Former Duke player accused of rape.

[TheBigBluebowski]

Like I said, no person should ever touch a woman without her consent. Never.

Don't try and make comments trying to make me out of some male ******* who does not respect women.
Read my comments again.
I watched a person go thru lies about assault personally only to watch the accuser admit she lied.
This past summer/fall the whole country watched a man go thru hell accused of something that had BS facts all around it.
Just like when a policeman does his job, people rush to judgement; same as assaults; show me the facts so a sound judgement can be made.
There is a phrase in this country that means something to me; You are innocent until proven guilty.
That is something liberals do not understand.

You seem so confused. No one is putting words in your mouth or misconstruing your comments. That is literally what you wrote.

Also, I am not saying BK is guilty or not guilty. It was never proven that he wasn't. There was no case, there was no trial, there was no arrest.

Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a court of law within the government. Not public perception.

Again, I don't know the facts of the case, and if what you claim is true, then she needs to be held legally accountable for filing a false report and accusation. Not to mention your friend can sue for damages relating to defemation, slander, harassment and personal damages. False, cases are very rare though. Very few women want to live with the embarrassment and humiliation associated with such.

So you admit you're clouded and jaded by a deep rooted politcal idealogue that you allow to control your thinking?

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

On my God, now they will have to tear down another Confederate monument. This is General Lee's fault.

How so?

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

This isn't like sexual assault. You're not forced into or made to read it or take part.

Sarcasm. Just jiving you. I don’t give two *****. Carry on. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Sarcasm. Just jiving you. I don’t give two *****. Carry on. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

But isn't sarcasm suppose to make sense or have a point?

 

[KingOfBBN]

You seem so confused. No one is putting words in your mouth or misconstruing your comments. That is literally what you wrote.

Also, I am not saying BK is guilty or not guilty. It was never proven that he wasn't. There was no case, there was no trial, there was no arrest.

Innocent until proven guilty only applies in a court of law within the government. Not public perception.

Again, I don't know the facts of the case, and if what you claim is true, then she needs to be held legally accountable for filing a false report and accusation. Not to mention your friend can sue for damages relating to defemation, slander, harassment and personal damages. False, cases are very rare though. Very few women want to live with the embarrassment and humiliation associated with such.

So you admit you're clouded and jaded by a deep rooted politcal idealogue that you allow to control your thinking?

“It was never proven that he wasn’t.” Jesus. What a horrendous take.

You should probably be able to have a time period, the location of the house, actual memory, some type of actual proof you even knew the person.

“False cases are very rare.” Lol. ********. In today’s culture, people are desperate to be portrayed as “victims” because being a “victim” is valuable. You get to smear an innocent man with zero proof whatsoever after decades. You get magazine covers. You get millions in a GoFundMe. You get to give out awards. You get the media to pump you up and run cover for you. All while you get the privilege of destroying a man’s character, reputation, his career by simply making an accusation decades later.

Let’s not forget that Lisa Bloom got DNC donors to pay women to accuse Trump in 2016. That was proven. One even got her damn mortgage paid off. Six figures being tossed around to be political weapons.

And we are a nation that takes it very seriously and a claim would probably be more credible if you didn’t suddenly wait decades later to mention something for the first time and while also advocating for importing a real rape culture from the third world.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Also, I could name like 30-40 incidents of high profile false rape allegations.

Hoaxes and lies are committed all the times. We just had an actor in Chicago completely fabricate a story and the media ran with it like crazy and is now burying it as it started to fall apart with 24 hours.

Google Sharmeka Moffit to see the levels some will go to get the attention of being a “victim.”

 

[KingOfBBN]

Lol, maybe facts in your head. Unfortunately, in reality none of what you claim is at all factual.

She is a highly respected, educated and successful scholor, doctor, researcher and educator. She is also wealthy and highly regarded in her community as a person. She has been married 16 years, with 2 kids. Her husband and psychologist have confirmed she spoke of the attack several years prior.

What reason would she have to lie or go through everything her and her family have now been through? Use your brain and logically construct a rationale for why. Avoid plagarizing others words and thoughts and use your own. I am dying to hear this.

