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1. Until we get some offensive lineman that can block LSU and Alabama, we arent going to win these types of games. That was the biggest difference in the game- period. We can angle block and scheme most everybody else- but these 2 teams have alot of NFL talent on defense and more than anybody else. You cant mask your weaknesses against the kind of defenders those 2 teams have right now. They dont win 10 games or more every year for nothing.<div>
</div><div>2. Enough with the "Mullen cant beat an SEC West team besides Mississippi". 2009 was a rebuilding year. 2010? Mullen couldnt beat a top 10 team- because thats what the 4 teams ahead of us in the West were. Auburn this year is the first time he has lost a game he should have won. We had a ****** gameplan on D, and made some bad calls on the last goalline sequence. Let's remember he upset a Cotton Bowl bound Mississippi team in 2009. So he has won a West game he probably shouldnt have- and lost one he probably should have won. Mullen is 5-1 vs the East- or better yet- teams that we are on about equal ground with right now. Thats a much better judge of where our program is.</div><div>
</div><div>3. Anybody freaking out that we might finish 7-5 this year needs a reality check. Go back and look at our records from 2001-2009 and explain to me why 7-5 would be so horrible. SC is very beatable, they have been less than impressive- Georgia finds ways to lose...We can still be an 8 win team. Gonna be hard to beat Bama or UPig in R-Kansas, but I expect us to beat SC and Georgia. Losing to Auburn has screwed alot up- being 2-1 right now would have everyone feeling alot better. Hate we gave one away.
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</div><div>4. I told you the I-formation Tigers would be easier to defend than all that motion and **** Malzahn runs. We held them to under 4 yards per rush- thats a big positive. Wilson called a pretty good game last night- we had a couple of bad calls, but that is going to happen every week. Much better job this week by the defensive staff.</div><div>
</div><div>5. Our playcalling baffles me at times. Why cant we throw the ball when we are inside the 10 yard line? Makes no sense. Not getting TD's in our last 2 trips inside the 10 has greatly affected the outcomes of the last 2 games. We get 7 last night- and its much tighter in the 4th Q because of the momentum we would have gained.</div><div>
</div><div>6. Drops by Bumphis and Green last night killed us also. Bumphis was sliding and it would have been a good catch- but that is what 4* WR's are supposed to do. LSU's 4* WR caught his pass when he was sliding that led to their TD- we didnt. And Green's drop to kill a drive in the 2nd half when we had field position just cant happen. He's been very disappointing to this point in the season.</div><div>
</div><div>7. Why put in Russell? He is a dropback passing turnover machine. He's fine against Conference USA defenses, but this is the f*cking SEC. At least LSU was nice enough to get in the prevent at the end and not beat his brains in. Dont give me any BS about time to throw. When he had some time- he held the ball too long. He threw the ball up for grabs last night on his pick- you never want to see a QB do that. Relf's pick was the CB beating our WR to the spot- Tyler's was just thrown up there so he wouldnt get hit- huge difference. We lose 3 starters on the OL in December- if you think Russell is going to have alot of time to throw next year- you are living in a fantasy world. Dak- get ready asap please</div><div>
</div><div>8. Cam Lawrence is playing well. He is making the defensive calls, getting us lined up correctly, as well as playing out of position inside. I wish the other LB's were playing at the level he is. Wilson is just a little slow- he isnt bad- but just cant quite get there to make plays. Maye? Ugh. Bohana has some talent- his reads look slow- because once he starts moving- he gets there quickly- seems like a guy that needs to blitz alot.</div><div>
</div><div>9. Broomfield plays as soft as Grandmama's titties last night in coverage all game long- then decides he is going to jump a slant in the red zone. Seriously? They gameplanned the hell out of throwing at him.</div><div>
</div><div>10. Bottom line- we lost to the best team in the nation. They have the best defense, a very good OL, and enough skill people to win every game they play. Oklahoma aint beating that team. Bama may at home- but thats it. We improved on defense, in kick coverage, and made fewer dumb penalties. We need to get some guys on the OL well- and take down Georgia and SC- Georgia is reeling right now- and SC let E Carolina throw 31on them, and then needed 2 defensive TD's and a fake punt to beat Georgia- hardly top 10 work to this point. The team that played for us last night can beat SC in Starkville.</div><div>
</div><div>aGAIN- being a State fan isnt easy- and it never will be. 1 SEC West title in 20 years, and Mississippi doesnt even have one (losing the tiebreaker means they finished 2nd). Let's get revenge for Crooms 17-up, and then see if we can pull an upset on the road at Georgia. Chins up- at least we arent Mississippi</div><div>
</div><div>In Mullen We Trust,</div><div>
</div><div>Coach34</div>
 

