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JoMo MoJo

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Just saw it. Awesome movie. I think the only screen playing it is at Tinseltown in Pearl though. Well worth the trip to see it.
Even though I knew NASA was filming Saturn V launches in hi def way back in the 60’s there’s video footage I’ve never seen before. It’s amazing it took nearly 40 years for that to be the standard for television broadcasts.
 
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Nope . . . .

Just saw it. Awesome movie. I think the only screen playing it is at Tinseltown in Pearl though. Well worth the trip to see it.
Even though I knew NASA was filming Saturn V launches in hi def way back in the 60’s there’s video footage I’ve never seen before. It’s amazing it took nearly 40 years for that to be the standard for television broadcasts.

They cut the flag planting scene - big problem for me. I won't pay money to see it.
 

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Posted without comment or any intended slant on my part:

While many conservative critics tore the movie apart on Twitter, Armstrong's sons, Rick and Mark, defended Chazelle in a statement to the Hollywood Reporter with author James R. Hansen, whose Armstrong biography offered the basis of the script. The three wrote:
"Although Neil didn't see himself that way, he was an American hero. He was also an engineer and a pilot, a father and a friend, a man who suffered privately through great tragedies with incredible grace. This is why, though there are numerous shots of the American flag on the moon, the filmmakers chose to focus on Neil looking back at the earth, his walk to Little West Crater, his unique, personal experience of completing this journey, a journey that has seen so many incredible highs and devastating lows. In short, we do not feel this movie is anti-American in the slightest. Quite the opposite."
 

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Yeah! How are people supposed to know that America got there first if there’s no flag planting scene?! Rabble rabble rabble!!!
 

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Lol. The “everything is too PC!” crowd has gotten as bad as the “I’m offended!” crowd.
 

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Sounds like you "ThEy DidN't PlaNt MuH FlaG" crybaby snowflakes need a safe space. Did it hurt your feelings?
 

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Or if we're going for historical accuracy, why don't they show the flag getting blown down to the ground when the lunar module takes off?
 

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Neil Armstrong was the anti-hero. He never wanted that portrayal and I’m sure his family was ok with it unfolding exactly like it did. If I had to guess, other than the obvious tragedies in his life, he probably felt a lot of guilt over the number of his friends who died that he could be bumped-up in the flight order.
 

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Visual representation.. start to finish of the movie:

 

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Yeah! How are people supposed to know that America got there first if there’s no flag planting scene?! Rabble rabble rabble!!!

Yeah the Soviet Union went full blown Ole Miss in the space race but we still ended up kicking their ***. Even with mars they attempted something like six landings on the surface of Mars and fail every time. The United States Attempted to land on Mars something like ten times and was successful nine. Numbers might be screwd a little but we still kicked that ***.
 

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I normally hate the I'm not watching this bc of that crowd, and definitely hate the it's cool to get your feelings hurt crowd, but I have been obsessed with the whole Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo missions as long as I could read. There's where I draw the line. He may have been one man that wasn't like that. But one nation put him on the moon and they took a helluva lot of pride in doing so. To not understand that means the producers might as well have not understood the entire post WWII United States. To not care to understand that time in this country's history leaves me not caring if I see this movie, which I plan not to do. But that's on my conscience, couldn't care less what y'all chose to do, but that's where I stand. Apollo 13 has been my favorite since I was 12ish and I seldom missed a shuttle launch if it was on tv, always loved how that whether a sticker or painting that Old Glory was always along for the ride. Now they wanna leave her at home. No wonder we're now hitching rides with commies, at least WERE.

edited to add that by my Armstrong may not have been like that comment, I was referencing the quote that 1msucub had posted.
 
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Sounds like you "ThEy DidN't PlaNt MuH FlaG" crybaby snowflakes need a safe space. Did it hurt your feelings?

^^^ Tries to flip the "triggered snowflake needs a safe space" narrative, but in reality is triggered because someone else is triggered. True to form, the triggered snowflake comes full circle. ^^^

Triggered snowflake downvote in 3...2...
 
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Wait. Who is the crybaby snowflake? The one that rewrote history to not offend anyone? Or the one that noticed?

There's no evidence that anyone "rewrote history not to offend anyone." No one would have batted an eye if they had shown the flag being physically planted, just like no one is complaining about the planted flag being shown in the movie.

This nontroversy was invented out of thin air by whiny, coddled right wing PC warriors who love hearing themselves talk and assigning fake sinister motivations to people for character assassinations to feel better about themselves.
 

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^^^ Tries to flip the "triggered snowflake needs a safe space" narrative, but in reality is triggered because someone else is triggered. True to form, the triggered snowflake comes full circle. ^^^

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Thanks for the review. The book was great

I’m planning on seeing the movie. For those complaining because the planting of the flag is left out, it might do you some good to reflect on the words of the President of the Ivory Coast who along with the heads of 72 other countries was allowed to put an inscription on a small disc left on the moon by Apollo 11. His writing was cited in the book as one of Neil’s favorites:

“At the moment when man’s oldest dream is becoming a reality, I am very thankful for NASA’s kind attention in offering me the services of the first human messenger to set foot on the Moon and carry the words of the Ivory Coast.
I would hope that when this passenger from the sky leaves man’s imprint on lunar soil, he will feel how proud we are to belong to the generation which has accomplished this feat.
I hope also that he would tell the Moon how beautiful it is when it illuminates the nights of the Ivory Coast.
I especially wish that he would turn towards our planet Earth and cry out how insignificant the problems which torture men are, when viewed from up there.
May his word, descending from the sky, find in the Cosmos the force and light which will permit him to convince humanity of the beauty of progress in brotherhood and peace.”
 

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It may have taken the pride of America but it was the tremendous courage of Neil Armstrong that landed the Eagle. The movie is way more about the chance that they wouldn’t return, that they would all be killed. Aboutbthe tremendous sacrifice that many gave in way of their lives so you can see a flag planted. What you want is a movie about John Glen. He always ate the spotlight up. He’ll validate your need for selfish patriotism. Neil was cut from different cloth and that why he had to be the one that landed first. He was the only one NASA trusted because he didn’t get caught up in the moment.

Maybe if Trump played Neil Armstrong it would be a movie you would think is worth your time.
 
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What? How in the hell would showing him planting the flag offend anyone? This is such a contrived argument. They didn’t show it because the story isn’t about that. It’s a story about a man, not some Cold War allegory. Hence the name of the damn movie.
 

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Guess we’ve now reached the “You can’t triple stamp a double stamp!” phase of the proceedings.
 

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I think the point is, why make a point to take it out?

It doesn’t make any sense other than they were trying to not offend someone.

Why would making the movie historically accurate offend anyone?
It wouldn’t take away from the movie being abt Neil Armstrong.

Again, to be clear of my point, what was the point of taking the flag out of the movie?
 

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I think the point is, why make a point to take it out?
Exactly. The planting the flag on the mooon is one of the most iconic images of the 20th Century. You can't make a movie about landing on the moon and just leave that out.
 

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Exactly. The planting the flag on the mooon is one of the most iconic images of the 20th Century. You can't make a movie about landing on the moon and just leave that out.

Sure you can. Watch the movie First Man to see that it's certainly possible to make a movie about man landing on the moon without showing him sticking an American flag in the surface. The movie is called First MAN not First AMERICAN.
 
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