It will be interesting to see what they come up with going forward for the Tour Championship/Playoffs. Lots of fun possibilities, but I'm sure it will be underwhelming.
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It will be interesting to see what they come up with going forward for the Tour Championship/Playoffs. Lots of fun possibilities, but I'm sure it will be underwhelming.
I actually like watching LPGA events because their game matches up to the way I play much more than the guys playing PGA events. I'm pushing 60 so I don't hit it like I did @ 20 or even 40. I look closely at WITB for a few of the ladies because my carry distances correspond closely to the longer hitters on the lpga.
Played three days in a row with most of it cart path only and my legs feel like spaghetti. I don't usually play if it is CPO but it was a tournament so I was obligated.
I’ll play. You nailed it. Women’s professional golf has a couple of problems. Some it can’t fix, one being similar to the WNBA, in that it’s average golf for good recreational men golfers. I covered the WNBA for two seasons in a former life (on the sidelines), and the best boys’ high school teams could beat a wnba team.
Another major issue for women’s golf is image and branding and marketability. Just look at the last names. I flipped to the AIG last week, saw the leader board, and changed the channel. There is virtually no one for viewers to identify with. Nelly is as close to Caitlin Clark as the LPGA has, and that gap is the size of the Grand Canyon. Michelle Wie was close. Paige Spiranac isn’t walking through that door, but that’s what the lpga needs because the level of golf is just subpar for the avid golfer to watch. I am also firmly convinced that the yardages for the women are inflated on TV, and if you watch a lot of the time the announcers won’t give you the approach yardages.
Wait…Isn’t this the same guy who was saying there was no way he’d pay the exorbitant price for Bombas socks? ;-)
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I know that companies entertaining clients at the Master’s spend that kind of coin. What’s interesting to me is that you can basically pay your way in to Augusta.
I am a banker. I went to the Master’s 20 years ago and talked with the guy from PNC in Pittsburgh. They have a house rented for the whole week, and bring in customers for two nights each. The later in the week the better the client.
so this has been happening on the corporate side for a long time. Interesting that they would publicly list this now for regular people.
I am a banker. I went to the Master’s 20 years ago and talked with the guy from PNC in Pittsburgh. They have a house rented for the whole week, and bring in customers for two nights each. The later in the week the better the client.
so this has been happening on the corporate side for a long time. Interesting that they would publicly list this now for regular people.
Oh, and we got behind such a terrible group at Mid Pines. They were terrible golfers, which I don’t care; I’m a terrible golfer. But they were slow as molasses. It was so frustrating. They kept shooting every pin with a range finder and then shank it 50 yards out of bounds. Seriously, you don’t need a range finder when you’re that bad.
To top it off, on a couple of holes that were cpo, one guy walks across the fairway to his ball, shoots the distance, then walks back across the fairway to get his club. And the green was wide open the entire time.
Unfortunately, frustrating crap like that takes me out of my game.
To top it off, on a couple of holes that were cpo, one guy walks across the fairway to his ball, shoots the distance, then walks back across the fairway to get his club. And the green was wide open the entire time.
Unfortunately, frustrating crap like that takes me out of my game.
That kind of thing is very frustrating. I try to have patience, and tell myself that the people are simply oblivious but sometimes I'm not so sure. We had a "great" experience last week where the people behind us were getting frustrated with slow play (understandably) and they would drive into us on the fairway when we were still waiting for the green to clear. It got pretty annoying when we are already frustrated with the slow play in front of us, then there's the THUNK of balls landing on the fairway right behind/around us.
I was with my 14 yo and tried to make it a learning experience, telling him to always to try to remember common sense.
You are better than me....if it was obvious you were having to wait and they still hit into you that would have been grounds to knock their ball back to them.
I think the guy surprised himself with his distance on the one that really annoyed me--I think I saw an "I'm sorry" hand wave (and to be fair, I'm inconsistent enough to have surprised myself off the tee a few times over the years). That said, he could've and should've waited a little longer. It was definitely close to being in "return to sender" range.
There is little to no chance just a good recreational golfer is playing at the level of LPGA players. A scratch club player would shoot 30-40 over or more in the ladies US Open. They play that at roughly 6500 yards and there is no way in hell the USGA is screwing with the yardages. The ladies had a dozen or so under par for that USGA event.
There is zero chance a male scratch club golfer will shoot 30-40 over on a women’s U.S. open course. Even over 4 rounds. Especially from 6500 yards. I play with some occasionally. And just pay attention to how little the approach yardages are given during lpga events. It’s noticeable.
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I don't have a problem with any of the guys on the top 10-15 of the leaderboard right now. Wyndam Clark is the first I'm rooting against. Matt Fitzpatrick I don't actively pull against, but there's something about him that kinda bugs me.
A scratch club golfer is going to average 75-76. That gets you to 14 over for 4 rounds.
Additionally, the scratch handicaps are determined for most of those guys not playing it down or putting it out. Nothing worse than double counts against them either.
Just their average score gets them halfway to 30 over before you even consider how their handicap was established or the playing conditions in a USGA event.
I think I read something on another thread about there not being one.
Thankful I'm not going crazy.
@LeoBloom - I tried to copy and paste something from one of your posts but it did not go well.
The most frustrated I've ever been on a golf course was watching some dude walk to his ball during COP then back to his bag for a club.
I would expect this from a D player in captains choice but a pro? lol
The stroke he put on that looked like he thought he was putting uphill straight into a 30 mph gale. He pummeled that
That is terrible. I’m awful but make every effort to keep pace of play up. I don’t look for balls more than a few seconds before I drop a new one. If I put 2 in the woods I drop around the green. If I launch a chip or bunker shot over the green I pick up and go back n to the next hole. I don’t line up a putt for 30 seconds to save my faux 110.
Just the idea of Kisner being a broadcast featured commentator is a fish out of water idea
Kis can’t be Kis in the prim and proper suit and tie world of major network TV. He’s stuck having to be a different person and…it’s awful
Plus, honestly…network lead analyst job should have a major championship on the resume requirement
Will be interesting to see how Fleetwood holds up tomorrow with Scottie lurking and Rose is trending up just in time for RC. Novak could lock up a spot with a top two finish
The fish out of water is spot on. I was absolutely one who thought “this is not going to work,” but Kisner is better than I had imagined he’d be and he seems to be settling in more every broadcast. He’s a “down to earth, one of us” guy, and that helps. He’s also very knowledgeable about the game with subtle humor (not Colt Knost “everything has to be a joke”). There are plenty of major winners who shouldn’t be close to a microphone.
Kis crushes it when he’s in an environment like he was with Smiley at the WM. I agree he’s getting settled but I’d let him be in almost like a Michael Collins role where he’s kind of out on the course in it while also providing analysis
Feels like a little bit of a stretch for the Tour but I think it’d be a good way to loosen up the broadcast a bit
Feels like a little bit of a stretch for the Tour but I think it’d be a good way to loosen up the broadcast a bit
