Yea BRU, that's exactly what my post said. </insertsarcasticeyeroll> You are a very weird individual.
For those who said stiffer gun penalties, not laws is the answer
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If you look at the stats on stop and frisk, I don't think it's as effective as you might want. A ton of the S&F arrests in NYC were for small amounts of weed, amounts they wouldn't arrest you for if they happened to find them during a legal search of your residence. But, if we are arguing for effectiveness, we could couple S&F with the seizure of all guns. That would be VERY effective. It would also be VERY unconstitutional. We have rights, and less safety goes hand in hand with all of us having those rights.
As I said, I'm not for the violation of the 4th or the 2nd. As to the effectiveness of the S&F, I was more talking about the decrease in overall crime not necessarily the actual results of arrests made. It created a culture albeit through illegal means.
I will reiterate, I'm not in favor of S&F, I am in favor of Stand Your Ground, Castle Law, 100% reciprocity of CCW, and 100% "Shall Issue" with a caveat of a demonstration of proficiency of safety and marksmanship.
And I'm 100% supportive of a society where my kids could walk down the street and now panic because they see everyone packing heat and not knowing "is that the crazy guy that's going to shoot us up, or is it that one, or that one, or that one...."
Yeah, I read that, but my response didn't give you much credit for saying that you didn't support S&F. I was too high on my horse. I would apologize, but I don't want to rile up COOL MAN.
I'm not 100% sure about where I stand on stand your ground. I want logic to win out in most of those situations. The way I've always approached dangerous situations like that is to escape when escape is available and pick my spot when it isn't, and I've been in a couple of those situations.
I don't personally carry - partly because of some of the situations I've been in - but I'm not opposed to CCW. If you have a legal permit to do that, I have no problem with requiring other states to honor it. I think KS moved to a system where you didn't need a permit. I see no way for reciprocity to work with other states on CCW in that scenario, so I would hold to my rule - if KS issues you a permit to carry, Rhode Island needs to allow you to carry. If KS hasn't given you an explicit permit, RI doesn't have to allow you to carry.
Castle Law is a given to me. If someone is in my house without permission and poses a risk to me or my family, I wouldn't hesitate. On the street, I think I would hesitate.
And it's more likely that the "crazy guy" isn't open-carrying. Furthermore, the "crazy guy" wouldn't try anything with a street full of law-abiding citizens carrying. You should feel safe. I would.
This coming from you? Telling me how to raise my kids? One of the biggest Internet pussies out there?
F**K YOU.
