Fire Hobbs

RUSK97

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Hobbs may be a great fundraiser, but he can’t hire worth crap. Two coaches who can’t win. Only reason BB wins a few is inventive soft scheduling.
 

scarletbergen

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Oh yes, Hobbs is just the very besty best best!

Fire Hobbs for hiring ash and then get a load of this...extending him after last year.

Fire Hobbs
 

RUforlife

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Hobbs is the one who extended Ash’s contract, guaranteeing him $10 million Dollars, thus ensuring we will be stuck with Ash.
Shhh, don't confuse them with facts. Hobbs is the man!!! Best AD ever, he will get it done, just needs to focus on football.
 

bac2therac

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Agreed. And BOG. They will circle the wagons and say it does not matter. It is futile.


what is sad is many fell for the ******** that came out of Barchi's mouth when Ash was hired...about things being different...stepping up to compete blah blah blah

fact is Barchi 9 months before Julie was fired, did not want to spend one penny on a basketball facility.. He has been on record as saying they will not spend money to win (paraphrasing)
 
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Hobbs may be a great fundraiser, but he can’t hire worth crap. Two coaches who can’t win. Only reason BB wins a few is inventive soft scheduling.
Fundraising is a big deal though. It's as important as hiring good coaches. We're not Michigan or OSU etc...where a scarecrow can raise funds. The kind of fundraising he's done is unprecedented for us and I've said before he deserves multiple bites at the apple and he certainly wouldn't be the first AD to get them.

That being said this is why I don't like extensions given by ADs without proof of consistency. Hobbs is hardly alone in that, they all do it and I rail against it constantly here. If they're gonna walk let them more times than not you're not losing. I don't buy the you need it for recruits either. There are only a limited number of scholarships available if they want to play you'll find players, look how many transfers you see over playing time. On top of which I think most of the time schools recruit to the status of their school barring an extremely good/poor recruiter or longer term good/bad performance so a coach's contract length is inconsequential IMO.
 

ScarletKid2008

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Hobbs is a gift to the university. He is hamstrung by a BOG and president who want nothing to do with athletics (and are also severely under delivering in academics ) .

It isn’t Hobbs job to win football games. It’s Ash’s. If Hobbs does nothing about an ineffective coach then its his *** on the line. So I guess you could say “it’s your move now Pat”
 
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scarletbergen

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Hobbs is a gift to the university. He is hamstrung by a BOG and president who want nothing to do with athletics (and are also severely under delivering in academics ) .

It isn’t Hobbs job to win football games. It’s Ash’s. If Hobbs does nothing about an ineffective coach then its his *** on the line. So I guess you could say “it’s your move now Pat”
Nope. Hobbs is incompetent! He extended Ash and tied his own hands. Hobbs played his cards poorly and lost. Hobbs must go!
 

rurahrah000

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No need to fire Hobbs. he has made many, many good decisions. Ash was a bad one, but maybe I'll give him a pass on this one.
 
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JCKnight

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Hobbs may be a great fundraiser, but he can’t hire worth crap. Two coaches who can’t win. Only reason BB wins a few is inventive soft scheduling.
Scheduling Kansas (whoever it was) was some soft scheduling as well
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Shea-era level product with Schiano-era level prices.
If Ash is on the hotseat, Hobbs should be right there next to him.

You talk about "best AD".. who knows what TP might have done had Barchi had a backbone where it came to anyone but his own job.

The people posting those WE ARE DOOMED memes tongue in cheek... they might have been right all along.

How can Ash recover from this spot? I don't think he can.

How can Hobbs get in a name coach who can rebuild Rutgers from this spot? Its a bad time of year to need a coach.. with the new contract its a bad time to try to come up with money for such a thing.. every season ticket holder would be justified in feeling their tickets are a loss for the season... if not multiple seasons..

This was horrendous.. awful.. the absolute worst.. this Kansas game alone is worse than the vaunted BuffaNova debacle. Worse than 80-7 vs WVU. Maybe about the same as getting pounded by Kent State on homecoming under Flood.. and that should have gotten him fired, right? In retrospect it would have saved a lot of time.

I just thought about NOT posting this.. that maybe I am just too negative and emotional after a single loss like this... then I thought.. you know what.. I really have seen enough of Ash and his stubbornness regarding keeping Sitkowski out there is just too much like Flood with Nova.
 

BlockR

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Hobbs honeymoon is over..he still has C.viv contract..
dwindling season ticket base for football..
and HE gave Ash an extension..
NOW WHAT PAT? You hired Ash and gave him an extension..now you figure how to get rid of him and his extra year contract before the program slides deeper into the hole ..
 
