Football season ticket sales flat...
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Our sales are more about the opponents anymore. If we have a good season tickets sales will be a lot better next year.
That's the case for any school. The diehards will go to watch their team but all but a few schools will see a big change in their sales if they have a bad home schedule. You're right though we could have better sales next year if we have a great season but the opposite could happen as well.
If I read it right, and 5,000 more season tickets are sold before the season opens, then 2015 will match 2014. After 7-6, it's hard to expect must of an upward swing. And we don't have a Heisman candidate returning either.
If you win, they will come. That's the WVU way. And the national way.
Till the Mountaineers win a few national titles, Mountaineer Field will rarely be sold out for any games, let alone every game.
But I'll be there, because my alma mater is playing, and I've increased my donation by 30% from 2014. So I'm doing my part. Putting my money where my mouth is.
Now, bring on Georgia Southern, Liberty and Maryland and go 3-0 before the Big 12 buzzsaw part of the season begins!!!!
If you win, they will come. That's the WVU way. And the national way.
Till the Mountaineers win a few national titles, Mountaineer Field will rarely be sold out for any games, let alone every game.
But I'll be there, because my alma mater is playing, and I've increased my donation by 30% from 2014. So I'm doing my part. Putting my money where my mouth is.
Now, bring on Georgia Southern, Liberty and Maryland and go 3-0 before the Big 12 buzzsaw part of the season begins!!!!
That's great news. I read several predictions about our numbers declining and that looks to be off. I still believe we will see more people at the games as we make the game day experience better. Winning comes first but give people more reason to come and bring their families.
CFE..... ....I could be wrong but were you not last year at this time defending season ticket sales numbers??
..... Numbers that you just stated are similar to this years ....
..... Numbers that you just stated are similar to this years ....
Hell, I can't remember what I posted yesterday, at my age (82). I didn't think I was attacking this year's numbers, just saying that they were not down despite a 7-6 season. Which, I would think, would surprise most people. As always, good news for WVU is good news for me. I'd like to see sellouts at every game, but there are not enough me's who attend every game for that to happen.
Let's just hope Dana finally can get his act together, for my alma mater's sake.
Glad to see you got your tickets Cuyahoga...... guess we'll just have to speculate whether or not LowFat's have shown-up yet........ [banana]
There's no need to speculate ..... I didn't purchase any season tickets .
So what...? Is this where you pretend that it makes me less of an EERS fan ?
So what...? Is this where you pretend that it makes me less of an EERS fan ?
Have you been a season ticket holder before? If so what made you decide not to this year?
Go to southern WV and takes notes on the job losses, especially in the Coal industry. It has an effect on attendance when a choice has to be made on living and paying bills vs driving 2-3 hrs each way to watch college football.
For obviously more important reasons I hope the economy in WV improves. Lord help, we cant be ranked 50th forever.
For obviously more important reasons I hope the economy in WV improves. Lord help, we cant be ranked 50th forever.
Capito tellin' it like it is.......
http://wvmetronews.com/2015/05/14/c...-program-focused-on-economic-diversification/
The stupidity of the Obama administration is being realized..... but of course it'll be blamed on George Bush, Republicans, Fox News, Congress, the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" (whatever in the hell that is), or some other imaginary thingy that actually means nothing and plants a seed into the heads of those without a brain, etc, etc, etc........[smoke]
Unfortunately NOT EVEN CLOSE. There are counties in WV that are laying off Sherriffs Deputies & county employees due to lack of Tax Revenue from closing coal mines & job losses. People are hurting. One of those is Nicholas.
The further south you go, the problem continues and is getting scarier. Rumor is the county I grew up in will have to do a similar action that Nicholas County did by August. Btw Boone county had the highest average household income in the State amongst the 55 counties as recent as say 8 years ago. Population about 25k loses say near 700-800 coal mining jobs, it is going to hurt. It may be near 1000 by now. Too depressing to keep track.
There's not that kind of growth anywhere in WV to offset that kind of loss. No way.
On gameday Saturdays I79 use to be lke a parade route. I'm betting not anymore. At least not for a while.
I have read a ton of ignorant posts over the years. This one has to be in the top 5.
Wow, do you always attack people for sharing an opinion? The northern part of the state is growing and all I was trying to say is the attendance at WVU events may be offset by that growth.
Well thanks for the reply without an attack like I got from the other user. But as I explained to him the thread is about WVU tickets and I was addressing that and not the other problems we have in our state. If the northern part of the state continues to grow in population and that could lead to better attendance. Again that was my only point.
Well, put another way, you have absolutely no idea the scope of the COAL INDUSTRY........ there's one hell of a lot more to it than the miners. [smoke]
I can speak for people who considered the Expense of tickets, hotel, travel, etc and the Produuct itself....Winning games Does a Lot for Attendence. That said, though....the average fan/family is being priced out.....doubt that changes anytime soon.
Bugg is right though, and being right matters....... [smoke]
Here's another's perspective, that my broaden your own Mr. Fox.
http://wvmetronews.com/2015/05/15/please-no-more-help/
Here's another's perspective, that my broaden your own Mr. Fox.
http://wvmetronews.com/2015/05/15/please-no-more-help/
As usual, this got far away from the original post.
But the figures do indicate that attendance might be the same as in 2014, despite the 7-6 record, so that's encouraging.
The economy only becomes an excuse when WVU isn't doing well. 10-3 and in the talk for a national title didn't cause attendance to go down; far from it.
There will always be people who can't afford it, or don't want to go. No knock on either group. But if you sell out Oklahoma and you don't sell out Maryland, then that's on the fickleness of WVU fans. Same distance. Same cost. Different attendance figures.
But the figures do indicate that attendance might be the same as in 2014, despite the 7-6 record, so that's encouraging.
