Which is horrible but it doesn't create a "boy who cried wolf situation on top of it all, like guilty until proven innocent does.
Former Duke player accused of rape.
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Which is horrible but it doesn't create a "boy who cried wolf situation on top of it all, like guilty until proven innocent does.
How do you know they're the victim and the government officials are guilty? What if the government officials are innocent that makes them the victim. Let's wait for some evidence first. Oh wait, it's been 20 years and there is none. She said vs he said.
I don’t blindly support anything. And I’d be willing to bet my life is better than yours. It’s obvious you’re a loser. You can’t see anything you don’t like and challenge your own beliefs or blame it on liberals. Your failure at life is on you not liberals.
The sure sign someone is a winner at life is they brag about being a winner. Rule #1. [laughing]
Oh tje stupidity in this thread. We have a fan base that has too many fans that are uneducated and throw politics into every f#×ck*+g thing
The evidence against the dude in VA is bad. So the victim seems to be honest here, so the dook thing at least has legs. But innocent until proven guilty
This has nothing to do with politics red necks!!
The evidence against the dude in VA is bad. So the victim seems to be honest here, so the dook thing at least has legs. But innocent until proven guilty
This has nothing to do with politics red necks!!
I would say less so than a guy who goes on a UK message board and turns a rape thread into a political statement.
Neither do very few false claims amongst countless real ones. It's the illogical people who are incapable of differing between the two who do that.
For years we heard how Joe Paterno & Penn State football, and Mike Krzyzewski & Duke basketball were the model football & basketball programs that all other programs should try and be like. WELL, WELL, WELL. How's it looking now? We all found out about Paterno & Penn State football. And now hopefully the world will see just what a rotten P.O.S. that Mike Krzyzewski is. Any son of a ***** (Krzyzewski) that would cover up a rape is as dirty as Paterno ever thought about being. This could be the beginning of the end for Ratface. The NCAA will never do anything to Duke & Krzyzewski. But these women's groups will crucify this little ratface bastard. Wonder what kind of a spin will ESPN try to put on this?
Moron? You just told on yourself. He's a Supreme Court Justice.....[jumpingsmile]
You seem to have trouble staying on point. So he should have to resign based on accusations but you also say both cases deserved to be heard.
Make up your mind. It was proven to be lies, you just don't to accept that they were. Nobody would come forward and support her story. No proof anything happened. No evidence. Exactly how was it not proven to be untrue.
You seen to believe both are guilty until proven innocent, that's not how it works.
Someone may have assaulted her but it wasn’t BK. The abortion loving left didn’t want him on the court that was well established long before she “came forward “ in the 11th hour. There was zero credibility to that allegation. Absolutely none. Besides how can you say most allegations are true if there’s no repercussions for lying ?
No strike three on you I didn’t mention a political party I said you’re a lib which you obviously are go ahead deny it
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I'm not getting political either but the reality for most people is guilty until proven innocent, especially those who lack wealth and power.
Edit-I'm not referring to sexual assault allegations because it's a mess right now. Hard to know who to believe. That's why I don't take sides on that issue.
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What should happen--do an initial investigation of the story. If there is any validity, assume innocence of the player and do a deeper investigation to find out as many facts as possible.
What will happen--sides will assume the story is a lie or the truth. People will argue over it, showing their bias one way or another, and in the end, nothing will be investigated.
What will happen--sides will assume the story is a lie or the truth. People will argue over it, showing their bias one way or another, and in the end, nothing will be investigated.
For the record, I am male.
Your stats on assault are like those of car wrecks, it's stated someone in a wreck has higher chances of being in another one.
No person has the right to touch a female ever without her consent.
You must be living in a very liberal world not to see some red flags here.
Just curious, does anyone else see a connection in all this and maybe she is from Virginia and now blaming a Duke basketball player?
In no way am I a Duke fan, but even us UK fans must admit what happened to their lacrosse team was just wrong.
My point was that too many people are coming out with accusations against others, whether it being an assault or racism but do not produce any factual facts to support their claims.
I witnessed a man who was a football coach get accused by a female of something that was a lie. She wanted to be part of the football managers team. He said no due to the fact he needed someone in the locker room. She got mad and accused this coach of wrong doing.
His wife had a breakdown; he was tried and sentenced in the media; lost his job and damn near his family.
Months later the girl told the truth; she made it all up to get even with him.
Since then, you have to show me something in the form of proof or I don't believe you. Period.
No sir. There is NO CHANCE Kavanaugh would ever be convicted in a court of law. Quit trying to muddy that Sht up. She is a liar, an activist, and a fraud. It’s easy to see if you’re not politically motivated.
This thread is junk. From multiple sides but mainly the Goodman brigade. You guys cause more division than you’ll ever know.
New flash.
