Fran gets T'eed up

airhawk

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I know Fran has the reputation for explosions. Someone smarter than me can probably research it but how many T's has he had this year? Ejections? Other coaches in the BIG T's and ejections? Other coaches in the country? I think we may be surprised. TIA
 

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First, as the announcers pointed out, Fran was right. That was a 10-second violation. No doubt about it. So, once again a coach is right and gets T'd up and tossed while the refs, who were wrong, go on about their merry way.

Second, the first T was for being out of the coach's box? LOL Every coach in the country is out of the "coach's box" virtually the entire game. Izzo is on the floor as much as most of his players. Collins was out of the coach's box multiple times, and he was livid and being held back by his assistants in Iowa City, and although he was given a T, he didn't get tossed, despite behavior at least the equal of Fran's last night. So there's that.

Fran is no different than the majority of college coaches in terms of his relationship to the refs during a game. Do you watch college basketball other than Iowa? But it seems Fran became an easy target early in Iowa City, and although he has generally restrained himself pretty well given the state of officiating, he is held to a different standard than Izzo, Howard, and most everyone else. If not, Izzo, Howard and many others would be tossed every damn game.

So rag on Fran if you want, but he was right last night, as he usually is. And whatever chance Iowa may have had ended right there. Instead of a 10-second violation, NW scored on a layup, hit a bundle of free throws and got the ball back, all because the refs couldn't count to 10. So it was about a 10-point swing in a matter of seconds. But no, refs don't decide games. LOL

BTW: If you want to criticize Fran, do so on his team's repeated failure to show up on the road. With the exception of Rutgers, the Hawkeyes have been pretty bad away from Iowa City. And last night, with second place and NCAA seeding on the line, the Hawkeyes embarrassed themselves once again. The Hawkeyes are still the only team Ohio State has beaten, and by 16 points at that, in its last 13 games. If Iowa isn't gonna give a better effort than last night and most nights on the road, they might as well forfeit and donate the money saved to the Children's Hospital. The players have to get themselves ready to play, but the head coach has to share some of the blame. It's just pathetic.
 
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I suppose technically it is within the side boundaries of the coach's box, but Underwood walks back and forth and is always about 2 to 3 feet on the court. Was there a Hawkeye who once threw a ball intentionally at a coach who was well onto the court ? I can definitely see Connor doing that :ROFLMAO:
 

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First, as the announcers pointed out, Fran was right. That was a 10-second violation. No doubt about it. So, once again a coach is right and gets T'd up and tossed while the refs, who were wrong, go on about their merry way.

Second, the first T was for being out of the coach's box? LOL Every coach in the country is out of the "coach's box" virtually the entire game. Izzo is on the floor as much as most of his players. Collins was out of the coach's box multiple times, and he was livid and being held back by his assistants in Iowa City, and although he was given a T, he didn't get tossed, despite behavior at least the equal of Fran's last night. So there's that.

Fran is no different than the majority of college coaches in terms of his relationship to the refs during a game. Do you watch college basketball other than Iowa? But it seems Fran became an easy target early in Iowa City, and although he has generally restrained himself pretty well given the state of officiating, he is held to a different standard than Izzo, Howard, and most everyone else. If not, Izzo, Howard and many others would be tossed every damn game.

So rag on Fran if you want, but he was right last night, as he usually is. And whatever chance Iowa may have had ended right there. Instead of a 10-second violation, NW scored on a layup, hit a bundle of free throws and got the ball back, all because the refs couldn't count to 10. So it was about a 10-point swing in a matter of seconds. But no, refs don't decide games. LOL

BTW: If you want to criticize Fran, do so on his team's repeated failure to show up on the road. With the exception of Rutgers, the Hawkeyes have been pretty bad away from Iowa City. And last night, with second place and NCAA seeding on the line, the Hawkeyes embarrassed themselves once again. The Hawkeyes are still the only team Ohio State has beaten, and by 16 points at that, in its last 13 games. If Iowa isn't gonna give a better effort than last night and most nights on the road, they might as well forfeit and donate the money saved to the Children's Hospital. The players have to get themselves ready to play, but the head coach has to share some of the blame. It's just pathetic.
I am not criticizing Fran. On the contrary I think he gets a bad rap. He started his time in the BIG with a few eruptions and carrys that reputation to this day. In my opinion he has settled down quite a bit. If someone knows the number of times other BIG coaches have gotten technicals and or been tossed this year , I don't think Fran is at the top of the list.
 