The economy only becomes an excuse when WVU isn't doing well. 10-3 and in the talk for a national title didn't cause attendance to go down; far from it.
There will always be people who can't afford it, or don't want to go. No knock on either group. But if you sell out Oklahoma and you don't sell out Maryland, then that's on the fickleness of WVU fans. Same distance. Same cost. Different attendance figures.
CFE, I suppose I should apologize for simply posting in this thread. It seems at least one person (maybe two) in this thread can't help but to take jabs toward me.....thus, changing the actual topic.
On topic: I think WVU has found its baseline for season ticket sales. Not bad really (if we would take the time to consider all the factors). I wouldn't expect much of a decrease even if we have another losing season....and really a good/great season would see a large spike in sales imo.
Speculate much? You know there's no need for that...... [smoke]
What's good for one, is good for the other.......
What's good for one, is good for the other.......
Guess what caused this to happen...... [smoke]
http://wvmetronews.com/2013/06/06/wvu-bog-approves-tuition-hikes-pay-freezes/
That's what happens when a president and his administration stupidly go about checking off items on their political bases' agendas. Somebody gonna' pay......
You startin' to understand yet just what ole buggies was a little pissed about?
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Speculate much? You know there's no need for that...... [smoke]
What's good for one, is good for the other.......
I'm guessing that you think you're making a good point.
More speculation, LowFat? Hadn't it been established by someone, somewhere, that there's no need for that? [smoke]
You won't have far to look..... Here, relax and listen to one of my all time favorites.
Enjoy. [smoke]
Maybe WVU isn't doing as poorly as we thought. College football attendance is the lowest in FOURTEEN YEARS. So if WVU hangs in there at or slightly above 2014, more teams may slide behind the Mountaineers in attendance figures.
The Power-5 average attendance is 43,483 and WVU was 56,686 per home game, which is substantially above average but below the Big 12 average of 57,624. Kansas and Oklahoma State had the largest percentage decreases among Big 12 schools.
Texas was No. 1 at 94,103, then came Oklahoma at 85,162, Texas Tech at 58,934, WVU at 56,686 (4th among Big 12 schools), Oklahoma State at 54,387, Kansas State at 53,081, Iowa State at 52,197, Baylor at 46,710, TCU at 44,719, Kansas at 34,077.
WVU doesn't look nearly as bad when you compare other Big 12 schools. I know some had larger or smaller stadia, but we're still talking how many butts are in the seats.
More and more people are preferring to sit on their butts at home with their 65-inch TV screens. I will ALWAYS prefer being in Mountaineer Field. There's NO substitute for that experience.
But WVU can't afford another 4-8 season, not at this juncture. And it would help if the Mountaineers start 3-0 although that won't help attendance for Georgia Southern and Liberty, two non-Power 5 teams in a row. A bit much, in my opinion, if you want to put more butts in the seats.
In contrast, TCU has Minnesota, Texas plays Notre Dame and Cal and Oklahoma plays Tennessee, Texas Tech has Arkansas. Of course, when WVU played Alabama in 2014, it helped strength of schedule but it also added a loss to make it 7-6.
Let's hope two lesser talents can get WVU off to a good start, but then comes Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Baylor and TCU -- in a row! If WVU is 4-0 in the Big 12, it will be a stupendous year for the Mountaineers.
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I don't go out of my way to be rude to anyone. I just know what I see.
I hope the northern part of the state does do well and grow. It's going to have to be a boom town though to overcome the losses in the southern part.
Btw I'm not saying that's the only reason that ticket sales & attendance are flat.The biggest reason of all can be explained with just 4 letters HDTV. It has made the tv experience like never before. It has hurt attendance in every outdoor sport from Football to NASCAR.
HDTV hurts but the price of tickets is just as much to blame. I'm fortunate enough to be able to take my family to the games but many of my friends are no longer going because they were spending hundreds of dollars for one afternoon on entertainment.
WVU needs 50K+ butts in the seat for every game if the Mountaineers are to be financially successfully. There will always be people who can't afford it, no matter if the price is $4.95 per ticket (because they don't have gas money from where they live, for example). So WVU can only concentrate on those who CAN afford to go.
It costs me thousands every year for the 6 or 7 games, including gas, tickets, MAC, overnight lodging for late games, etc., but I still consider WVU football the greatest sports bargain in the world. And yes, if you CAN afford the costs, and are close enough to get there, and are not working 24/7, but don't, then you ARE part of the problem.
That isn't even up for debate.
It reads like you're confident yet you didn't offer an ounce of reasoning to support your opinion.
I will take a different perspective at it CFE...there is no denying the fact that 3xENG mentioned...the lure of watching your team on a 50" or bigger HDTV screen is huge today...I purchase my seasons, pay a sizeable MAC fee, and do so happily. Over the last few years I have experienced NO issue in selling the 3 games I cannot make (6 hrs away) for at minimum face value including the MAC donation (80 bucks or so)....I still as I'm certain you do, find Mountaineer football one of the BEST sports values around! If others don't see this I will not brow beat them for it however...I'm sure a few of them purchase the tickets I cannot use from year to year....
It may not be up for discussion in your world.... .....but in reality it's easily debatable.
For me money isn't an issue and I could manipulate my schedule to travel to Morgantown for Saturday games but I choose not to do it for most home games.. Why Not ? It's simply because the only advantage of attending a live game (in Morgantown) is the tailgating and that's easily cancelled out by a game party at home. I prefer watching the actual football game on tv.......imo it's a better experience and atmosphere than sitting on a bleacher bench. Now that's truly undebatable.....because it's my (and many others) preference...and a personal preference is only determined by a single person.
Besides....WVU (Big 12) doesn't get (or soon will) 20 million plus from the networks because of how many people attend games....now does it ?