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Arivacalion

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Ram20 said:
I love manny and honestly, I disagree with a lot of posters, I think this will be a highly coveted job.....I just keep coming back to the idea of offense and qb development....it means everything in modern football.
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Which is why Joe Brady should be the next head coach..but the hire can't wait until February. Bielema. I am tired of 20 years being pushed backwards by these big ten teams
 
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Arivacalion said:
Which is why Joe Brady should be the next head coach..but the hire can't wait until February. Bielema. I am tired of 20 years being pushed backwards by these big ten teams
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Being pushed back from being selled out on won’t matter when you teach hot routes damm
 
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Is anyone watching the KC game.? Is 87 open cause he’s super young and fast or is he wide open cause Coach? A cause coach.
 
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Nittering Nabob said:
Hard no on Rhule. The B1G has already demonstrated that they don’t fear or respect him.
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You’re right he has to earn that respect. He gets Minnesota and Northwestern over the next two weeks, two games he should win. Let’s see if Rhule and Nebraska delivers.
 
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psu31trap said:
I agree that Matt Rhule would need some time but he is a much better head coach than he’s being given credit for and other than a 3 point loss to Michigan he has Nebraska playing hard. With a couple of lucky rolls he could get Nebraska to win 10, potentially 11 games and that means playoffs. Yeah he may be a slightly weaker recruiter than Franklin but he is a profoundly better game day coach. JMHO
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You are celebrating moral victories?
 
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Arivacalion said:
No. Also no to Dan Mullen and no to Manny.

Bielema. Cignetti is probably going to the final four at least and that's way too long to wait for something that's a pipe dream...

Talk to Urban and make sure he doesn't want back in the game then hire Brett and never get beaten like a step child at scrimmage again. I don't mind 10-2 or 9-3 but this has been 19 years of playing like females up front. NO more.
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Bielema? LMAO.
 
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PSU4U said:
I love the possibility of Cignetti but this might need to be a quick hire and it's not going to be an up and comer or a guy from anywhere other than a power 4 coach.
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Quick hire? No one gets hired until the season is over.
 
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Nittany18 said:
Frank Cignetti’s player will run through a brick wall for him. Most followed him JMU and say he is inspirational, that is exactly what Penn State needs!! I just don’t think they get him…I don’t think he feels Penn State is a better leap, and that sounds insane to me too.
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Penn State needs to recruit top 5. Players did anything for Franklin as well. Cignetti is not a top 5 recruiter. Folks are going to find it very difficult to replace Franklin. We lost portal players this year because of money. We played against a D lineman we wanted who's at Oregon. That was a big miss due to $$$. They're simply aren't many coaches out there of Franklin's caliber or above.
 
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KingLando said:
Minor bowl games...actually all bowl games...mean nothing outside the playoff
See what Cignetti did at Indiana. And he wasn't handed a QB because of ties to Indiana.
We aren't looking to build a program. We're looking to win titles. If we weren't a major program I'd agree with you. He'd be great at any program that hasn't won recently.
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Hotshoe said:
Penn State needs to recruit top 5. Players did anything for Franklin as well. Cignetti is not a top 5 recruiter. Folks are going to find it very difficult to replace Franklin. We lost portal players this year because of money. We played against a D lineman we wanted who's at Oregon. That was a big miss due to $$$. They're simply aren't many coaches out there of Franklin's caliber or above.
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Well I agree that moving on from Franklin was necessary but this thread demonstrates that the next coach taking Penn State to the Natty or actually doing better than Franklin is far from a sure thing.
 
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Bvillebaron said:
Well I agree that moving on from Franklin was necessary but this thread demonstrates that the next coach taking Penn State to the Natty or actually doing better than Franklin is far from a sure thing.
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It's a very small list. Just a bad situation all the way around. Urban is the only viable person I believe, and I'm not sure he actually wants to coach again. I really don't believe anyone else moves the needle from the past 12 years.
 
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donaldfair71 said:
I think, given the choice, I’d prefer skinny player football (whatever that means) over whatever it is I’ve been watching Penn State play the last 7 season on offense.
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As long as we get away from the statue QB and statue RB standing next to each other in the shotgun, with the D Ends collapsing on them at the mesh point, I'll more than welcome that change.
 
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We need a guy that can:
-Build a physical tough team that can win in the trenches on both sides of the ball
- Build a tough, hard nosed culture, not soft teams that are not mentally tough and fold in the clutch (huge Franklin problem)
-Be offensive friendly or whatever you call it but he has to be able to develop QBs and WRs. Modern passing game.
-Good recruiter. Does not need to be the best but not a train wreck. Remember NIL is a huge part of recruiting now.

Cignetti to me is # 1

That is probably a stretch. If that is a no-go then I like Joe Brady or Stein but I would be worried or at least question if they could deliver on my first two criteria.

I think the Missouri guy, Drinkwitz would be worth considering.
Not that excited about Rhule or Diaz.

Don't know much about the South Florida guy or the Vandy guy or the Kansas guy, Liepold. Liepold is only 4-3 so not so hot. Honestly is scares the heck out of me to hire another guy from Vandy.
 
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Munchak? Maybe Munchlax.


 
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Unfortunately, I can see the potential for a scenario to play out in which the next head coach will not be the guy who improves on what Franklin did, but more probably the coach after the next guy. If PSU hires Matt Rhule, then I think that greatly increases the likelihood of such a scenario.

He may have plateaued, but Franklin did a lot of good for Penn State, and it will take a very talented coach to improve on what he did. It can be done, but they are going to really have to hit a home run with this hire.
 
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CyphaPSU said:
Unfortunately, I can see the potential for a scenario to play out in which the next head coach will not be the guy who improves on what Franklin did, but more probably the coach after the next guy. If PSU hires Matt Rhule, then I think that greatly increases the likelihood of such a scenario.

He may have plateaued, but Franklin did a lot of good for Penn State, and it will take a very talented coach to improve on what he did. It can be done, but they are going to really have to hit a home run with this hire.
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Possibly. Better though, to swing and miss than stand there and keep taking strikes. And if you do hit one out of the park...
 
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At this point I will assume Cignetti is staying in Bloomington.In this order of likelihood based on the goal of getting to the next level, this is my list - Brady (really believe he is the clear number one), Stein (there is clear precedent for this working), Golesh (Cignetti potential), Campbell (more stability, potential to achieve more with the resources of PSU), Key (rising star, high potential, current hc experience so no training wheels necessary), Sumrall (rising star, if not this job will be in the sec next season), Diaz and Rhule (in both cases we are settling, but they do bring a stability in terms of likely 8-10 wins per year.)
 
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