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TuckyFB

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Landon Young will be one of our starting tackles.

He's that talented.
 

Nuke99m.

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Landon Young will be one of our starting tackles.

He's that talented.

Wish he could play defensive line. That being said, if we start a freshman offensive lineman in the SEC we are in trouble on the line. Freshman should not start on your line if you want to compete.
 

kyrivals

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Heard a rumor. A offensive lineman maybe trying out on the DL. Interesting but doesn't sound good.
 

RocknRollCats

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Oh really?
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Andre Smith, Cam Robinson, and Jonah Williams. Alabama Crimson Tide.


Just saw Jonah Williams listed as first string on the Tide depth chart at RT, too. Poor Alabama. Evidently, they are in for a long season...

If I'm not mistaken, LSU had a freshman starter on the OL last year, too.
 
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Nuke99m.

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Oh really?
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Andre Smith, Cam Robinson, and Jonah Williams. Alabama Crimson Tide.

Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.
 

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Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.
You said that a freshman shouldn't start on OL in SEC and I provided examples. They are loaded with talent and freshmen beat tthe others out. If Landon Young starts, it's a good thing.
 

sluggercatfan

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Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.
If the coaches say he is the best...you start him. PERIOD
 

jauk11

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Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.

13 Nuke99m, 19 minutes ago



You are absolutely right, those freshmen had no competition.

But then at Bama they had to beat out a high ranking four star and at UK Young will have to beat out a walkon, even if he is very good and a hard worker.

Wait a minute, maybe I (or you) should do some more research.
 

3kidsandme

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Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.
Young is 6"7 305 pounds and super elite if he starts its great not good
 
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Nuke99m.

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You said that a freshman shouldn't start on OL in SEC and I provided examples. They are loaded with talent and freshmen beat tthe others out. If Landon Young starts, it's a good thing.

Then we agree to disagree. I agree you start him if the coaches say he is the best. I say if Landon Young starts we are in trouble. It's not like the rest of the line is made up of 5 star lineman that can pick up his slack. He will be out on an island at lt or rt tackle. We tried that with 4 star Asafo-Adjei (6'5" 315) last year. He started out okay but wore down physically. Kentucky is not Alabama or LSU.
 

Cazwheel1072

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Just saw Jonah Williams listed as first string on the Tide depth chart at RT, too. Poor Alabama. Evidently, they are in for a long season...

If I'm not mistaken, LSU had a freshman starter on the OL last year, too.

And Florida. Montez Ivey started at OT as a true frosh.

In fact, I read somewhere that the past 4 or 5 five star OT recruits that went to schools in the SEC all started as true frosh.

If you look at it that way, if Young doesn't start he would be the first 5 star SEC recruit not to do so in the last couple of years.
 

Nuke99m.

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Guess we will find out when the depth chart comes out for the first game. I expect Kyle Meadows and Cole Mosier to be the starters at Rt and Lt tackle with Haynes and Myers at guard. Young, Leavitt and Asafo-Adjei will the back-ups.
 

Beatle Bum

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Really. You are going to cherry pick 3 ALABAMA lineman on loaded teams with other 5 stars next to them and make the case that a freshman can start on UK's line.

I'll say it again . If UK starts a freshman on the o-line we are in trouble.

UGA, Bama, UL, UM, etc.

Take your pick of top tier or moderately good, you will find that good freshmen play on the OLine and it is not because they are surrounded by better players. It is because they are the best at their position.
 
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And Florida. Montez Ivey started at OT as a true frosh.

In fact, I read somewhere that the past 4 or 5 five star OT recruits that went to schools in the SEC all started as true frosh.

If you look at it that way, if Young doesn't start he would be the first 5 star SEC recruit not to do so in the last couple of years.

Yep. It happens. And another aspect is one could say that if those past 4-5 star OT recruits started at schools with more competition than we have for the spot (don't know just hypothetically) ... hence if he doesn't start then it's a bad thing because maybe it means he's not a star OT.
 
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K_TIME

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To me this is simple.

1. I love Cole Mosier story...but he was really sub par at LT last year. He is a big kid and more suited to play guard vs. tackle to me. But we really needed Leavitt to take that spot..he didn't look good in spring. So now we 're back to Cole.
2. If Landon is ready physically, he's very likely to play at a level that he's our best LT option with Meadows at RT.