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1. Until we get some offensive lineman that can block LSU and Alabama, we arent going to win these types of games. That was the biggest difference in the game- period. We can angle block and scheme most everybody else- but these 2 teams have alot of NFL talent on defense and more than anybody else. You cant mask your weaknesses against the kind of defenders those 2 teams have right now. They dont win 10 games or more every year for nothing.<div>
</div><div>2. Enough with the "Mullen cant beat an SEC West team besides Mississippi". 2009 was a rebuilding year. 2010? Mullen couldnt beat a top 10 team- because thats what the 4 teams ahead of us in the West were. Auburn this year is the first time he has lost a game he should have won. We had a ****** gameplan on D, and made some bad calls on the last goalline sequence. Let's remember he upset a Cotton Bowl bound Mississippi team in 2009. So he has won a West game he probably shouldnt have- and lost one he probably should have won. Mullen is 5-1 vs the East- or better yet- teams that we are on about equal ground with right now. Thats a much better judge of where our program is.</div><div>
</div><div>3. Anybody freaking out that we might finish 7-5 this year needs a reality check. Go back and look at our records from 2001-2009 and explain to me why 7-5 would be so horrible. SC is very beatable, they have been less than impressive- Georgia finds ways to lose...We can still be an 8 win team. Gonna be hard to beat Bama or UPig in R-Kansas, but I expect us to beat SC and Georgia. Losing to Auburn has screwed alot up- being 2-1 right now would have everyone feeling alot better. Hate we gave one away.
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</div><div>4. I told you the I-formation Tigers would be easier to defend than all that motion and **** Malzahn runs. We held them to under 4 yards per rush- thats a big positive. Wilson called a pretty good game last night- we had a couple of bad calls, but that is going to happen every week. Much better job this week by the defensive staff.</div><div>
</div><div>5. Our playcalling baffles me at times. Why cant we throw the ball when we are inside the 10 yard line? Makes no sense. Not getting TD's in our last 2 trips inside the 10 has greatly affected the outcomes of the last 2 games. We get 7 last night- and its much tighter in the 4th Q because of the momentum we would have gained.</div><div>
</div><div>6. Drops by Bumphis and Green last night killed us also. Bumphis was sliding and it would have been a good catch- but that is what 4* WR's are supposed to do. LSU's 4* WR caught his pass when he was sliding that led to their TD- we didnt. And Green's drop to kill a drive in the 2nd half when we had field position just cant happen. He's been very disappointing to this point in the season.</div><div>
</div><div>7. Why put in Russell? He is a dropback passing turnover machine. He's fine against Conference USA defenses, but this is the f*cking SEC. At least LSU was nice enough to get in the prevent at the end and not beat his brains in. Dont give me any BS about time to throw. When he had some time- he held the ball too long. He threw the ball up for grabs last night on his pick- you never want to see a QB do that. Relf's pick was the CB beating our WR to the spot- Tyler's was just thrown up there so he wouldnt get hit- huge difference. We lose 3 starters on the OL in December- if you think Russell is going to have alot of time to throw next year- you are living in a fantasy world. Dak- get ready asap please</div><div>
</div><div>8. Cam Lawrence is playing well. He is making the defensive calls, getting us lined up correctly, as well as playing out of position inside. I wish the other LB's were playing at the level he is. Wilson is just a little slow- he isnt bad- but just cant quite get there to make plays. Maye? Ugh. Bohana has some talent- his reads look slow- because once he starts moving- he gets there quickly- seems like a guy that needs to blitz alot.</div><div>
</div><div>9. Broomfield plays as soft as Grandmama's titties last night in coverage all game long- then decides he is going to jump a slant in the red zone. Seriously? They gameplanned the hell out of throwing at him.</div><div>
</div><div>10. Bottom line- we lost to the best team in the nation. They have the best defense, a very good OL, and enough skill people to win every game they play. Oklahoma aint beating that team. Bama may at home- but thats it. We improved on defense, in kick coverage, and made fewer dumb penalties. We need to get some guys on the OL well- and take down Georgia and SC- Georgia is reeling right now- and SC let E Carolina throw 31on them, and then needed 2 defensive TD's and a fake punt to beat Georgia- hardly top 10 work to this point. The team that played for us last night can beat SC in Starkville.</div><div>
</div><div>aGAIN- being a State fan isnt easy- and it never will be. 1 SEC West title in 20 years, and Mississippi doesnt even have one (losing the tiebreaker means they finished 2nd). Let's get revenge for Crooms 17-up, and then see if we can pull an upset on the road at Georgia. Chins up- at least we arent Mississippi</div><div>
</div><div>In Mullen We Trust,</div><div>
</div><div>Coach34</div>
 

