Lsu 2 Bama 4 Ark 14 Vandy 15 UF 23 MSU 26 UM 28 KY 35 USC 39 AUB 54 GA 73 UT 204
Of note WKU 41 Oklahoma 11 UCLA 18 SELA 30 USM 33
Of note WKU 41 Oklahoma 11 UCLA 18 SELA 30 USM 33
For you baseball RPI followers, here you go.....
- Thread starter goldenwavedawg
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Lsu 2 Bama 4 Ark 14 Vandy 15 UF 23 MSU 26 UM 28 KY 35 USC 39 AUB 54 GA 73 UT 204
Of note WKU 41 Oklahoma 11 UCLA 18 SELA 30 USM 33
Of note WKU 41 Oklahoma 11 UCLA 18 SELA 30 USM 33
National Seeds
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1 LSU
2 North Carolina
3 Virginia
4 Texas
5 Alabama
6 Oklahoma
7 Arizona State
8 Texas A&M
Other Regional Hosts
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East Carolina
Oregon State
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Coastal Carolina
Clemson
UCLA
Florida State
Current 2-seeds
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Washington State
Louisville
Florida
College of Charleston
Stanford
Mississippi State
Southeastern Louisiana
Hawaii
Ole Miss
Wichita State
Southern Miss
Kentucky
Kansas
Appalachian State
Western Carolina
St. John's
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1 LSU
2 North Carolina
3 Virginia
4 Texas
5 Alabama
6 Oklahoma
7 Arizona State
8 Texas A&M
Other Regional Hosts
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East Carolina
Oregon State
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Coastal Carolina
Clemson
UCLA
Florida State
Current 2-seeds
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Washington State
Louisville
Florida
College of Charleston
Stanford
Mississippi State
Southeastern Louisiana
Hawaii
Ole Miss
Wichita State
Southern Miss
Kentucky
Kansas
Appalachian State
Western Carolina
St. John's
If we are still in this table heading into SEC play I might get overly optimistic. This week will show us a little of who we really are though. Time for the gut check.
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Goat Redux
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How can any of that even begin to be accurate, especially after the top 8. I just go back to 2006 when we were #1 for 2 or 3 weeks to open the season and then sneaked into a regional, courtesy of LT if I remember correctly.
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Goat Redux
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LSU 3, Bama 4, Arkansas 11, Vandy, 12, UF 25, State 26, UM 29, USM 32, UK 37, SC 42, Aub 55, UGA 73, UT 200 (6 spots ahead of Alcorn). They must be updated weekly because I could swear that yesterday we were in the 40s.
SELA 33, Mich St 77, WKU 41, OU 14, UCLA 17
http://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2010/rpi
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2010/schedule/Mississippi%20State
SELA 33, Mich St 77, WKU 41, OU 14, UCLA 17
http://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2010/rpi
http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2010/schedule/Mississippi%20State
topdawg said:
They have a bad coach. He has had some talent, but they have had losing seasons every year he has been there. If he does so again, and he is well on his way, I expect him to be fired.
Their coach is Todd Raleigh. They were pretty good with Rod Delmonico, but they need a nee coach badly. And you are correct- they are in worse shape than us.
They've already lost to Kennesaw State.
If we split with OU or UCLA it will not only help our RPI, it will help our confidence. It would be nice to get a "signature win" for our players. If we won both, we might even crack the top 25 assuming we also beat WKU and Texas A&M Corpus Christi twice as well.
He'd have a losing season then go to Omaha. Up/down, up/down. In 18 years there he only went to 8 regionals BUT he went to Omaha 4 times. Admittedly, his first few seasons only 48 teams were in regionals but still.
He's the poster child for strikeout/home run in the coaching industry. I've had more than one conversation w/ buddies comparing him with Bianco. Only 1 season of missing a regional for Bianco in his time at Ole Miss but no Omaha (in case you hadn't heard) but Delmonico has had some real crash and burn seasons that Bianco hasn't.
