Fortuitous transfer of Rudock to Michigan

Mr_Twister

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The intra-conference transfer of Rudock from Iowa to Michigan went quietly. What a fortuitous event for Michigan football. How many decades will pass before Rutgers is the beneficiary of an intra-conference transfer of an experienced Big Ten starting QB (or for that matter, any position starter) to their roster?
 

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The intra-conference transfer of Rudock from Iowa to Michigan went quietly. What a fortuitous event for Michigan football. How many decades will pass before Rutgers is the beneficiary of an intra-conference transfer of an experienced Big Ten starting QB (or for that matter, any position starter) to their roster?
They are all out to get us
 
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JQRU91

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Everything doesn't have to be tied back to Rutgers. Just let it go.
 

tico brown

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I don't like the whole grad student "transfer" rule to begin with.
This is the only reward the student athlete have compared to coaches who can leave their schools while under contract all the time. If the student athlete can graduate while still have eligibility, why not have the ability to go to another school, esp if the post grad major is different?
 
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So we had a four star recruit transfer in from the SEC!
Rudock's transfer was intra-conference. Most unusual. Rare, even in the case of graduate transfers. The Big Ten had to grant a waiver -- the conference had to approve it. Hard to believe the other conference members approved. Wonder if AD Hermann had a vote? Who knows, maybe Peppers becomes a "Rutgers man" once he has enough credits to transfer ;-)
 
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newell138

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we had an intra conference QB transfer from Minnesota, he never played a down. Yes I know we were technically not in the conference yet when he transferred.
 

Mr_Twister

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Btw. There backup would have crushed us as well
Rudock has played against other Big Ten teams, not just Rutgers. Rudock to Michigan was very, very helpful to a program that doesn't need extra help. Don't hold your breath for Rutgers to ever benefit in this way.
 

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Not experienced nor from the Big 10, but we have a pretty good transfer QB rotting away on the bench this season.
 

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Rudock sucked all year until he played us.

Until playing RU he threw for over 200 yards just once. Against us he threw for 337.
Until playing RU he had thrown for 2 TDs in 1 game out of 8 games. Against us he threw for 2 TDs
Until playing RU he completed 70+% of his passes in 1 game out of 8. Against us 72% completion percentage
Until playing RU he threw an INT in 5 out of 8 games. Against us zero INTs
 

Mr_Twister

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Michigan is 7-2. Typical free message board hyperbole. So he got serviceable overnight. "Sucked" is overstatement. The truth is on good teams the QB need not be a star to win.
 

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The intra-conference transfer of Rudock from Iowa to Michigan went quietly. What a fortuitous event for Michigan football. How many decades will pass before Rutgers is the beneficiary of an intra-conference transfer of an experienced Big Ten starting QB (or for that matter, any position starter) to their roster?

Rudock has played against other Big Ten teams, not just Rutgers. Rudock to Michigan was very, very helpful to a program that doesn't need extra help. Don't hold your breath for Rutgers to ever benefit in this way.
Michigan needed help because they botched their last 2 coaching hires. They shouldn't be in a situation, nor is it advantageous for them, to have a guy come in and need to learn the program, the offense, etc. for one year instead of having a capable starter on the roster. And that's all Rudock is, capable.

With very rare exceptions (Russell Wilson) there's not going to be a quarterback who is a difference maker, looking to transfer and not heading to the NFL. Michigan's situation gets murkier too because they have a new coach coming in, so everyone is starting from square one. But if Shane Morris was an average QB maybe Michigan beats Utah to open the season. I would never want my team to be in a position to need a grad transfer to fill the QB spot. I hope Ohio State never has to "benefit in this way".
 

DJ Spanky

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Michigan needed help because they botched their last 2 coaching hires. They shouldn't be in a situation, nor is it advantageous for them, to have a guy come in and need to learn the program, the offense, etc. for one year instead of having a capable starter on the roster. And that's all Rudock is, capable.

With very rare exceptions (Russell Wilson) there's not going to be a quarterback who is a difference maker, looking to transfer and not heading to the NFL. Michigan's situation gets murkier too because they have a new coach coming in, so everyone is starting from square one. But if Shane Morris was an average QB maybe Michigan beats Utah to open the season. I would never want my team to be in a position to need a grad transfer to fill the QB spot. I hope Ohio State never has to "benefit in this way".
Ironic that next year Michigan will have another transfer, John O'Korn from Houston, available at QB. You may remember him: he shredded us for 364 yards and 5 TD's back in 2013.
 

RBNY87

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I haven't heard of a Grad transfer being blocked even though they do need to get a release. It also doesn't seem that teams put restrictions on them. Maybe the fact that you are a graduate usually in four years, the NCAA wants to reward that. The trend in the NCAA is going to be more pro player and relaxing of transfer rules. So if you don't like the grad transfer rule, you won't like what is coming.
 

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Ironic that next year Michigan will have another transfer, John O'Korn from Houston, available at QB. You may remember him: he shredded us for 364 yards and 5 TD's back in 2013.
I have no problem with this. He's already there so he's got a year to learn everything without playing, and he'll have 2 years of eligibility beginning next year. My point was barring a unique set of circumstances (Michigan this year) or a really special player (Russell Wilson) it's not an advantage to have a one year mercenary at the most important position on the field. I want someone who knows the system and/or will be able to gain experience and give me a couple years as a starter.
 

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Ironic that next year Michigan will have another transfer, John O'Korn from Houston, available at QB. You may remember him: he shredded us for 364 yards and 5 TD's back in 2013.
You gotta be s----ing me.
 

Mr_Twister

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Ferentz blessed the move, so don't really know why anyone would be upset about it.
What??? ... Of course Ferentz blessed it. It isn't up to him to bless it, but the league's who needs to give it its blessing. Iowa doesn't play Michigan. Michigan is in the other Big Ten division. Rudock was passed up on the Iowa depth chart -- his leaving frees up a scholarship. Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland couldn't be happy about this God-send for Harbaugh.
 

Mr_Twister

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Sagarin has Michigan at #13. Not many teams can say they have Andrew Luck. Too many posters have Fantasy Football fantasies. Every player is not a star.