For crying out loud...

ThePunish-EER

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MountaineerWV

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Again, libtards don’t understand the simple concept, we are all equal in terms of opportunity, however, we are not equal in ability. No matter how many times they attempt to even the competition, the fact is someone will always be better. Regardless of race.
Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.
 

oceantide83

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If you're hoping to be a diversity hire and nobody hires you, open your own business since you're so special. Surely people will flock to it.
 

bornaneer

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Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.
So you agree with Boston U offering therapy after a SCOTUS ruling ? If you do....should Boston U offer therapy to students that pay their way and students that are anti-abortion and had to live with the Courts previous pro abortion Roe vs Wade ruling ?
 

bornaneer

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Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.
I am all for kids from Appalachia getting special consideration and programs.......only one problem.....it would never happen. Case in point, the NFL and the NBA have spent millions and millions on programs for inner city kids.......show me one dollar they have ever spent for underprivileged kids in Appalachia.
 

ThePunish-EER

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Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.
Yes, I do believe the educational system is a failure. Not due to race, but due to Democratic leadership and failed policies. I do not believe in reverse racism against Whites as a solution to this problem. The solution is better policy, better education, and voting out radical and socialist politicians. Blacks are not held back from opportunity. They always have the opportunity to move and go somewhere in this country with better education and better job opportunities.
 

MountaineerWV

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Yes, I do believe the educational system is a failure. Not due to race, but due to Democratic leadership and failed policies. I do not believe in reverse racism against Whites as a solution to this problem. The solution is better policy, better education, and voting out radical and socialist politicians. Blacks are not held back from opportunity. They always have the opportunity to move and go somewhere in this country with better education and better job opportunities.
You misunderstand. Cultural bias is what I'm talking about. For example, certain words used in college I had never heard of or seen used before. It wasn't my teachers fault. It just wasn't how we (Appalachians) talked, we didn't use those words.

As for "they can always move and go somewhere else".......you realize it isn't that easy to just pack up and move? Costs a lot of money.

I don't think the "system" has failed. I came up through Appalachian teaching methods.
 

MountaineerWV

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So you agree with Boston U offering therapy after a SCOTUS ruling ? If you do....should Boston U offer therapy to students that pay their way and students that are anti-abortion and had to live with the Courts previous pro abortion Roe vs Wade ruling ?
Agree? Not really. But they can do whatever they want. Doesn't bother me because I don't go seeking help......I just vent and cope.
 

ThePunish-EER

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You misunderstand. Cultural bias is what I'm talking about. For example, certain words used in college I had never heard of or seen used before. It wasn't my teachers fault. It just wasn't how we (Appalachians) talked, we didn't use those words.

As for "they can always move and go somewhere else".......you realize it isn't that easy to just pack up and move? Costs a lot of money.

I don't think the "system" has failed. I came up through Appalachian teaching methods.
Actually, it is that easy to uproot and move. I’m from Appalachia. I grew up poor. I uprooted and left where I grew up. I didn’t have much except the college degree that I paid for completely by student loans of nearly $100k. And I’ve nearly paid that off. A person has to be willing to sacrifice, work hard, and take a risk. And truth is, a minority has a better opportunity to get a job than a white person with affirmative action and scholarships based on color. There’s also the military. And they will decide where to uproot you.
 

Mntneer

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Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.

That however is an issue of local education in general. The black students at my High School had the same teachers that I had, and many of them (most really) ended up going beyond High School just like the white students.
 

dave

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Not arguing against your claims at all. However, do you think there are cultural biases in educational opportunities through the elementary to high school years that (perhaps) hold certain kids back from achieving higher levels.....and without giving them an opportunity to prove themselves at a higher institution, would never get the chance because of this?

For example: Growing up and going to school in rural Appalachia, I didn't know until college how much I was lacking. It wasn't the fault of my teachers, because they were all from Appalachia too.

Don't take my reply as a slam against the Court ruling. I've never really been an "affirmative action" guy, but I do somewhat see the point.
There is a financial bias in America and everywhere else. If instead of affirmative action based on race there was opportunity afforded based on poorer kids from poorer areas I am not sure youvwould see a fight.