Women are emotional beings. They are manipulative just like men if not more. Women will lie about rape and to pretend they don’t does a disservice to real victims. And those of you who push false scandals in hopes of political points, you’re nearly on level with the rapist, just know it.
Check out the many liars during the Holdsclaw case. Now maybe he did use his power to sexually assault, but there is ironclad proof of several of those women lying through their teeth and some of those were STILL believed because of activist pressure.
Some of you need to stop pretending you’re actually in the pursuit of justice. You’re in the pursuit of something else entirely.
I think these terms are used too generally.
“Liberals” don’t even really exist anymore. Not true liberals. They allowed the platform to be transformed and stood by while it went for the worst. You’ve essentially got.
1. NeoLiberals
2. Progressives.
These are the main players. And I’m sorry but as a constitutional person who doesn’t identify as republican or Democrat, they suck and yes many lives have been destroyed because of the ideology run amok.
I’m not a fan of hardened political ideologies, but the one that supports communism-lite policy, abortion up to and beyond brith, identity politics, an unassimilated electorate, while holding malintent toward the constitution are the ones I will choose to stay away from. They also are far more oppressive about their “religion”, the belief in unsettled science and state sanctioned utopias. Also might want to check the CCapitslism that’s out of control through that platform funded by the wealthiest around. It’s essentially the people of power and their platform today.
I’ll disagree that they are both the same to the same degree and that modern leftist practice has held no part in the issues of today, namely unassimilated issues that lead to bitterness of many groups of people that doesn’t help at all.
Still prayin for u man let me know when you hear something.
Women really don't lie very often about being forcibly raped.
Until very recently it was also very commom for college women to not report rapes by male students. This woman says she went to the Dean and was brushed off. That was also pretty common until recently. In 1999 it's absolutely likely she was raped and nothing was done. She doesn't have much to gain now by coming forward with these accusations if they are false. She felt she could corroborate the behavior of Justin Fairfax and felt a responsibility to do that. He was about to skate with one sexual assault charge and she did not think that was right.
And yes I do have personal experience in this area. All Im gonna say.
Until very recently it was also very commom for college women to not report rapes by male students. This woman says she went to the Dean and was brushed off. That was also pretty common until recently. In 1999 it's absolutely likely she was raped and nothing was done. She doesn't have much to gain now by coming forward with these accusations if they are false. She felt she could corroborate the behavior of Justin Fairfax and felt a responsibility to do that. He was about to skate with one sexual assault charge and she did not think that was right.
And yes I do have personal experience in this area. All Im gonna say.
Terrible for you. Men that assault make me sick. I used to do some plant work in my younger days (I’m 33). The outright sexual assault toward some of these women verbally made me not even make a move toward them. Just didn’t want to add on if that makes sense. And as a 90’s kid and someone who grew up in modern times, I’ll refrain from saying who the vast majority of guys who were verbally and physically abusive were. I get sick of political correctness determining truth from fiction.
I will disagree however about women lying about rape. People lie about everything. Lying is something moth genders do and it’s not more or less common on either side. I’m a guy so from my perspective women tend to be a tad more manipulative, but that’s just an anecdotal and unpolitically correct POV I have from my 33 years on earth. Lol. I’m a guy shouldn’t surprise anyone.
I have a great example of many women lying about rape in the Holtzclaw case. One of them flat out told the detective even if he didn’t rape anybody there should basically be enough to cash in. It’s disgusting, it does happen, and there is no way to fully gauge it because people totally ignore it when it happens. Studies conducted by places like the BBC are a joke.
Women that lie about rape should see a prison sentence. Not for the protection of men necessarily, but to protect real victims. And people who don’t support that aren’t seeking justice, they’re seeking retribution or political points.
That’s my opinion.
Wow
Some of you guys truly have no clue about sexual assault and what the mindset of the victim is. No clue whatsoever. And I hope you never do. But don’t make assumptions and don’t put these victims in a box. Like those who grieve over the death of a loved one, victims of SA react in different ways. Try having a little compassion and understanding instead of shaming them because you don’t think they responded the way you believe they should have.
I will say that if this woman is lying I hope to God she’s arrested for false accusation and her life is made a living hell. There are too many people, not just women, who are victims of rape and who are scared enough to come forward. People who make false accusations make it harder for true victims to be believed
Some of you guys truly have no clue about sexual assault and what the mindset of the victim is. No clue whatsoever. And I hope you never do. But don’t make assumptions and don’t put these victims in a box. Like those who grieve over the death of a loved one, victims of SA react in different ways. Try having a little compassion and understanding instead of shaming them because you don’t think they responded the way you believe they should have.
