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For all you "climate change" believers

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bamaEER

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Yeah, ummm, whatevs...
 
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JMichael

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As long as you don't care for your grandchildren you can certainly deny climate change.
 
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op2

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WVPATX said:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...g/news-story/99810c83f5a420727b12ab255256774b

http://www.newsofinterest.tv/global_warming/effects/extinction/coral_reefs.php
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So why do you even fight and bother? You think GW is not happening and it's obvious it's not and yet so much is against you. The scientific establishment (the minority of scientists that don't believe it excepted) are against you. The intellectual establishment (with some exceptions) are against you. The insurance companies are against you. The US military is against you. Most of the rest of the world is against you. And this is even though in your eyes GW is obviously not happening. That mean the GW believers are a conspiracy of literally global proportions. And on top of that younger people are more likely to believe it too so you've got time working against you too.

What is your goal in all this considering it's obvious that if reality is the way you say it is you are going to lose eventually? Why do you bother to fight?
 
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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
So why do you even fight and bother? You think GW is not happening and it's obvious it's not and yet so much is against you. The scientific establishment (the minority of scientists that don't believe it) are against you. The intellectual establishment (with some exceptions) are against you. The insurance companies are against you. The US military is against you. Most of the rest of the world is against you. And this is even though in your eyes GW is obviously not happening. That mean the GW believers are a conspiracy of literally global proportions. And on top of that younger people are more likely to believe it too so you've got time working against you too.

What is your goal in all this considering it's obvious that if reality is the way you say it is you are going to lose eventually? Why do you bother to fight?
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Obama was a true believer. Let's see now that we have a new President what happens to the alarmists. NOAA already been caught and also hiding emails. NASA is out of the global warming business as is the DOD. Not more acolytes to guide them. They left with Obama. The IPCC reported on the global warming hiatus. All the models of global warming were wrong showing ever higher temperatures.

We need far more actual evidence on man's role. Not nearly far enough along in this science (it is very young) and there is no consensus on the degree of man's involvement. The 97% study was thoroughly debunked years ago.
 
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op2

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WVPATX said:
Obama was a true believer. Let's see now that we have a new President what happens to the alarmists. NOAA already been caught and also hiding emails. NASA is out of the global warming business as is the DOD. Not more acolytes to guide them. They left with Obama. The IPCC reported on the global warming hiatus. All the models of global warming were wrong showing ever higher temperatures.

We need far more actual evidence on man's role. Not nearly far enough along in this science (it is very young) and there is no consensus on the degree of man's involvement. The 97% study was thoroughly debunked years ago.
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I don't know what you mean by NASA but I know the DOD is still in the global warming business as it was before Obama even came along. I doubt it's going to change now. Even if it did it would be at the behest of a POTUS that will be gone after eight years at most during which the rest of society will become more and more slanted towards believing GW and then the next POTUS would undo Trump.

How can you win this in the long term?
 
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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
I don't know what you mean by NASA but I know the DOD is still in the global warming business as it was before Obama even came along. I doubt it's going to change now. Even if it did it would be at the behest of a POTUS that will be gone after eight years at most during which the rest of society will become more and more slanted towards believing GW and then the next POTUS would undo Trump.

How can you win this in the long term?
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If the temps don't start rising (many scientists now believe we are entering another little ice age as the sun spots slow dramatically) many lukewarm believers will fall by the wayside. If the agencies like NOAA keep getting caught, their credibility will be destroyed. The EPA will now rely on real science, not science dedicated to alarmism. Times are changing.
 
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WVex-pat in GA

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Op2 said:
So why do you even fight and bother? You think GW is not happening and it's obvious it's not and yet so much is against you. The scientific establishment (the minority of scientists that don't believe it excepted) are against you. The intellectual establishment (with some exceptions) are against you. The insurance companies are against you. The US military is against you. Most of the rest of the world is against you. And this is even though in your eyes GW is obviously not happening. That mean the GW believers are a conspiracy of literally global proportions. And on top of that younger people are more likely to believe it too so you've got time working against you too.

What is your goal in all this considering it's obvious that if reality is the way you say it is you are going to lose eventually? Why do you bother to fight?
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He is heavily invested in future beach front property in Elkins.
 
DvlDog4WVU

DvlDog4WVU

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Op2 said:
I don't know what you mean by NASA but I know the DOD is still in the global warming business as it was before Obama even came along. I doubt it's going to change now. Even if it did it would be at the behest of a POTUS that will be gone after eight years at most during which the rest of society will become more and more slanted towards believing GW and then the next POTUS would undo Trump.

How can you win this in the long term?
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You mean the military is looking to gain more fuel efficiency for tanks, planes, ships, etc to further extend their combat arm and shorten their dependency on their supply chain and save 100s of millions of dollars related to fuel costs? Holy ****!!!! Someone alert Napoleon, Santa Anna, the Japanese, The Battle of the Bulge and Eastern Front, etc.

Ground Breaking Opie.
 
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op2

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DvlDog4WVU said:
You mean the military is looking to gain more fuel efficiency for tanks, planes, ships, etc to further extend their combat arm and shorten their dependency on their supply chain and save 100s of millions of dollars related to fuel costs? Holy ****!!!! Someone alert Napoleon, Santa Anna, the Japanese, The Battle of the Bulge and Eastern Front, etc.

Ground Breaking Opie.
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No, I mean the US military is proceeding on the assumption that global warming is occurring (probably because the current scientific consensus is that it's occurring).

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/10/14/army-braces-for-global-warming-impacts-on-bases.html
 
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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
No, I mean the US military is proceeding on the assumption that global warming is occurring (probably because the current scientific consensus is that it's occurring).

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/10/14/army-braces-for-global-warming-impacts-on-bases.html
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No, because their ex-commander-in-chief told them they must make it a priority. I believe the military will soon get back to its normal, primary mission. And thank goodness it will be rebuilt under the current president.
 
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TarHeelEer

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op2

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No, because their ex-commander-in-chief told them they must make it a priority. I believe the military will soon get back to its normal, primary mission. And thank goodness it will be rebuilt under the current president.
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W started it. Obama continued it. Trump will continue it.
 
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WVPATX

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Op2 said:
W started it. Obama continued it. Trump will continue it.
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I have read all about global warming under Bush Vis a VIs the military.. It was next to nothing. Obama is the alarmist he is the believer. He made global warming a priority for the military.

Now the military will get back to its basic mission under Trump. No more global warming hysteria out of the DOD. Retool and rebuilt.
 
dave

dave

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I hope they uncover the frauds who fudge numbers to get givernment grants and proceed to jail them all.
 
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