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1. Until we get some offensive lineman that can block LSU and Alabama, we arent going to win these types of games. That was the biggest difference in the game- period. We can angle block and scheme most everybody else- but these 2 teams have alot of NFL talent on defense and more than anybody else. You cant mask your weaknesses against the kind of defenders those 2 teams have right now. They dont win 10 games or more every year for nothing.<div>
</div><div>2. Enough with the "Mullen cant beat an SEC West team besides Mississippi". 2009 was a rebuilding year. 2010? Mullen couldnt beat a top 10 team- because thats what the 4 teams ahead of us in the West were. Auburn this year is the first time he has lost a game he should have won. We had a ****** gameplan on D, and made some bad calls on the last goalline sequence. Let's remember he upset a Cotton Bowl bound Mississippi team in 2009. So he has won a West game he probably shouldnt have- and lost one he probably should have won. Mullen is 5-1 vs the East- or better yet- teams that we are on about equal ground with right now. Thats a much better judge of where our program is.</div><div>
</div><div>3. Anybody freaking out that we might finish 7-5 this year needs a reality check. Go back and look at our records from 2001-2009 and explain to me why 7-5 would be so horrible. SC is very beatable, they have been less than impressive- Georgia finds ways to lose...We can still be an 8 win team. Gonna be hard to beat Bama or UPig in R-Kansas, but I expect us to beat SC and Georgia. Losing to Auburn has screwed alot up- being 2-1 right now would have everyone feeling alot better. Hate we gave one away.
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</div><div>4. I told you the I-formation Tigers would be easier to defend than all that motion and **** Malzahn runs. We held them to under 4 yards per rush- thats a big positive. Wilson called a pretty good game last night- we had a couple of bad calls, but that is going to happen every week. Much better job this week by the defensive staff.</div><div>
</div><div>5. Our playcalling baffles me at times. Why cant we throw the ball when we are inside the 10 yard line? Makes no sense. Not getting TD's in our last 2 trips inside the 10 has greatly affected the outcomes of the last 2 games. We get 7 last night- and its much tighter in the 4th Q because of the momentum we would have gained.</div><div>
</div><div>6. Drops by Bumphis and Green last night killed us also. Bumphis was sliding and it would have been a good catch- but that is what 4* WR's are supposed to do. LSU's 4* WR caught his pass when he was sliding that led to their TD- we didnt. And Green's drop to kill a drive in the 2nd half when we had field position just cant happen. He's been very disappointing to this point in the season.</div><div>
</div><div>7. Why put in Russell? He is a dropback passing turnover machine. He's fine against Conference USA defenses, but this is the f*cking SEC. At least LSU was nice enough to get in the prevent at the end and not beat his brains in. Dont give me any BS about time to throw. When he had some time- he held the ball too long. He threw the ball up for grabs last night on his pick- you never want to see a QB do that. Relf's pick was the CB beating our WR to the spot- Tyler's was just thrown up there so he wouldnt get hit- huge difference. We lose 3 starters on the OL in December- if you think Russell is going to have alot of time to throw next year- you are living in a fantasy world. Dak- get ready asap please</div><div>
</div><div>8. Cam Lawrence is playing well. He is making the defensive calls, getting us lined up correctly, as well as playing out of position inside. I wish the other LB's were playing at the level he is. Wilson is just a little slow- he isnt bad- but just cant quite get there to make plays. Maye? Ugh. Bohana has some talent- his reads look slow- because once he starts moving- he gets there quickly- seems like a guy that needs to blitz alot.</div><div>
</div><div>9. Broomfield plays as soft as Grandmama's titties last night in coverage all game long- then decides he is going to jump a slant in the red zone. Seriously? They gameplanned the hell out of throwing at him.</div><div>
</div><div>10. Bottom line- we lost to the best team in the nation. They have the best defense, a very good OL, and enough skill people to win every game they play. Oklahoma aint beating that team. Bama may at home- but thats it. We improved on defense, in kick coverage, and made fewer dumb penalties. We need to get some guys on the OL well- and take down Georgia and SC- Georgia is reeling right now- and SC let E Carolina throw 31on them, and then needed 2 defensive TD's and a fake punt to beat Georgia- hardly top 10 work to this point. The team that played for us last night can beat SC in Starkville.</div><div>
</div><div>aGAIN- being a State fan isnt easy- and it never will be. 1 SEC West title in 20 years, and Mississippi doesnt even have one (losing the tiebreaker means they finished 2nd). Let's get revenge for Crooms 17-up, and then see if we can pull an upset on the road at Georgia. Chins up- at least we arent Mississippi</div><div>
</div><div>In Mullen We Trust,</div><div>
</div><div>Coach34</div>
 