Haha. Dude, your thoughts were given to you by leftist media members. You’re completely incapable of deductive reasoning and logical thought which is why people like you are so easy to manipulate.

“And why would she like” is a ridiculous question. People lie all the time for the smallest of stuff. If you think women are incapable of lying then you’re dumb as ****.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

“It was never proven that he wasn’t.” Jesus. What a horrendous take.

You should probably be able to have a time period, the location of the house, actual memory, some type of actual proof you even knew the person.

“False cases are very rare.” Lol. ********. In today’s culture, people are desperate to be portrayed as “victims” because being a “victim” is valuable. You get to smear an innocent man with zero proof whatsoever after decades. You get magazine covers. You get millions in a GoFundMe. You get to give out awards. You get the media to pump you up and run cover for you. All while you get the privilege of destroying a man’s character, reputation, his career by simply making an accusation decades later.

Let’s not forget that Lisa Bloom got DNC donors to pay women to accuse Trump in 2016. That was proven. One even got her damn mortgage paid off. Six figures being tossed around to be political weapons.


And we are a nation that takes it very seriously and a claim would probably be more credible if you didn’t suddenly wait decades later to mention something for the first time and while also advocating for importing a real rape culture from the third world.

Not true at all. 30+ year old memories are forgetten, supressed or altered. Do you remember everything in detail fron that long ago? Have you ever been sexually assaulted or traumatized to know for sure how someone would react or what they remember?

Can you present us some factual numbers or evidence so support your fictitious claim? You're using the internet, so it should'nt bee too hard if its true.

You think admitting publicly to sexual assault gets you all that? Why don't you go out and speak with victims and see how much fame, glory or riches they got. You're to full of **** and ignorance. When were you sexually assaulted? How did you respond? What did you gain?


First off, that doesn't negate the truth of the claims. He's had countless claims of sexual misconduct, rape, and other allegations that have shown to be true overtime. Not to mention a tape openely admitting to assaulting women. Any group working to profit or exploit them and their stories are wromg to do so, but it doesn't change the fact women were assaulted.

Who is advocating for importing a rape culture from a 3rd world counrty? Could you provide proof or evidence of this accusation please?

 

[KingOfBBN]

Those 47 senators didn't believe he at all. Purely politically motivated.

Her story was clearly not believable.

Allegedly, she and her best friend went to a party with boys who were not in their social circle. Conveniently Ford has no idea where it was or when it was. Her friend denied any knowledge of it.

Now at the party, she was allegedly groped and felt like she might be killed according to her testimony. When she was able to get out of the room and the boys and ran out of the house. At that point again she can't remember how she got home.

So where was her friend? She didn't run out with her and ask her what happened? Or she didn't even notice she'd left and later never never asked why she left. Remember they weren't with kids in their own circle.

This was obviously all made up. And again none of the 47 ACTUALLY believed her based on ANY evidence. This would never have been brought to a real court.

You like how a guy who had been investigated and a respected person his whole life and career, fed the homeless on his off time (and we only know this because of people taking secret pics of him), was really involved in his daughters’ lives and coached their sports, was investigated by everyone- our FBI and a bloodsucking leftist media industry for months and all they could find was he really loved sports.

But wait...what’s this? Right before the SCOTUS is tipped in the favor of constitutionalists (a court the left has used to get their only two successes in decades-abortion and gay marriage), here comes a sexual assault allegation. Lol

So predictable. It would mean more if this isn’t doesn’t routinely pull this **** when they’re desperate- Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, Trump, Kavanaugh. Meanwhile, the same group runs interference and buries rape accusations from illegals, Keith Ellison, Bob Menendez, and Bill Clinton.

Just admit you’re a leftist beta cuck and stop pretending you’re some logical person. You’re not. You all like to smear people and not be required to back anything up.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Also, I could name like 30-40 incidents of high profile false rape allegations.

Hoaxes and lies are committed all the times. We just had an actor in Chicago completely fabricate a story and the media ran with it like crazy and is now burying it as it started to fall apart with 24 hours.

Google Sharmeka Moffit to see the levels some will go to get the attention of being a “victim.”

