Football season is setting up great this year

Coach34

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We have a high profile game to open the season- lots of national attention and a game in Texas for recruits to see
Now we have a Thursday night game that will get at least 3 times the viewers it normally would

You want to improve recruiting- this is how you do it...not to mention staying away from the 11am games
 

57stratdawg

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Agreed. I don't think losing to OSU is as catastrophic as some like to believe either.
 

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I think we can take OSU...and playing on Thursday for Kentucky gives us 2 extra days to get ready for SC and Spurrier

Some extra scouting never hurts
 

maroonmania

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We have a high profile game to open the season- lots of national attention and a game in Texas for recruits to see
Now we have a Thursday night game that will get at least 3 times the viewers it normally would

You want to improve recruiting- this is how you do it...not to mention staying away from the 11am games

The game in Texas won't do one iota for recruiting unless we win or have a VERY good showing and even then it will be negligible.
 

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For national exposure it is a good schedule. My only issue I see is its a long time in between Saturday home games w/this move. We get left with 3 Saturday SEC games. If 1 of those was to get the dreaded 11:00am kickoff I envision some angry folks. As far as recruiting footprint and tv views, this schedule is 10x better than last year
 
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I'm in the camp that opening at OSU is a huge risk. We will play to beat them; they will play to prove a point that they can knock the SEC down a notch. Every friend I had that is a fan of a non-SEC school--especially the traditional powerhouses--hates the SEC. They are sick of hearing there is the SEC and "everybody else" (even though let's face it--it's true...). I guarantee this is one of the top 1 or 2 games OSU has circled on their calendar for the year. We win--it's huge-- but it's also the first game of the year. 17 year old recruits might have an awful short memory about that, though at least there will be some name recognition beyond "landmass." If we lose close, it's break even unless it's costs us a bowl. In that case it's a disaster. Lose big, and drop SC in two weeks, and there is the chance the whole year unravels. It would not be the way I would have done it, though when the game was announced, they were something like 3-2, and didn't seem like as much of a threat. Now it looks like a huge gamble...
 

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I think we can take OSU...and playing on Thursday for Kentucky gives us 2 extra days to get ready for SC and Spurrier

Some extra scouting never hurts

Now Coach you're just being plain silly and you know it. That game is gonna be an anal raping on national TV. We should have played some directional college to have the sure W's and rest up to play those big boys everyone says Mullens has to beat this season or else he is a crap coach. It is crazy to actually play anyone in a state with 25 million people for exposure. Woe is us! **
 

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No one is stellar in their first game of the season. We just have to be more polished that Pokie State. They lost a lot of players and are minus at least one coach.
 

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I would imagine the top 2 OSU has circled is Oklahoma and Texas. We might be 3rd but probably not even third on their schedule
 

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It's been explained several times...but I'll try it again

Is the reward for beating them worth the risk for losing to them?

Our schedule has 4 gauranteed losses. LSU, Bama, USCe, and aTm.

Our schedule has 4 almost gauranteed wins. OOC, OOC, OOC, Kentucky

Our schedule has 4 toss-ups: @Ark (more than likely a loss), @ Aub (50-50), vs OM (50-50), and OK State (more than likely a loss)

We have to go 2-2 in our toss-ups to make a bowl game and only 1 of those 4 games is at home. Going 5-7 would have major consequences on our recruiting.

Scheduling that 6th win could keep the train rolling right along. Winning only 5 games creates a ******, ****** situation.
 

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If only, we could drop OSU and add Tougaloo. (How good is their band?) Then move that risky UK game to Sunday at 7am so nobody sees it in case we lose. Garth and Wayne would say this schedule was excellent. Maybe cap it all off with a New Orleans bowl vs a pitiful but less risky Sunbelt team.....awesome scheduling and season. *****
 

57stratdawg

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Adding a Sunbelt team and a trip to the Liberty bowl will not make the season less disappointing if we drop several swing games to SEC schools. If we go 2-6 in the SEC next year ill be pissed rather we backdoor a bowl game or not.