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Coach34 said:
1. Until we get some offensive lineman that can block LSU and Alabama, we arent going to win these types of games. That was the biggest difference in the game- period. We can angle block and scheme most everybody else- but these 2 teams have alot of NFL talent on defense and more than anybody else. You cant mask your weaknesses against the kind of defenders those 2 teams have right now. They dont win 10 games or more every year for nothing.

Most of us knew this.
 

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<div>Let me start by saying a few things before getting to specifics. Those on this board that are shocked or pissed about this game need to get a grip. If you were counting this game as a W at the beginning of the season, you needed your head examined anyway. The real failure is still Auburn, and if we dont get to 7 or 8, it will be because of that game, not this one. Great atmosphere again though and a great effort by anout-mannedfootball team. </div><div>
</div><div>So lets take a look at the 3 facets:</div><div>
</div><div>Special Teams</div><div>1. Egan is still insufficient, but better effort on the coverage this week.</div><div>2. Tubby is a natural returner, Perkins is not.</div><div>3. DePasquale has another perfect game.</div><div>4. Swedenberg has another very good game. Have we had any return yards on us this year? His kicks combined with the coverage have been excellent.</div><div>
</div><div>Defense</div><div>1. Much better effort overall this week, though I think it is about 30% improvement and 70% playing a uber-conservative offensive scheme.</div><div>2. Much better games from Boyd and Cox. I dont know what go into them, but I just can't comprehend Auburn's interior OL being better than LSU's. </div><div>3. Much better effort from Eulls. </div><div>4. PJ Jones needs to see the field a lot more. Huge play on 2nd and 4 in the 1st quarter. Jones looks like one of those rare pass-rushing DTs that just knows how to get in the backfield. That said, after 3 games, I think we should just go heavy all night. Eulls/Boyd/PJ Jones/Cox. Cox played some end last night and looked good doing it. Those 4 should be tough to run on. Ferguson is a non-factor, and a close 2nd to Brandon Maye to being the most useless player on the team.</div><div>5. I almost lost it when I saw our entire 2nd team DL going in there during critical drives in the 3rd quarter. I mean McCardell/Cherrington/D. Jones/Stigers. Really? We just dont have the talent to do full line shifts, and why isnt PJ Jones in that line if we are? </div><div>6. Apparently, the people watching the game on TV got a different impression of a few plays/players than I did from the game, and I am sure that is reasonable, because I was half buzzed and not always in the best position to see the plays, but I thought Cam Lawrence played a solid game. He seemed to always be the one calling out the plays and picking up what the offense was doing. He was about the only linebackers that could actually strafe the blockers and get to the outside to at least alter the direction of the play, and he did a good job getting in the hole on a few key running plays, particularly in the 1st half. </div><div>7. If Charles Mitchell had 16 tackles, he might have missed 30. Bad coverage too. Two straight sub-par games for Mitchell. And by sub-par, I mean he is supposed to be one of our best defensive players, a game-changer, and he has been far from it. </div><div>8. Watching BRANDON MAYE was just high comedy last night. Dude got absolutely run over a few times, and the rest of the time he was just lost. He is a liability and should be relegated to special teams, if that. And you wonder why Clemson moved him to OLB. Jamie Jones or Bohanna are both better than Maye. Surely the coaches will see that he just provides nothing at all on tape over the long break. </div><div>9. I think we saw that this defense can be good enough to get enough stops to win a few games, especially against conventional offenses, which we will see from UGA, USC, UK and OM. </div><div>
