Football: Pete Fiutak's Mississippi State preview
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Let's be honest, we've been "rebuilding" or whatever journalistic word correlates with "sucking" ever since we lost Leach. In my mind, we're screwed for a multitude of reasons. Pardon me for being a realist this morning, but living in the basement these last two seasons couldn't have come at a worse time. The combination of having two HCs with no prior HC experience, annually competing with SEC-caliber NIL money, SEC expansion, and the transfer portal seem to all but solidify our position near the bottom of the totem pole.
As a lifelong MSU fan, I know better than to be optimistic about anything involving football. But this current landscape is heavily stacked against us.
Convince me I'm wrong.
As a lifelong MSU fan, I know better than to be optimistic about anything involving football. But this current landscape is heavily stacked against us.
Convince me I'm wrong.
The sunshine pumpers keep saying we have plenty of NIL money or whatever they call it now so why is winning 4 games an improvement. If there is a portal and we have the money what's the problem? Why do we only sign G5 guys out of the portal? Either we don't have the money, or the coaching staff don't know how to recruit out of the portal. It can't be both. It's one or the other. When guys can enter the portal twice a year you are no longer rebuilding. You are putting a roster together for the next season. 4 wins is unacceptable, and it means our coaching staff can't put a team together.
^^^ this.
I left out the recruiting bit, but yeah having competent staff that's capable of evaluating and successfully recruiting players is something I don't think we have at this point. And in an age where players are bought and we have $30-40M rosters out there, it's no longer rebuilding... it's outbidding. And I'm afraid MSU ain't got the warchest to stand toe to toe with even the mid-tier SEC anymore. Hell, even Vandy could outbid us if they really wanted to.
That's not even close to being true. You can debate how good they are but most of our transfers are P4 guys.
I'm on the fence here. If we win 4 but look like an actual football team instead of whatever sorry abortion we were last year, I won't be HAPPY but I will at least be content that we are headed in the right direction.
It's more than that. We've got one of the toughest schedules in the nation and virtually no shot at a winning season. Why would a guy with multiple P4 offers come here to lose more games?
We're doing alright in NIL. But that alone isn't enough. We've got to start showing some improvement on the field. We do that through better player evaluation in recruiting and the portal instead of trying to get into bidding wars for players who have better options available.
The problem we have is because of previous poor decisions (hiring Moorhead and Arnett), another quick hook with Lebby would seriously hamper our ability to hire the *next* coach. If you're a G5 coach with serious offers would you want to take job at school that has fired 3 coaches (excl. Leach) in 5 seasons?
Right and patience with Lebby is our only option right now.
To me, it's more about the improvements we've made on the D line. If we can get pressure on the QB, that will mitigate a lot of the issues at corner. If we can't, it will make it worse. It was a bit point of emphasis but it remains to be seen how much we've improved there, if at all.
I seriously believe we have to give Lebby 4 years. He has been successful coaching offense everywhere he has coached. If the Defense flounders again this year he will be forced to hire a better DC. I was happy to see Lebby hired as our head coach but he really disappointed with his DC hire.
We'll have a better idea in December whether Lebby is a decent coach or not. If he's not, we can't afford to keep him 2 more years.
We just signed a top 20 portal class. That's the level of NIL we've got. Problem is, that's the lower half of the SEC. We can have a top 25 NIL nationally and still be behind most of the SEC. So we don't have poor NIL, we simply don't have great NIL. We can win games with our NIL once this rebuild is done but championships aren't a thing for us without something else.
I looked up how many of the 33 incoming transfers were not from the P5. According to your post, it should be 33.
It turns out you are a liar or a 17ing dumbass. There are 12
Will Whitson Coastal Carolina - DL, Multiple P5 Offers
Jahron Manning ODU - S, Multiple P5 Offers
Fluff Bothwell S Alabama - RB, Multiple P5 Offers
Dwight Lewis - CB, Multiple P5 Offers
Jayven Williams Kennesaw - CB
Raishein Thomas NIU - DL
Nevaeh Sanders NIU - DL/EDGE Depth
Brennan Smith, OL UTEP - OL Depth
Colin Coates, DL Charlotte - DL Depth
Max Reese, TE E Michigan - TE Depth
Ethan Myers, Charlotte - Longsnapper
Cam Thompson, NIU - WR
So we have 4 incoming G5 who were highly sought after players, and 8 questionable/depth pieces. If one or two become a solid rotation players then that would hit the goal.
Again, no one wants to hear sunshine pumping about Lebby, this could be a rough year. But outright lying about what our football program is doing is lame. Stop being a loser.
Okay, it's the coaches, who are led by a first time head coach new to running a P5 program and who is learning on the job. Most unbiased observers think we recruited pretty well (top 25 class) especially considering last year's results, and that we will be better talent-wise across the board, although it may not exactly show because we have one of the hardest schedules in the country next season.
Feel better?
You are on the wrong message board. You can't handle SPS. Your feelings get hurt too easy along with that other guy. It's like you are Lebby himself or his wife. Which is it? Either way you have a ******. If state only wins four games and looks like crap it is going to be a long year for you on this board.
Edited to say: I hope I am wrong about this team, and they go out and kick ***.
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Ah so you get called out for lying and making up s h i t, so you resort to saying I’m sleeping with Lebby and his wife lol. Good one!
What was the stat in that article last week, something like 25 of our 33 that transferred out went to G5 schools? They may have come from a P4 and even played here at a P4 but they aren't P4 caliber players
Thats not what I said. I accused you of being either him or his wife not that you were having sex with them. Side not: I don't think you are him or her. We still have a G5 team until proven different. I hope they prove me wrong.
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Tennessee led the SEC in football recruiting spending in fiscal year 2024. UT spent $5.4 million and was followed by Alabama ($5.3 million), Texas A&M ($4.13 million) and Georgia ($4.08 million). Not surprisingly, Mississippi State anchored the list at just short of $1 million. The AL.com piece was derived from financial reports submitted to the NCAA by the league's 15 public universities.”
And we also supplement recruiting cost out of BC which comes from private donations that you don’t admittedly contribute too. So stop posting BS you know nothing about