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BlockR

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No need to fire Hobbs. he has made many, many good decisions. Ash was a bad one, but maybe I'll give him a pass on this one.
this is Hobbs BIG hire and guy he then ran to give EXTRA money to when he cried he couldnt recruit with his contract..
waaahhh..guess what ..Ash still CANT recruit..nor can he Coach..
You figure this mess out now Mr Hobbs..
 

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If Ash is on the hotseat, Hobbs should be right there next to him.

You talk about "best AD".. who knows what TP might have done had Barchi had a backbone where it came to anyone but his own job.

The people posting those WE ARE DOOMED memes tongue in cheek... they might have been right all along.

How can Ash recover from this spot? I don't think he can.

How can Hobbs get in a name coach who can rebuild Rutgers from this spot? Its a bad time of year to need a coach.. with the new contract its a bad time to try to come up with money for such a thing.. every season ticket holder would be justified in feeling their tickets are a loss for the season... if not multiple seasons..

This was horrendous.. awful.. the absolute worst.. this Kansas game alone is worse than the vaunted BuffaNova debacle. Worse than 80-7 vs WVU. Maybe about the same as getting pounded by Kent State on homecoming under Flood.. and that should have gotten him fired, right? In retrospect it would have saved a lot of time.

I just thought about NOT posting this.. that maybe I am just too negative and emotional after a single loss like this... then I thought.. you know what.. I really have seen enough of Ash and his stubbornness regarding keeping Sitkowski out there is just too much like Flood with Nova.
No one that just signed a 5 year $10M extension is going to be on the hot seat after three games, one a win and one an expected loss...
 

BlockR

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No one that just signed a 5 year $10M extension is going to be on the hot seat after three games, one a win and one an expected loss...
guess you missed the combined scores of like 250 to 27 thru the PSU,Michigan,Ohio State games last season? or the OSU game and KANSAS game this year..??
 
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Mr. Magoo1

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I like Hobbs but the love affair is ridiculous. Saying he’s the best we’ve had almost means nothing with our futility. He seems to say and do a lot of he right things, and there are infrastructure improvements on the way, but we are still bottom-feeders in football and basketball and he has extended Ash and Stringer. Jury is still out.
 
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JCKnight

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that Barchi should Fire Ash and Hobbs together?
and Rutgers is now the worst power five program ?
Barchi isn’t going to fire Hobbs unless those donor checks from the Towers family and others stop coming in...you have a major fundraising effort going on right now with some momentum Hobbs isn’t going anywhere
 

Abro1975

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Hobbs has hired possibly the worst Head Football coach in RU's history, and that's saying something, then doubled down by extending him twice. And Ash has the best facilities any Football Coach at Ru has ever had. Hobbs erred greatly, Him and Ash both need to go, but as usual, RU is Screwed, unless the Gov or big donors come to the rescue.
 
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I like Hobbs but the love affair is ridiculous. Saying he’s the best we’ve had almost means nothing with our futility. He seems to say and do a lot of he right things, and there are infrastructure improvements on the way, but we are still bottom-feeders in football and basketball and he has extended Ash and Stringer. Jury is still out.
Infrastructure is permanent regardless of HC. HC hires are almost always an inexact science regardless of spending money. The improved infrastructure will be there for any RU HC and that's important especially considering how woeful our is, it's not like we're replacing a great stuff with even greater stuff like some of these schools, we're just getting ourselves up to par.

So fundraising is as important as coaching hires at this point. Many other ADs get multiple hires and they don't even have the impact that Hobbs has had in fundraising here.

The contract extension was unnecessary and unfortunately he's just going with the herd of all other ADs.
 
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JCKnight

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Infrastructure is permanent regardless of HC. HC hires are almost always an inexact science regardless of spending money. The improved infrastructure will be there for any RU HC and that's important especially considering how woeful our is, it's not like we're replacing a great stuff with even greater stuff like some of these schools, we're just getting ourselves up to par.

So fundraising is as important as coaching hires at this point. Many other ADs get multiple hires and they don't even have the impact that Hobbs has had in fundraising here.

The contract extension was unnecessary and unfortunately he's just going with the herd of all other ADs.
Agreed on the fundraising point...Barchi doesn’t care about wins and losses he cares about money coming into the program so as long as Hobbs is getting decent donations that is what will keep His job...paying $10M to buy out a HC that he just extended is not gonna happen because it’s about money not wins and losses
 
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he will stay, but he needs to accelerate a new plan for football, he needs to find boosters willing to put up big time program money or this will continue