So name them. Give us factual numbers on the amount of sexual assault allegations that are false compared to real ones. I'll wait.....

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Haha. Dude, your thoughts were given to you by leftist media members. You’re completely incapable of deductive reasoning and logical thought which is why people like you are so easy to manipulate.

“And why would she like” is a ridiculous question. People lie all the time for the smallest of stuff. If you think women are incapable of lying then you’re dumb as ****.

This is where your argument falls apart. I'm not even on the left.

If it was a leftist thing, then why is the LT govenor of VA being asked to resign by the left? Why was Al Franken told my the left to resign? What about all the hollywood elite that are suppsodly on the left getting caught up in these accusations? This entirely crushed the leftist theory.

People lie yes, and some do lie about sexual assault. But very few. Which is why you wont post factual data to back-up your obsurd claims.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

You like how a guy who had been investigated and a respected person his whole life and career, fed the homeless on his off time (and we only know this because of people taking secret pics of him), was really involved in his daughters’ lives and coached their sports, was investigated by everyone- our FBI and a bloodsucking leftist media industry for months and all they could find was he really loved sports.

But wait...what’s this? Right before the SCOTUS is tipped in the favor of constitutionalists (a court the left has used to get their only two successes in decades-abortion and gay marriage), here comes a sexual assault allegation. Lol

So predictable. It would mean more if this isn’t doesn’t routinely pull this **** when they’re desperate- Clarence Thomas, Roy Moore, Trump, Kavanaugh. Meanwhile, the same group runs interference and buries rape accusations from illegals, Keith Ellison, Bob Menendez, and Bill Clinton.

Just admit you’re a leftist beta cuck and stop pretending you’re some logical person. You’re not. You all like to smear people and not be required to back anything up.

Lmao, Bill Crosby ring a bell? He was one of the most respected people in the world at one point. People csn easily hide who they are. OJ was loved and adored. BTK killer worked in law enforcment and was very respected in his community. John Gacy was well respected and performed as a clown to children in hospitals. None of the were expected of the horrendous crimes they committed. You honestly think BK couldn't as well? That's pretty naive if so.

Lol, then why did so many on the right say she appeared very credible and honest with an impeccable teack record as well? She had no histroy of false allegation or untrutha in her past? Why do you choose to only look at the past and credibility of BK and not Blassey-Ford? Could it be because youre biased? And could that bias be politically motivated? Perhaps by the right?

2 wins in the last few decades? You really might consider researching or at least reading. Hell, what about Obamacare alone? :joy: ohh, how I love to indigent minded.

How did they bury rape accusations against Bill Clinton. Those are pretty public. What about the ones on the left that the left is crucifying now? That seems to contradict your ammusing conspiracy theory narrative.

Here you go with that leftist safe zone again. :joy:

 

[homeytheclown]

Do you have evidence he didn't assault Blassey-Ford? How was it proven untrue?

Yep if you can’t prove you didn’t do it then you are guilty that’s how presumed innocent works .... idiot

 

[Big John Stud]

There is no rule or mandate about who you report things to. Lot's of people seek out other people in positions of power or leadership. Again, when were you sexually assaulted and how did you respond? What was going through your mind? Who did you trust talking to about it?

There is basic common sense though and I like to apply it whenever possible. Reporting a crime to a dream makes zero sense.

 

[homeytheclown]

Shut the f*** up. Honestly, just keep your trap shut if you're going to make fun of sexual assault victims.

Sexual assaults are also faked to destroy men but they don’t get victim status, the democrats knew about this all along , they don’t care about anyone but them self. They use victims to push their power grab, the sotu was indicative of that when the Klan feminists applauded only for themselves

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Yep if you can’t prove you didn’t do it then you are guilty that’s how presumed innocent works .... idiot

Where was it proved innocent or guilty? When was the trial? How did the judge or jury rule?

OJ was found innocent. Do you think he didn't really kill Nicole or Ron? What about Casey Anthony? Michael Jackson?

