loss. And since then there has been a revolving door of ‘it’ OCs who IMO execute Franklin’s offensive philosophy despite personnel that clearly do not align with it. It’s enough and has been for some time.

Who to get? Dunno. But ready for the next thing.
 

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‘Mutual parting of the ways’ à la Eagles/Reid needs to happen. Franklin isn’t having a good time, the team isn’t, and neither are the fans. It’s a decade long marriage that they’re in because of the kids (in this case - stadium investment, stability, new Adidas deal, etc) just stuck in the mire. The ceiling for CJF was apparent to me after the Kentucky bowl loss. And since then there has been a revolving door of ‘it’ OCs who IMO execute Franklin’s offensive philosophy despite personnel that clearly do not align with it. It’s enough and has been for some time.

Who to get? Dunno. But ready for the next thing.
Exactly... PSU has reached its ceiling with JF. He will always have 2-3 losses a season and struggle against top ranked teams. It's becoming like a broken record. If the PSU admin is always good with 9-3 record and some cheesy bowl game or losing in the first round of the playoffs then JF is your guy.
 

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This point in Franklin's PSU career is starting to look a lot like early 2000's for JoePa. A whole lackadaisical approach to coaching and recruiting. He's got 6 years under contract to resurrect it but I don't know he's going to last that long under the mounting pressure. Two more years of this performance and I'd say he walks away.
He should have been fired last night!
 

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It's not too much money--the damage of keeping him is worse. We make plenty of money to buy him out
Now, if he went 10-2 this year with competitive losses to Ohio State and Oregon then I'd agree with you but...
His OC still can't adapt to talent (no idea why he's still employed), the elite DC we agreed to pay for him to get him over the just gave up over 40 points to UCLA.
He has no answers--none--and admitted it's on him for not having us ready. He's gotta go. Money is just money--they'll find more.
"Obviously"
 

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Meanwhile Belichek buyout is under $30 million. Thanks Sandy. I hope JF sent you to Tahiti after he signed the contract
 
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"Franklin is now 0-3 when the Nittany Lions are a 20-plus point favorite. The last time they fell was in 2021 against Illinois when they were a 24.5-point favorite."

UCLA, Illinois. who was the 3rd loss?

That doesn’t make sense at all. We are a 20+ point favorite in about half our games every year
 

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All the rage and frustration aside, there’s virtually a 0% chance PSU moves on from Franklin after this season. Only Franklin leaving would trigger that outcome and that train left the station today.

But it sets up an interesting dynamic for 2026 when the team looks to be a lot worse on paper. How many rough seasons would Kraft and boosters have the patience for?
Schedule relatively weak
 
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