LSU isn't an automatic loss next year. They're losing a ton, and a lot of it is early talent too. They're going to be very young, and for whatever reason Mullen has done well against them in his career. They come to Starkville.
 

maroonmania

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Adding a Sunbelt team and a trip to the Liberty bowl will not make the season less disappointing if we drop several swing games to SEC schools. If we go 2-6 in the SEC next year ill be pissed rather we backdoor a bowl game or not.

LSU isn't an automatic loss next year. They're losing a ton, and a lot of it is early talent too. They're going to be very young, and for whatever reason Mullen has done well against them in his career. They come to Starkville.

Well it would make it somewhat less disappointing. Going to the MCB in 2011 and winning to go 7-6 was a heck of a lot better than if we had stayed at home at 5-7.
 

maroonmania

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Is the reward for beating them worth the risk for losing to them?

Our schedule has 4 gauranteed losses. LSU, Bama, USCe, and aTm.

Our schedule has 4 almost gauranteed wins. OOC, OOC, OOC, Kentucky

Our schedule has 4 toss-ups: @Ark (more than likely a loss), @ Aub (50-50), vs OM (50-50), and OK State (more than likely a loss)

We have to go 2-2 in our toss-ups to make a bowl game and only 1 of those 4 games is at home. Going 5-7 would have major consequences on our recruiting.

Scheduling that 6th win could keep the train rolling right along. Winning only 5 games creates a ******, ****** situation.

Ok, just being honest, I would not agree with it but would still feel much better about the OK ST game if I had seen ANYTHING in the 2012 season that showed me we were ready to compete with a legit Top 20 team. Last year we essentially beat 8 weak teams and got waxed by the 4 teams we played that were high quality competition. We will have to make a drastic improvement from last year to this coming year to legitimately compete with a team that many are considering the Big 12 favorite.
 

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other than making it harder to get to a bowl my worry about losing isn't just...

the loss; it is the way we lose. If it is a hard fought game, we play well, and we just come up short then it really isn't that big of a deal. If on the other hand we come out flat,look confused on defense, and get blown out, then the loss could mean much more for our team and our season than not going to a bowl game.

I do agree with the idea that this is a lot of exposure in a huge recruiting state and that it is great to be getting a pay day as well.
 

57stratdawg

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Well it would make it somewhat less disappointing. Going to the MCB in 2011 and winning to go 7-6 was a heck of a lot better than if we had stayed at home at 5-7.

I hear you. I just thought we were past where we were in 2011, we're not?

I think the days of a 6-6 MCB are probably gone since the conference expanded. Would a trip to the BBVA bowl in Bham take the sting out?
 

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I wouldnt count LSU as a sure fire loss either

Adding a Sunbelt team and a trip to the Liberty bowl will not make the season less disappointing if we drop several swing games to SEC schools. If we go 2-6 in the SEC next year ill be pissed rather we backdoor a bowl game or not.

LSU isn't an automatic loss next year. They're losing a ton, and a lot of it is early talent too. They're going to be very young, and for whatever reason Mullen has done well against them in his career. They come to Starkville.

they lost an insanely large amount of underclassman, and Mettenburger is an average to slightly above average QB. Combine that with the game in Starkville and we have a shot. I think our game vs LSU is an easier game than at USC or at Texas A&M.
 

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I'm just going to picture the OK State game in my head real quick.

Everyone just close your eyes and imagine watching Mississippi State vs Oklahoma State on your tv (or in stadium) playing in a nice NFL stadium on national television. Can you see us winning that game? Honestly, I can't.
 
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Coach34

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Is the reward for beating them worth the risk for losing to them?

Our schedule has 4 gauranteed losses. LSU, Bama, USCe, and aTm.

Our schedule has 4 almost gauranteed wins. OOC, OOC, OOC, Kentucky

Our schedule has 4 toss-ups: @Ark (more than likely a loss), @ Aub (50-50), vs OM (50-50), and OK State (more than likely a loss)

We have to go 2-2 in our toss-ups to make a bowl game and only 1 of those 4 games is at home. Going 5-7 would have major consequences on our recruiting.

Scheduling that 6th win could keep the train rolling right along. Winning only 5 games creates a ******, ****** situation.