He's the poster child for strikeout/home run in the coaching industry. I've had more than one conversation w/ buddies comparing him with Bianco. Only 1 season of missing a regional for Bianco in his time at Ole Miss but no Omaha (in case you hadn't heard) but Delmonico has had some real crash and burn seasons that Bianco hasn't.
That's just the way the RPI works. And 2006 we got to what, 18-0? That wasn't a case of the RPI not working (we got voted into #1 in polls too). That was a case of maybe us overacheiving at first and then totally choking in SEC play.</p>
Fresno Bob said:
Some years UT was really good, and some years they were a team that really struggled. I don't understand that. Maybe he would get complacent after a good season, and then after a crash and burn season really pick it up. I don't know. And he was a really respected coach- and still is. He led the Netherlands to some nice wins in the World Baseball Classic. He seemed like a really random choice to be the manager for their team since he was one of the least qualified HC's- basically only college experience, but he did well.
I don't think he really compares with Bianco becuase Bianco is more consistent as a winner, yet he hasn't made it to the promised land so to speak. It's an intereseting debate though- would one rather win consistently every year and fall short, or would one rather have a losing season followed up by a trip to Omaha every other year. Personally, I would prefer the Omaha every other year route.
1984Dawg said:
was by far the most uncomfortable looking #1 team in the country. It was only a matter of time before they hit the wall.
We were ranked that high only because we were coming off of the SEC Tournament win in 2005, and I guess some of the college baseball people thought that we would ride that wave of momentum into a good 2006.
The real ***** about that team was they were the #1 team in the country, and then we had a huge lead on La Tech- and an average at best La Tech team at that- on the road and Polk leaves Mike Valentine out there to dry. He blew something like a eight or nine run lead. That was wrong to do that to any pitcher- to allow him to lose a game like that. You call in a position player to pitch before you allow a guy to blow a game like that. Someone can fill in the details because I have blotted out most of that game. It was wrong to do that to our team.
Then there was the Mayor's Trophy that we lost that year- the only time I have ever been driven to drinking after a baseball game, or actually in my life. We are losing 1-0 on a Zack Cozart home run at the beautiful confines of Smith-Wrigley. It's the ninth inning and we load the bases playing station to station. We have two outs, but the Ole Miss closer is on the ropes. We have Matt Richardson, a pinch hitter at the plate, and Jeffrey Rea- one of the best pure hitters in MSU history on deck. The Ole Miss pitcher (Garrett White?) throws a pitch that was way inside that Richardson should have let plunk him. If he does, tie game with Rea up against a rattled closer. I think Rea wins that game for us in that situation with a single. Even if he doesn't, we go to extra innings. Instead, Richardson gets out of the way, and then on a 3-2 pitch, looks at strike three down the middle of the plate. Like he was shocked that he would get a fastball in that situation. The only saving graces to that game were Con Maloney comparing Smith-Wills to Wrigley Field and getting laughed at by all in attendance and David Murray asking Ron Polk after the game why we couldn't beat Ole Miss in the Mayor's Trophy after losing for the last FIVE years and Polk giving us a first glimpse into the future by yelling at him "This isn't football!" and storming off ending the interview.
Then for the coup de grace, we go to a regional in Clemson and don't do jack, everyone is ready for the season to be over, and on top of it all Ole Miss is hosting a SR. And then Polk wonders why everyone is so upset because "we made a regional." We went from #1 to just making a regional.
Anyway those were my top moments from 2006 MSU baseball.
...I think most, knowing what we know now, would choose that as well...except maybe theOxford merchants.I'm pretty sure I would. I went through enough up and down during theGibbs era going to old Swayze. I would darn sure swap some losing seasonsthe last 10 years for a couple of Omaha trips.Todd4State said:
We had them 2 outs and nobody on with a 6 run lead... and lost. Whenever someone says we have a game won, I remind them we are M-State and then bring up this game.
Here's the play-by-play (I couldn't finish reading it, I got too pissed off):
Louisiana Tech 9th - Bratton to rf for Flagg. Grunenwald to c for Boyce.