</div><div>Offense</div><div>1. Talent gap.</div><div>2. Talent gap.</div><div>3. Playing two redshirt freshmen on the O-Line was just insurmountable. I have never seen so many plays blown up in the backfield in my life. 15 TFL? Stupid. We couldn't run counters or misdirection because they would be in the backfield before our guard or tackle get started pulling. </div><div>4. It sucks that our best WR corps in a long time still can't get any separation. Then when they did, we didnt make the play. Thanks Marcus Green.</div><div>5. I think Relf did all he could. He did make a few bad throws, but that is going to happen. He made some really good ones too, including the one Marcus Green dropped late in the game. So what do we do? We bring in Russell, RIGHT AFTER Relf throws a strike to Green that would have gone for a 1st down. Seeing Russell in there against LSU was like a flashback to the Fant days. Looking for a spark or not, that was a bad move. I am going to have to side with Coach34 at this point, Russell just doesnt have it, at least not for this offense. I hope Dak is ready to compete next year. </div><div>6. I knew we were in trouble when we ran that option the 1st play of the game and it never had a chance. </div><div>7. 2.3 years into the Mullen regime, and he has still failed to move the ball against a top-tier defense, and he probably won't until he starts signing some 4-star OL and WR. </div><div>
</div><div>Random</div><div>Again, I guess things looked different on TV, but I thought the Wade Bonner call was just horsesh*t. It looked to me that he would have gotten to the receiver just as the ball would have, had Banks not tipped it. That kind of call wins or loses a game like that. </div><div>
</div><div>Were there that many advertisements on the jumbotron last year? Damn, that was annoying. I mean I realize that it is a money-maker, but the timing of some of those ads just killed the atmosphere. Couldn't we run some ads that dont have audio/video (like the UMI ad), towards the end of each segment so we can play some more music and keep the crowd rocking? And please move that underage drinking ad to the beginning of the game, that was just depressing to watch in the 4th quarter. Outside of that, gameday was perfect. </div><div>
</div><div>Rest of the season...I think we will get better as the season goes on, much like we did last year. If our defense can build off this game, we will be in the UGA and USC games. So, 2-2 after La Tech, I see the rest of the season going as follows: UGA and USC are coin flips. We could probably beat UGA if we had them at home, and we may have enough at home to surprise USC. That said, I will make a call on the UGA game after I see them play Ole Miss. We still beat UAB, UK, Tenn-Martin and Ole Miss to get to 6 wins. The rest of the season lies in the other 4 SEC games, and as of now, Arkansas and Bama are L's and USC and UGA are maybes. Best case scenario - 8 wins; Worst case - 6 wins (and that should be our expectation going into every season until we bring in some better talent).</div><div>
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Coach34 wrote: [/b said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">We improved on defense, in kick coverage, and made fewer dumb penalties.</span>