I think the risk is indeed worth it.

The state of Texas has so much damn talent in it. And a normal 3-star out of Texas isusuallybetter than a normal 3-star out of Mississippi because of the competition they have faced as well as the offenses they have played in. If getting exposure there lands us 2-3-4 recruits the next few years- it's worth the risk. We shouldnt play a team like OK State every year, but once in awhile the exposure is great for us. If we get our *** beat then we need to figure out what we are doing so wrong,

Recruiting rankings the last 4 years (247 composite):

2010- State 30th, Ok State 33rd
2011- State 35th, Ok State 29th
2012- State 23rd, Ok State 36th
2013- State 24th, Ok State 31st


Also, Mullen has got to sack up. I'm a big supporter and everybody knows this- but that doesnt give him a free pass vs teams of equal talent. We need to be able to go on the road and beat an Auburn or a UPig next season. Unless we have a crazy amount of injuries like we did in 2011- anything less than 6-6 is unacceptable- especially if that includes losing to OM. That cant happen in Starkville.

Getting to a bowl is paramount for us, but we also have to get some exposure and do things like this if we want to recruit better- recruiting is not just a coach selling a kid face to face or a business transaction anymore.
 

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I'm just going to picture the OK State game in my head real quick.

Everyone just close their your and imagine watching Mississippi State vs Oklahoma State on your tv (or in stadium) playing in a nice NFL stadium on national television. Can you see us winning that game? Honestly, I can't.


Recruiting rankings the last 4 years (247 composite):

2010- State 30th, Ok State 33rd
2011- State 35th, Ok State 29th
2012- State 23rd, Ok State 36th
2013- State 24th, Ok State 31st

If Mullen's recruiting sux- what's does that say about Ok State?
 

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Definition of a 'Defeatest' ...

Crap, we can't possibly beat Okie State. We don't even have a CL beat writer. **

3-05-13 Will James ... "Can you see us winning that game? Honestly, I can't."
 

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We have our entire O line returning. Assuming those guys improve, which they

should, we should be able to run the ball on them and control the time. If we can do that, we can beat them.
 

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If Dan is the Man, then He needs to prove he can beat a Big 12 (No Defense Playing) team. Ok St , hell it should be Fun. let's sux it Up and play some football. If we are scared we don't deserve to go bowling.
 

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I'm going on gut feeling alone on this one. I'm sure I'll feel differently as the game approaches but those awful losses and how we looked the 2nd half of the season are still guiding my thinking.
 

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agree

Crap, we can't possibly beat Okie State. We don't even have a CL beat writer. **

3-05-13 Will James ... "Can you see us winning that game? Honestly, I can't."

some of you guys are a bunch of 17in pansies. This is all part of the plan. We Scheduled light to go to 3 straight bowls. It is now time to play a meaningful OOC game . In the past 3 years (counting this upcoming season)

-Ole Miss will have played Texas twice
-Kentucky will have played Louisville 3 times
-Georgia will have played Georgia Tech 3 times and Boise State once
-Florida will have played Florida State 3 times and Miami FL once
-South Carolina will have played Clemson 3 times and Navy once
-Alabama will have played Virgina Tech, Michigan, and Penn State
-Auburn will have played Clemson twice and Washington St
-LSU will have played Oregon, Washington, and TCU
-Missouri will have played Arizona St twice and Indiana
-Texas A&M will have played Arkansas twice (as a non conference opponent)
-Arkansas will have played Rutgers twice and Texas A&M once (when they were as non conferecne opponent)
- Vanderbilt will have played UConn, Wake Forest twice, and Northwestern
- Tennessee will have played Orgeon, NC State, and Cinncinati

while lil ol' Miss St is just now about to play there first nonconference BCS opponent in 4 years and people are absolutely freaking out. We need to scheudle a little lighter than everyone else. But every now and then we need to play a meaningful nonconference BCS opponent like this. I think some of you would just rather us join the Sun Belt or SWAC and play South Alabama or Alcorn State every weekend. Also, this game is NOT a home and home and a one time deal which works even better in our favor and avoids us of possibly losing to Okla State two years in a row, which is great. This game NEEDS to be played.
 