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Sexual assaults are also faked to destroy men but they don’t get victim status, the democrats knew about this all along , they don’t care about anyone but them self. They use victims to push their power grab, the sotu was indicative of that when the Klan feminists applauded only for themselves

Um, what are you talking about. Men in these instances can sue for slander, defamation, harassment, and personal damages.

Can you please provide stats for the number of falsely reported claims for ones that are factual?

 

[Big John Stud]

Just like the Rasheed Suliamon case where he covered up the rape allegations for 2 years then dismissed him from the team after it became public, Coach K is not gonna talk about this.

 

[Poetax]

These type of threads never seem to work out well.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Not true at all. She had 47 senators believe her story, it only takes 1 judge or a few jurors.

A liar, an activist and a fraud? Really, how so? Where is your proof?

Really? What it my political motivation then? For that matter, what is my political ideology?

47 Democrat Senators......hmmmm wonder why. Get a clue instead of swallowing the obvious lies that were told in this just because you don't like Kavanaugh. You're very obvious and I'm not wasting time talking to someone who refuses to accept the truth.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

47 Democrat Senators......hmmmm wonder why. Get a clue instead of swallowing the obvious lies that were told in this just because you don't like Kavanaugh. You're very obvious and I'm not wasting time talking to someone who refuses to accept the truth.

Because they didn't support BK. He is a republican, they are democrats, of course they aren't going to vote to confirm him. That has never been the debate. The debate was weather BK was proven innocent of the charges, which he was not. A: there were no charges. B: There was no trial. C: there was no verdict. So he couldn't have been proven innocent.

Also, there were several Republicans in the senate who said they found her very credible and honest, they just voted for BK anyway.

Why or how do I not like BK? I am fine with his confirmation. I am just stating the fact he was never proven guilty or innocent.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Because they didn't support BK. He is a republican, they are democrats, of course they aren't going to vote to confirm him. That has never been the debate. The debate was weather BK was proven innocent of the charges, which he was not. A: there were no charges. B: There was no trial. C: there was no verdict. So he couldn't have been proven innocent.

Also, there were several Republicans in the senate who said they found her very credible and honest, they just voted for BK anyway.

Why or how do I not like BK? I am fine with his confirmation. I am just stating the fact he was never proven guilty or innocent.

Yeah he was, you just can't seem to grasp it. They didn't just try and destroy him, they lied to do it. They lied knowingly.

There was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO evidence dude. Get a clue. Nobody could corroborate her story. Good grief. If you can't accept that's on you. She lied. She was used to try and block his appointment. None of them cared about her. None of them cared about the truth. Because of folks like you. Have a nice day.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Yeah he was, you just can't seem to grasp it. They didn't just try and destroy him, they lied to do it. They lied knowingly.

There was NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO evidence dude. Get a clue. Nobody could corroborate her story. Good grief. If you can't accept that's on you. She lied. She was used to try and block his appointment. None of them cared about her. None of them cared about the truth. Because of folks like you. Have a nice day.

Who lied? Can you provide prood of these lies?

So a highly credible doctor, scholor, educator and mother of 2 boys, with an impeccable history, who had mentioned the attack to her husband of 18 years and psychiatrist a few years prior, just decided to make all of this up, yet she conveniently knew where these men went to school; who he hung out with; where 1 of these men worked and when they worked there; gave a detailed description of the attack, the room and the men, and you somehow think she was making it all up? opcorn:

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Who lied? Can you provide prood of these lies?

So a highly credible doctor, scholor, educator and mother of 2 boys, with an impeccable history, who had mentioned the attack to her husband of 18 years and psychiatrist a few years prior, just decided to make all of this up, yet she conveniently knew where these men went to school; who he hung out with; where 1 of these men worked and when they worked there; gave a detailed description of the attack, the room and the men, and you somehow think she was making it all up? opcorn:

Yep. Anymore questions kool aid drinker? You likely believed Bill Clinton didn't inhale, That Liz Warren was Native American, and that Ed Kennedy once had a small car wreck.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Yep. Anymore questions kool aid drinker? You likely believed Bill Clinton didn't inhale, That Liz Warren was Native American, and that Ed Kennedy once had a small car wreck.

