For the doom and bloomers on this board regarding AI, Immelt disagrees

WVPATX

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He is exactly right about the consumer driving the economy right now. We have to change that and get businesses back in the businesses of economic growth through increased productivity. We need much higher cap ex on the part of business. Tax reform and repatriation are essential.



“We’ve all been given this narrative about the dangers of technology. ‘If we come back to this room in 15 years, it’s all going to be robots,’” Immelt said at a recent Economic Club of New York event. “I think it’s such B.S.”

In Immelt’s eyes, technology won’t be replacing humans to get the same amount of work done in the same amount of time. Rather, he emphasized how technology helps to increase productivity and in turn boost wages. Work that could take days may eventually be done in hours or minutes.

He used a field services engineer working on a gas turbine in Texas as an example. By using technology such as virtual reality, that worker can obtain an immense amount of data and analytics right in the field. He added that employee could become worth $100,000 per year instead of $60,000 because everything can be fixed the first time correctly.

“Our vision is a digitized workforce that’s actually more valuable, not of replacing a million people with robots,” Immelt said. “I think we’re advocating for things that are going to make the U.S. more productive again because that really does support higher wages.”


How we get there
Immelt noted that two issues need addressing to bridge the gap between workers and available jobs.

“One is we have to continue to upgrade the skills of the workforce,” he said, pointing out that big companies like GE can afford to invest in apprenticeship and training programs.

“But the fundamental training that, let’s say, somebody that’s going to be taking a manufacturing job, a trade job, or service job, whether it’s high school or community college isn’t where it needs to be,” he said.

The second issue is investing in infrastructure.

“Let’s face it. We’ve been in an investment recession in the country for 15, 20 years,” Immelt said. “So the systems are old, the structures are old, the infrastructure is old. And so, if you put together meager education and bad investment, you get no productivity, and that’s where we are right now.”

Training and infrastructure are essential to increasing productivity, he argued.

“Productivity has flatlined. If we can get us productivity back up to 2 or 3%, that’s higher wages. That’s economic growth.”

All of this ties back to why so many people are into tax reform, he noted.

“Our economy is growing as fast as it can when the consumer is the only person pulling the wagon. So, if the consumer is the only person pulling the wagon that’s 1.5% GDP growth. If you can start getting cap-ex back in the system that’s a 3% GDP growth.”
 

WVPATX

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Does this clown have a job or is posting on here what he does for a living?

Actually, I am retired but manage investments. More importantly, why the worry? Just stop reading my posts. I thought Immelt's comment's were topical.

I realize libs have trouble reading things they don't agree with or goes against their liberal faith, so I would suggest for the sake of your heart and your sanity, simply block me.

The strange thing is that my post was non-political, it was Economic.
 

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He is exactly right about the consumer driving the economy right now. We have to change that and get businesses back in the businesses of economic growth through increased productivity. We need much higher cap ex on the part of business. Tax reform and repatriation are essential.



“We’ve all been given this narrative about the dangers of technology. ‘If we come back to this room in 15 years, it’s all going to be robots,’” Immelt said at a recent Economic Club of New York event. “I think it’s such B.S.”

In Immelt’s eyes, technology won’t be replacing humans to get the same amount of work done in the same amount of time. Rather, he emphasized how technology helps to increase productivity and in turn boost wages. Work that could take days may eventually be done in hours or minutes.

He used a field services engineer working on a gas turbine in Texas as an example. By using technology such as virtual reality, that worker can obtain an immense amount of data and analytics right in the field. He added that employee could become worth $100,000 per year instead of $60,000 because everything can be fixed the first time correctly.

“Our vision is a digitized workforce that’s actually more valuable, not of replacing a million people with robots,” Immelt said. “I think we’re advocating for things that are going to make the U.S. more productive again because that really does support higher wages.”


How we get there
Immelt noted that two issues need addressing to bridge the gap between workers and available jobs.

“One is we have to continue to upgrade the skills of the workforce,” he said, pointing out that big companies like GE can afford to invest in apprenticeship and training programs.

“But the fundamental training that, let’s say, somebody that’s going to be taking a manufacturing job, a trade job, or service job, whether it’s high school or community college isn’t where it needs to be,” he said.

The second issue is investing in infrastructure.

“Let’s face it. We’ve been in an investment recession in the country for 15, 20 years,” Immelt said. “So the systems are old, the structures are old, the infrastructure is old. And so, if you put together meager education and bad investment, you get no productivity, and that’s where we are right now.”

Training and infrastructure are essential to increasing productivity, he argued.

“Productivity has flatlined. If we can get us productivity back up to 2 or 3%, that’s higher wages. That’s economic growth.”

All of this ties back to why so many people are into tax reform, he noted.

“Our economy is growing as fast as it can when the consumer is the only person pulling the wagon. So, if the consumer is the only person pulling the wagon that’s 1.5% GDP growth. If you can start getting cap-ex back in the system that’s a 3% GDP growth.”

If they ever make Being Out Of Touch With A Changing World an Olympic event you're a shoo in for the Gold Medal. You're so consistent. No matter what the issue is you put the pedal to the medal in the direction of "CHANGE ISN'T HAPPENING, CHANGE ISN'T HAPPENING!" Guess what, the world is changing and it's going to continue to do so whether you or I like it.

Great, you found one guy that says change won't happen that much with respect to AI, now go do some research and see what a thousand others that study the field think.

It's amazing you how (correctly) say that making a $15 minimum wage for fast food workers would just put them out of work and then turn around and say automation won't take peoples jobs.
 

WVPATX

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If they ever make Being Out Of Touch With A Changing World an Olympic event you're a shoo in for the Gold Medal. You're so consistent. No matter what the issue is you put the pedal to the medal in the direction of "CHANGE ISN'T HAPPENING, CHANGE ISN'T HAPPENING!" Guess what, the world is changing and it's going to continue to do so whether you or I like it.

Great, you found one guy that says change won't happen that much with respect to AI, now go do some research and see what a thousand others that study the field think.

It's amazing you how (correctly) say that making a $15 minimum wage for fast food workers would just put them out of work and then turn around and say automation won't take peoples jobs.

Did you even read what he said? He did not say change is not going to happen and neither do I. Read the article again. He knows what he is talking about. And he is a lib so you should respect his opinion.

Jobs will change, technology among other factors ensures that. But other opportunities are created. Immelt thinks that technology will raise wages. You nor I have any idea what new 7th wave technology will create enormous opportunities for employment.

BTW, please provide even one post where I suggested change is not happening. You seem to tend to look at the negative side of change. Lost jobs. Destroyed climate. Destroyed government.

For example, if man made global warming is happening albeit more slowly than the scientists predicted, I agree with Freeman Dyson. Man will overcome with new technology in 50 years or so that will solve the problem so why destroy economies and transfer wealth for such a small outcome (changes in world temperatures).