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Serious question: what is our best record with a returning senior starting qb? I think we're more cursed by that than the injuns.
 

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Serious question: what is our best record with a returning senior starting qb? I think we're more cursed by that than the injuns.

Threadgill? Losing season
Bond? Losing season
Smith? Cant remember
Madkin? Losing season
Shell? Losing season
Fant? Losing season
Relf? 7-6
Tyson Lee? Losing season
Felker? Bowl game I'm pretty sure
Sleepy? ACL blowout
Derrick Taite- bowl game

Not alot of success with Sr QB's
 

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I think the risk is indeed worth it.

Also, Mullen has got to sack up. .

I'd like to see our fans do this as well. The best argument for the 4 patsies is the increased chance of the December practices, not the bowl game. However the decreased chances of EVER being taken seriously for a BCS bowl game in case we upset a couple of teams is more than unacceptable. It's downright chickenshit.
 

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Exactly. I hope I never have to depend on some of these posters in a bar fight.. They'll be running for the 17'n hills.

I think the OkState game will be similar to our last game against Houston (a win). I also think we can take LSU and USCe. Outside of the Georgia game, I wasn't impressed with USCe at all last year. They struggled to beat UK and Vandy (although a solid Vandy team), then struggled for three quarters against Furman. We can hang.

Trust me, our players haven't forgotten the egg bowl. I think it'll be a fun season.
 

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17 ok state! We play in the sec! Why are we scared to play these guys? We've got our whole ol back and some nice rbs. I think we're gonna ram it down their throats and make them like it. State 31 Osu 20
 

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My Gosh, OK State is not Bama, Auburn, A&M, LS&U, Ark, Fla., TN, or UM. I don't know if they would beat Vandy (we can't). Your boys have just got to go take care of business. State should win!!! Mulliin would not have scheduled them for an oc game if he thought state would get beat. DOG UP!
BTW: THEIR DB COACH LEFT THEM FOR THE "REBS."
 
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And the Blind ...

some of you guys are a bunch of 17in pansies. This is all part of the plan. We Scheduled light to go to 3 straight bowls. It is now time to play a meaningful OOC game .

will lead the Blind.

YOU missed the sarcasterics there dipshit.
 

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It's definitely a schedule that a good team can make a run with. Easy games on the road for the most part, hard ones at home. If we've improved, that's how we want it. And we ARE improved.

I'll let other people discuss the benefits in regards to recrootin. I watched Ole Miss put on a fake show this year that could have won an Oscar. I'll just stick to the actual games on the field.
 

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It's definitely a schedule that a good team can make a run with. Easy games on the road for the most part, hard ones at home. If we've improved, that's how we want it. And we ARE improved.

I'll let other people discuss the benefits in regards to recrootin. I watched Ole Miss put on a fake show this year that could have won an Oscar. I'll just stick to the actual
games on the field.

I believe state has improved, but the question is are they at a level where they can beat a rebuilding lsu team? Or a very explosive OkSt team? Im hesitant to believe they can win 2 out of OkSt, Lsu, Auburn, Bama, a&m, and tsun
 

Railin Jemmye

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Taite went 5-6 got the hell booed out of him...but he did beat Alabama for the first time since 1980.
 

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Good God. Maybe we can get Tampax to donate to the BDC after they....

Read this pathetic thread. What have any of you seen that makes OKST a definite loss? We are a 17ing SEC team. The game is first on schedule. If Dan can't get them up for this game then it will be a long season either way.

We got rid of our main problem...... Chris Wilson. We all saw the difference that Collins made with play calling (Gator Bowl was all on TR). We are returning basically entire offense and majority of contributors on defense. We upgrade at LB with graduation of Cam. I honestly don't see where we will see much of a drop off in DB play. Why you ask? Because 17ing Wilson didn't even use the talent we had last year. We could have had Revis and Cromartie back there and it wouldnt have mattered because Wilson had them so far out of position they wouldn't have been successful.

I think we will be as good as if not better than every team on our schedule except A&M and Bama. Who's to say we don't go 10-2 and have outside shot at a great bowl game?