It is really that simple to me...I'm looking forward to have a tackle with foot speed to deal with edge rushers. I'm sure at times he'll struggle with pure strength...but his foot speed with the DE we'll face at UF, Mizzou has a dandy, UT, etc....Landon is very likely to fare better than Mosier.
 
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Nuke99m.

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Also remember Young did not come in till now. He chose to concentrate on track and wrestling. I wonder how many of those starters( i honestly don't know) listed above skipped spring and then started after 4 weeks in camp.
I'm not trying to be anti Young. I'm just saying if we start him out of the blocks we have big problems on the line.
 

ulismyman

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I hope ot is true an offensive lineman moves to other side...these guys played both ways all their lives..they can make the adjustment
 

Dallas-Wild

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Then we agree to disagree. I agree you start him if the coaches say he is the best. I say if Landon Young starts we are in trouble. It's not like the rest of the line is made up of 5 star lineman that can pick up his slack. He will be out on an island at lt or rt tackle. We tried that with 4 star Asafo-Adjei (6'5" 315) last year. He started out okay but wore down physically. Kentucky is not Alabama or LSU.
GAA was wasn't playing his natural guard position either. He is this year.
 

TuckyFB

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The National Championship game at two FRESHMEN LT's

Robinson and Hyatt.

If Landon Young is physically and mental ready, which he is. He should start.
 
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It may be specifically true that if Young starts on the line we're in trouble, in some sense. But I know it's generally true the idea that "you get one loss for each freshman starter" is 1990s thinking.......
 

Nuke99m.

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The National Championship game at two FRESHMEN LT's

Robinson and Hyatt.

If Landon Young is physically and mental ready, which he is. He should start.
Sorry. Didn't know you were at practice and know he is physically and mentally ready to start from day 1.
 

Snowcats86

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The kids looks like a start LT in the SEC already. It happens all the time that 4 & 5* oline man start at freshman. Last year Clemson had one of the best OTs in the country in Mitch Hyatt and he was a true freshman 4*. I like Mosier but I dont see anyway that Young doesnt pass him by midseason if not sooner.
 

Nuke99m.

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The kids looks like a start LT in the SEC already. It happens all the time that 4 & 5* oline man start at freshman. Last year Clemson had one of the best OTs in the country in Mitch Hyatt and he was a true freshman 4*. I like Mosier but I dont see anyway that Young doesnt pass him by midseason if not sooner.

That i agree with. But imho Young will not be starting in 3 weeks.
 

TuckyFB

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Sorry. Didn't know you were at practice and know he is physically and mentally ready to start from day 1.

Awh, you mad?

You must haven't read what the media have said, or you're another pessimist that can't get it up anymore so you have to take your aggression out on here.

6'7" 310+ pounds isn't PHYSICALLY ready at ALL!

or you're also ignoring that fact that in only 4 days of practice he's pushing the starters for more playing time. Which also means by the 25 more practice's he'll probably be the starter.
 

Nuke99m.

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Nope. Not mad.are you? Can't take someone questioning you. Thanks for showing your maturity in your comments. It takes alot to get on my ignore list.
 
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Nuke99m.

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Basing it on not being here in the spring. His first practice was the other day. I don't expect a freshman who wasnt here in the spring to be ready to start in three weeks. Let's see how he does in pads for three weeks, learns the offensive calls and adapts to being a freshman in college.
 

TuckyFB

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This is another thing that I can wrap my head around from some of you people on this board.

You say the tackle position is a weakness for us but you don't want a 5 STAR OT who could've played anywhere in the book to play when he is obviously ready.

This is another situation that you need to make your mind up on.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Basing it on not being here in the spring. His first practice was the other day. I don't expect a freshman who wasnt here in the spring to be ready to start in three weeks. Let's see how he does in pads for three weeks, learns the offensive calls and adapts to being a freshman in college.

Gran says Young is pushing the starters after the first day in pads. Says his athleticism is obvious and he is absorbing information and does not back down. Actual quotes can be found in the thread on Gran from today.