This removed any doubt that we weren't improving. Our kickoff coverage and punt coverage were lights out compared to last week. I haven't looked at the stats, but we won the field position battle last night (a big reason we lost at Auburn). Also, the only stupid penalty was when our safety (forgot who it was) knocked the receiver down on the incomplete pass. Other than that, we played a clean game as far as taking care of our business on special teams and penalties.

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after all of the idiotic and incoherent crap I have read this morning, thanks to Coach and Azzurri for posting something worth reading.
 

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thatsbaseball]and where do you think you were off on your original prediction. Mainly Auburn ?

although 9-3 was more likely. I OD'ed on koolaid a little- but we beat Auburn like we should have and all is well right now for the most part.
 

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..he and the receiver had both pulled up and you could tell from his body language he decided to pop him just for good measure. Terrible mistake.

But even if it wasn't a good call it made up for the gift in the first half when Cam Lawerence tackled the receiver on the 5 yard line before he could make the catch and LSU had to kick a FG.
 

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It looked bad at the game though, and Mullen rode that official pretty hard after the call. <div>
</div><div>Another question for those watching at home...what about that illegal touching call when we stopped the punt from going into the endzone? Was that legit? That also looked like a bad call from my perspective at the game.</div>
 

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Everyone is acting like we have had ten straight winning seasons. Dan needs to pick it up in recruiting, no doubt. But what you saw last night was years of top five recruiting classes. Their scrubs are faster than our starters. We are in year three of the post croom era, think about that. You 17ers dreaming of national titles may need to obtain a little patience.
 

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..was because he held up a little, then just dipped his shoulder and charged it into the receiver, then kind of posed over him Ali-like. it was obvious he wasn't trying to tackle him. if he'd tackled through him he wouldn't have been called. but by his body language it was obvious it was on purpose.

as far as Offense #3, why not a middle screen? hell, even Crooms and Jackie teams knew that play. why not roll out Relf? seems to me like Dan doesn't have faith in having Relf do anything other than what he's been coached up on, which is our standard offense. but bottom line, we all expect Mullen to be able to get the ball to a playmaker in somewhat open space, even against a better line.

maybe that was just the game plan: conservative O, hoping on breaking a run or scoring on D. for 3 quarters that plan was working fine, we just never got a break. when it was too late to stick to that plan, he probably didn't trust having Relf run plays he wasn't prepped on, so he put in Russel.
 

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There's little reason to blame Russell. He's the back-up and for two years now he's gotten thrown in the fire against a superior LSU defense (and Bama last year as well). If he was getting first teams reps and the offense was tailored to his strengths then he'd be on the hook. But we were sunk before he entered the game. The fact that Mullen goes to him is more an indictment of Relf's passing prowess than anything.<div>
</div><div>Drops, drops and drops. We are Mississippi State, we can't survive those. The LSUs & Bamas of the world can.</div><div>
</div><div>Sacks, sacks and sacks. Most of this goes on our offensive line. We can't protect. Some of it goes on Relf (and to a lesser degree Russell). Throw it away if it's not there. Especially with Relf back there, if we aren't on schedule then we are probably punting.</div><div>
</div><div>Bottom line: Our staff doesn't trust Relf to throw the ball (which is why Russell sees the field at all). His "improvement" last year came against three terrible secondaries (Arkansas, Ole Miss, Michigan). Until we are two dimensional, we have zero shot against the top flight teams.</div><div>
</div><div>I said that we'd go 7-5 or 8-4. Now I'm not so optimistic.</div><div>
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AzzurriDawg4 said:
Random<div style="font-weight: bold;">Again, I guess things looked different on TV, but I thought the Wade Bonner call was just horsesh*t. It looked to me that he would have gotten to the receiver just as the ball would have, had Banks not tipped it. That kind of call wins or loses a game like that. </div>
<div>Rest of the season...I think we will get better as the season goes on, much like we did last year. If our defense can build off this game, we will be in the UGA and USC games. So, 2-2 after La Tech, I see the rest of the season going as follows: UGA and USC are coin flips. We could probably beat UGA if we had them at home, and we may have enough at home to surprise USC. That said, I will make a call on the UGA game after I see them play Ole Miss. We still beat UAB, UK, Tenn-Martin and Ole Miss to get to 6 wins. The rest of the season lies in the other 4 SEC games, and as of now, Arkansas and Bama are L's and USC and UGA are maybes. Best case scenario - 8 wins; Worst case - 6 wins (and that should be our expectation going into every season until we bring in some better talent).</div><div>
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That was such crazy ********... I lost my mind and acted a fool for a minute on that call and the touchback the ref called that we stopped on the one. Those two calls really swung the game and got some momentum going for LSU, I thought.