I will say that if this woman is lying I hope to God she’s arrested for false accusation and her life is made a living hell. There are too many people, not just women, who are victims of rape and who are scared enough to come forward. People who make false accusations make it harder for true victims to be believed
Most people don’t lie about any crime. Doesn’t mean innocent until proven guilty goes out the window
I agree women don’t lie about forcible rape not all that often anyway. It’s groping and grey area stuff where there is lying and putting all forms of assault on level with one another. *** grabbing for instance on level with rape. Those things are not equal but there are a lot people who have muddied the waters screaming assault due to a a drunken grope. I’m sorry but those women aren’t even in the same ballpark as a rape victim.
I want to know who the player is personally even if allegedly. I mean it’s duke and all. There’s gottta be a unc grad ready to bring that program to its knees.
It’s the age of “my truth”. That’s why the gray area has been so exploited.
How so?
Yes. He is the LT. Govenor of a state. His job is to govern, not face and battle accusations of sexual assault. I have never said he was guilty, but the accusations are pretty damning. Not to mention both seem credible and have detailed info on both attacks.
Why would him resigning or not resigning have anything to do with the cases being heard and tried? All cases of sexual assault deserve to be heard in a court of law, for both the victim and the accused. That doesn't mean he just hangs out at LT. gov in the meantime.
Again, how was it proven to be lies or untrue? It never went to court or was tried. I accept that the senate confirmation, but they never once decided or ruled whether the charges were true or untrue. You might want to read up about it.
Not true at all. She had 47 senators believe her story, it only takes 1 judge or a few jurors.
A liar, an activist and a fraud? Really, how so? Where is your proof?
Really? What it my political motivation then? For that matter, what is my political ideology?
SO as a male, how much do you feel you know about sexual assault and rape? Particularly against females?
No, they are factual. It's not like getting in another wreck in your lifetime. If you drive enough almost anyone will get into a wreck at some point. They are accidents!! Someone that gets raped the first time is very likely to be raped again by the same person. They also have a higher likely hood of being raped by another person as well. And it's never an accident!
What red flags?
And, who are all these people coming out with these fake claims of sexual assault? Can you provide us some numbers of the amount of false claims to true?
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Those 47 senators didn't believe he at all. Purely politically motivated.
Her story was clearly not believable.
Allegedly, she and her best friend went to a party with boys who were not in their social circle. Conveniently Ford has no idea where it was or when it was. Her friend denied any knowledge of it.
Now at the party, she was allegedly groped and felt like she might be killed according to her testimony. When she was able to get out of the room and the boys and ran out of the house. At that point again she can't remember how she got home.
So where was her friend? She didn't run out with her and ask her what happened? Or she didn't even notice she'd left and later never never asked why she left. Remember they weren't with kids in their own circle.
This was obviously all made up. And again none of the 47 ACTUALLY believed her based on ANY evidence. This would never have been brought to a real court.
With the picture of his little junk that made the internet rounds a while back it would only be a misdemeanor instead of a felony.
Nothing to see here folks. This would never happen at a place like Duke...
https://deadspin.com/report-duke-coaches-administrators-ignored-sexual-***-1688875007
https://deadspin.com/report-duke-coaches-administrators-ignored-sexual-***-1688875007
That's strictly your opinion, not fact. However, even if it were true, could a judge or jury not be motivated by the same?
You may want to go back and read the facts and statements regarding the case. Leland Keyeser said she did not remeber the specific night or party in question, but that she attended many social gatherings and had no reason to doubt the Blassey-Fords claim and in fact beleived her. Why would she remember the party of nothing of conseqeunce occured for her that night.
Mark Judge was named as another attacker and Patryk Smith were named as another party attendee. Ford also knew where and when Judge worked. Judge and BK were best friends. That's pretty credible that she knew and had contact with the men invovled.
She knew a general time frame, but not specific date or address. This is typical of victims of trauma or in a state of shock. Not to mention over 30 years old. She knew a general location. Do you remember every location and exact date of things that happened to you 30 years ago?
She was more concerned with being attaked or raped and said she thought they may accidentally kill her. She provided very detailed info on the attack.
Why would her friend know or react ? She wasn't the one attacked!
Sure they were. There were a couple of new people, but they were among mutual friends.
Again, that is simply your opinion, not fact.
How many times have you been sexually assaulted. And, how did you deal with it and respond?
There is absolutely no chance Duke basketball player raped a woman. Unless you are talking about any one of the WOMEN'S Duke basketball players...then oh, hell yeah.
But the MEN'S team? Not in their DNA, unless she was face down, wearing a fake moustache and called herself 'Bruce'.
But the MEN'S team? Not in their DNA, unless she was face down, wearing a fake moustache and called herself 'Bruce'.
But why would a sensible woman report it, but report it to the Dean instead of the police?
Jesus, Hillary, you are wrong in so many places that there isn't enough space. You have given NOTHING but opinions right out of Feinswines ****** and the Democratic talking points. It was invented. All of it. Right down to the phony door story and her lying about not being prepped by Monica on beating a lie detector and her fear of flying. All ********.
You lost. Get over it. She's a lying shill. Just fact.