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I am not criticizing Fran. On the contrary I think he gets a bad rap. He started his time in the BIG with a few eruptions and carrys that reputation to this day. In my opinion he has settled down quite a bit. If someone knows the number of times other BIG coaches have gotten technicals and or been tossed this year , I don't think Fran is at the top of the list.
Seems like most of the time his temper is aimed at his team.
 

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It sure seems like the officials were out to "teach Fran a lesson" and "put him in his place" the moment he landed in Iowa City. Maybe it's because he and Margaret were both tossed from a game once. Who knows.

It just seems like he has a shorter leash than most other coaches do, especially when guys like Izzo are allowed to get away with things that get Fran T'd up.
 

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Fran never seems to ask for clarification or reasons for calls that go against his team. He is immediately red hot angry and is positive he has seen something that the refs have not. His attitude is not doing him or his team any favors.
 
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Fran is a clown. No reason to act like a complete nut job over a 10 second call in a blowout game. If Fran thought the 10 second call stopped a comeback then how does giving them 4 free throws and the ball help? Great decision to play man and have Rebraca hedging ball screens 25 feet from the basket. That led to at least 4 layups and a half dozen fouls on Iowa's smaller defender vs. their post.

That was Northwestern last night, not Purdue, Duke, or TCU that completely dominated the game from start to finish. The officiating had nothing to do with Iowa shooting 3-22 from 3. At some point one would think this veteran team would get tired of playing soft but apparently they are good with these horse bleep performances.
 
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First, as the announcers pointed out, Fran was right. That was a 10-second violation. No doubt about it. So, once again a coach is right and gets T'd up and tossed while the refs, who were wrong, go on about their merry way.

Second, the first T was for being out of the coach's box? LOL Every coach in the country is out of the "coach's box" virtually the entire game. Izzo is on the floor as much as most of his players. Collins was out of the coach's box multiple times, and he was livid and being held back by his assistants in Iowa City, and although he was given a T, he didn't get tossed, despite behavior at least the equal of Fran's last night. So there's that.

Fran is no different than the majority of college coaches in terms of his relationship to the refs during a game. Do you watch college basketball other than Iowa? But it seems Fran became an easy target early in Iowa City, and although he has generally restrained himself pretty well given the state of officiating, he is held to a different standard than Izzo, Howard, and most everyone else. If not, Izzo, Howard and many others would be tossed every damn game.

So rag on Fran if you want, but he was right last night, as he usually is. And whatever chance Iowa may have had ended right there. Instead of a 10-second violation, NW scored on a layup, hit a bundle of free throws and got the ball back, all because the refs couldn't count to 10. So it was about a 10-point swing in a matter of seconds. But no, refs don't decide games. LOL

BTW: If you want to criticize Fran, do so on his team's repeated failure to show up on the road. With the exception of Rutgers, the Hawkeyes have been pretty bad away from Iowa City. And last night, with second place and NCAA seeding on the line, the Hawkeyes embarrassed themselves once again. The Hawkeyes are still the only team Ohio State has beaten, and by 16 points at that, in its last 13 games. If Iowa isn't gonna give a better effort than last night and most nights on the road, they might as well forfeit and donate the money saved to the Children's Hospital. The players have to get themselves ready to play, but the head coach has to share some of the blame. It's just pathetic.
I believe they actually go by the officials count vs. the clock. That at least is true in HS, but think it is the same in college.
 
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I think coaches should get one challenge per half. That may actually save Fran's life. If he challenges the 10 second call...he wins and his heart rate doesn't skyrocket to 220.
 

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Fran never seems to ask for clarification or reasons for calls that go against his team. He is immediately red hot angry and is positive he has seen something that the refs have not. His attitude is not doing him or his team any favors.
He is demonstrative at times. Overall, the past 2-3 years Fran has been much more calm/sedate on the sidelines, which I thought had served him very well. And Iowa's performance the past 3 years has been good. There are times when a coach needs to get his point across or even get a T to either prove a point or stand up for his team.

The other night at Northwestern was odd. Team just did not play well. Iowa was not getting screwed, overall the refs were letting the teams play. Northwestern aggressively doubled the post and Murray/Rebraca both turned it over, and when they did pass it out to open 3-point shooters no one could hit anything. Not Iowa's night. It happens.

Getting tossed after the missed 10 second call made no sense. Yes, Green and Selks have been problematic reffing Iowa games. But you are going to likely see these guys again in future games. Why act like that? What is it proving?