I agree on the rest of the season, we will definitely get to 6 wins, and I see us splitting UGA/USC and possibly knocking off Arkansas, although War Memorial is a tough place to play. Bama is going to outmatch us like LSU did, though... so get ready to see the board in meltdown mode after that game, too.

Edited to add: I was at the game and haven't seen the replay, so it very well could've looked different on tv but from my seats I thought both calls were absolute BS. Call me a homer if you want...
 

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it was the definition of 'defenseless receiver'. i think the new rule is just written that that's a dead ball PF.

now, IMO, if you're gonna not let that player get hit, then you should also not let him get back in the play. for example, if the ball gets overthrown way past him, ends up being intercepted, then he's not allowed to take part in the play by say trying to make a tackle. only fair for not allowing the D to knock him on his butt with a clean hit. but i digress.
 

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After seeing the replay I was ok with the call. It could possibly have been let go, but bottom line it was just a stupid play on Bonner's part.
 

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We`ve taken one of the all time quantam leaps forward in coaching ability but howdoes Mullen`s recruiting stack against Crxxms`.I promise this is not a leading question......I really don`t know.
 

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I thought it looked like we stopped it from going in the end zone, but on the replay the official standing right there threw his bean bag into the end zone at about the same time as our player batted the ball back.
 

DirtyLopez

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for the class with Russell, Boyd, Cox, etc. He held them together I guess and we got Bumphis b/c of Mullen, but those other guys committed to Croom or maybe Stringer. Other than that, Croom's recruiting was pretty non-existent. I definitely buy into the theory that Croom was lazy. Mullen works his *** off, but he is surrounded by the highest bidders in the country in tenn.,lsu, bama, auburn and apparently he has decided that we aren't even offering $100 dollar handshakes. We can't even recruit the instate kids on a half way level playing field. And I don't think he is doing any *** kissing either. So, I don't see how things can end very well at the current pace. We are bringing a stick to a gun fight, but at the same time, if we decide to get ourselves a gun, the ncaa will be showing up as quick as they can. Maybe I'm a pessimest, but I see 8 wins on a semi consistent basis as being something to be excited about. On the field, Mullen might end up being the best coach we have had in my lifetime though.
 

clydefrazier

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Relf had all night numerous times and just stands there with zero pocket presence. Have you ever seen him throw the ball away to avoid a sack? Relf hits an Auburn guy in the damn helment last week and this week he throws in to a spot where the two lsu guys could have both caught it. Tyler had a guy coming at his grill at about 100 mph and yeah he threw it up.Relf had time on his pick, the ball was thrown so bad toCarr, it wasnteven close. The reason we dont throw in the red zone isobvious, Mullen and Les have no confidence that Relf wont throw a pick, what else could it be. \
Conf-USA?, Tyler led us to a TD last year against LSU and Bama,two of the top defenses in the country, Relf, not close.Dan Marino couldnt have come in late with LSU blitzing and done anythingthere....coach
 