Well I can't say with Bill, I wasn't there. Warren is a crackpot, not sure why I would believe her. A women died in thay accident with Ted, so that is pretty disrespectful to insinuate it was small. I also didn't vote for Hillary if that was coming next.

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

Well I can't say with Bill, I wasn't there. Warren is a crackpot, not sure why I would believe her. A women died in thay accident with Ted, so that is pretty disrespectful to insinuate it was small. I also didn't vote for Hillary if that was coming next.

Thanks again for proving my point......[roll]

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Thanks again for proving my point......[roll]

There was a point?

 

[Cawood86_rivals]

There was a point?

Yep.....:airplane:....right over your head

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Yep.....:airplane:....right over your head

Riiiiigghht.....

 

[Kooky Kats]

Um, what are you talking about. Men in these instances can sue for slander, defamation, harassment, and personal damages.

Can you please provide stats for the number of falsely reported claims for ones that are factual?

Tawanna Brawley.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Tawanna Brawley.

Guess not, we will try again. Can you please provide stats for the number of falsely reported claims for ones that are factual?

 

[Kooky Kats]

Quickly, I named one case where a complete political fabrication was so crushing- it caused an innocent man accused to commit suicide...

Meanwhile, the ‘man-of-the-cloth’ architect of said fabrication is a tax-evading MSNBC tv host. Revisionist history gladly penned by the complicit press is a fascist weapon of tyranny.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Quickly, I named one case where a complete political fabrication was so crushing- it caused an innocent man accused to commit suicide...

Meanwhile, the ‘man-of-the-cloth’ architect of said fabrication is a tax-evading MSNBC tv host. Revisionist history gladly penned by the complicit press is a fascist weapon of tyranny.

Ok, let's stay on task and not go all strawman, ad hominem and conspiracy theorist. 1 case is not a stat, unless you are just saying there is one reported among all the factual claims.

What are the numbers for reported false sexual assault allegations annually? Is it large or small? Does it justify considering all victims liars just because you don't want to believe them?

 

[Kooky Kats]

Ok, let's stay on task and not go all strawman, ad hominem and conspiracy theorist. 1 case is not a stat, unless you are just saying there is one reported among all the factual claims.

What are the numbers for reported false sexual assault allegations annually? Is it large or small? Does it justify considering all victims liars just because you don't want to believe them?

Just saying that it is a proven-successful political tactic that can be waged through a complicit media. It continually forgives the left.

It is on task, on point. Game. Set. Match.

 

[TheBigBluebowski]

Just saying that it is a proven-successful political tactic that can be waged through a complicit media. It continually forgives the left.

It is on task, on point. Game. Set. Match.

That makes no sense if the guy currently going through these accusations is a black democrat? You do realize there are many democratic politicians, businessmen, Hollywood elites that have been brought down by allegation of sexual assault. Some fake, but most real. I'm not sure what factual evidence you have to suggest this is political tactics or political warfare. It's proven crazy and conspirator at best. Step away from the political propaganda machine and talking points. Don't be their sheep. You don't have to belong to either party, that is just what they want you to think. Think for yourself!!

 

[billCgmx]

Corey Maggette

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/sports/corey-maggette-justin-fairfax-duke.html

 

[DidneyWorl]

Future Lt. Gov in the making

 

[flacat22]

Oh did you? What about the rest of the audience the Yahoo article reached? Lance Thomas, Maggette, your scumbag coach has a long list of rug-sweepery. No one’s “thirsty,” just waiting for eventual shoe to drop.

Called it.

 

[KopiKat]

Fairfax just found himself with the best proxy protection a politician could ever dream of: accusation now shared by a former Duke basketball player.

 

[trav55_rivals214556]

So an intelligent woman who is the victim of rape would report the crime to the Dean of her school instead of the police? That sounds reasonable to you?

Also, are you even a woman or do you just like speaking for them?

I’m just playing devils advocate on here, so don’t shoot the messenger, but is there a chance she went to the dean because of the high profile of the person she was accusing? If it was just another guy on campus, sure, that seems odd, but a major nationally well known basketball player? I don’t think it’s completely out of question. Not enough to convince me it’s a false accusation.