Grunenwald grounded out to p. Lacy pinch hit for Cobb. Lacy grounded out to ss
(0-0). Jones singled through the left side (3-1). Shaw pinch ran for Jones.
Bascle singled to left field (0-0); Shaw advanced to second. Kersten doubled
down the lf line, RBI; Bascle advanced to third; Shaw scored. Hamilton singled
to left field, RBI (0-0); Kersten advanced to third; Bascle scored. Valentine
to p for Wilson. Ramon doubled to left center, RBI (0-0); Hamilton advanced to
third; Kersten scored. Tabor pinch hit for Thomas. Tabor walked (3-2). Winn
pinch ran for Tabor. McCarthy singled through the right side, RBI (0-0); Winn
advanced to second; Ramon advanced to third; Hamilton scored. Grunenwald
singled to left field, 2 RBI (0-0); McCarthy advanced to second; Winn scored;
Ramon scored. Lacy singled to right field, RBI (0-1); Grunenwald advanced to
second; McCarthy scored. 7 runs, 8 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB.
Here's the play-by-play (I couldn't finish reading it, I got too pissed off):
Louisiana Tech 9th - Bratton to rf for Flagg. Grunenwald to c for Boyce.
Grunenwald grounded out to p. Lacy pinch hit for Cobb. Lacy grounded out to ss
(0-0). Jones singled through the left side (3-1). Shaw pinch ran for Jones.
Bascle singled to left field (0-0); Shaw advanced to second. Kersten doubled
down the lf line, RBI; Bascle advanced to third; Shaw scored. Hamilton singled
to left field, RBI (0-0); Kersten advanced to third; Bascle scored. Valentine
to p for Wilson. Ramon doubled to left center, RBI (0-0); Hamilton advanced to
third; Kersten scored. Tabor pinch hit for Thomas. Tabor walked (3-2). Winn
pinch ran for Tabor. McCarthy singled through the right side, RBI (0-0); Winn
advanced to second; Ramon advanced to third; Hamilton scored. Grunenwald
singled to left field, 2 RBI (0-0); McCarthy advanced to second; Winn scored;
Ramon scored. Lacy singled to right field, RBI (0-1); Grunenwald advanced to
second; McCarthy scored. 7 runs, 8 hits, 0 errors, 2 LOB.
CuzDawg said:
Also ran off a ton of players through the years while at UF. That probably caused him to have some weird situations with the scholarships as well.
That's what "got" me when i saw the box score the next morning.First pitch swinging, and apparently, our pitchers never made an adjustment.
Pitchcount
1st hit 3-1
2nd hit0-0
3rdhit?
4th hit0-0
5th hit0-0
Walk 3-2
6th hit0-0
7th hit0-0
8th hit0-1
Pitchcount
1st hit 3-1
2nd hit0-0
3rdhit?
4th hit0-0
5th hit0-0
Walk 3-2
6th hit0-0
7th hit0-0
8th hit0-1
to hire the guy that UF got rid of to be our coach. I wanted Paul Manieri, and we would have probably gotten him as well.
So, yes LT royally screwed up our baseball program.
So, yes LT royally screwed up our baseball program.
there was no adjustments to be made... they sucked.
Funny thing this game got mentioned the other night when I was talking to our now "coach " who was in right field that night with the game on the line...
he still swears to this day he threw a bead to home plate and the runner was out but the ump called him safe due to the players and fan charging the field.
Weatherford was warmed up and ready to come in the game but we shut him down after we scored in the top.
No lead is ever safe at a MSU game or any game in my head after that night.
Funny thing this game got mentioned the other night when I was talking to our now "coach " who was in right field that night with the game on the line...
he still swears to this day he threw a bead to home plate and the runner was out but the ump called him safe due to the players and fan charging the field.
Weatherford was warmed up and ready to come in the game but we shut him down after we scored in the top.
No lead is ever safe at a MSU game or any game in my head after that night.
ScoobaDawg said:
would someone:
A. have the closer warming up with a six run lead to the point where he burns himself out to where he can't pitch.
B. Not have the closer warm up again when it became a save situation or when the situation even started to become tight.