Dawgzilla

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He either signs a Tim Tebow clone, or switches to a different offense. The Spread Option simply will not work against top SEC defenses unless you have Tebow at QB. Cam Newton would probably be acceptable as well.
 

maroondog

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#1. Enough on Mullen; Best FB coach at State since Daryl Royal. In year 3 still learning to be Head Coach; Next step for him is better recruiting!
#2. Defense-Improved; still need better Linebacker play: better linebacker recruiting; Just wonder if the game plan was to play Broomfield off the receiver that much!?
#3. Special -Team Improved; Recruit a kicker with a leg. Not sure if Perkins should be back there.
#4. Offense - Took a step back last night: Bumphis, where are you? so for not impressed. I have a feeling most offenses in the country will take a step back when playing the Bayou Bengals, see Oregon Ducks; Injuries have taken a toll on the Offensive line.We still have a hangover from Croom on this front. Recruiting is a must here!!Not Deep enough.
#5. Assistant Coaches. Have a feeling Dan is not 100% happy here, but money is probably an issue. Do you hear me Mr. Mize and Seal Brothers!!!
#6. Crowd and atmosphere; If we improve as much in the next 3 years as we have in the previous 3 years.. We should be in the top half of the SEC. Only way we can improve here Dan is 7-8-9 wins....

In recruiting, we need to get the Football complex and endzone expansion completed ASAP!
 

Hidog78

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Why not? Relf was notdoing anything. Running the ball, nothing. Passing the ball, nothing. Relf had the time to find recievers or the outlet man he didn't produce. Russell did not have the time to get set. Recievers and O-line, and defencsive backsare the problems. Russell ran theball ok. Mullen sent him in because Relf was not effective.
 

perch0

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Loose Behind the Goal Line
ARTICLE 11. If a scrimmage kick untouched by Team B after crossing the neutral
zone is batted in Team B’s end zone by a player of Team A, it is a violation for
illegal touching (Rule 6-3-2). The spot of the violation is Team B’s 20-yard line,
which may be a penalty enforcement spot for fouls by Team A during the kick
play (Rules 6-3-13 and 10-2-4) (Exception: Rule 8-4-2-b) (A.R. 6-3-11-I-III and
A.R 2-11-2-I).
 

AzzurriDawg4

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Newsflash, there werent any open receivers. Sure, Relf could have thrown it away a few times, but he tried to do something with his athletic ability. aGAIN, the play before Russell replaced him, Relf threw a perfect ball to Marcus Green that he dropped.
 

Coach34

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AzzurriDawg4 said:
Newsflash, there werent any open receivers. Sure, Relf could have thrown it away a few times, but he tried to do something with his athletic ability. aGAIN, the play before Russell replaced him, Relf threw a perfect ball to Marcus Green that he dropped.
you Russell supporters are going to get your wish in 11 months- better get your excuses ready, you're going to need them
 

klerushund

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Are we more consistent with Relf? Of course. As long as we're on schedule he and Ballard are a great one-two battering ram.<div>
</div><div>But it's blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain that he's a running back playing QB. If he could pass, the coaches would let him.<div>
</div><div>Maybe Russell will suck. It's certainly a possibility. But he can't be any worse than Relf (when it comes to passing).</div><div>
</div><div>But we have ZERO chance of beating the top flight teams in the SEC (and therefore ZERO chance of contending in the West) without a passing game.</div><div>
</div><div>So here's hoping that Russell is good because if he's not, we're in for several more years of having ZERO chance at winning the West.</div><div>
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Coach34

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klerushund said:
Are we more consistent with Relf? Of course. As long as we're on schedule he and Ballard are a great one-two battering ram.<div>
</div><div>But it's blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain that he's a running back playing QB. If he could pass, the coaches would let him.<div>
</div><div>Maybe Russell will suck. It's certainly a possibility. But he can't be any worse than Relf (when it comes to passing).</div><div>
</div><div>But we have ZERO chance of beating the top flight teams in the SEC (and therefore ZERO chance of contending in the West) without a passing game.</div><div>
</div><div>So here's hoping that Russell is good because if he's not, we're in for several more years of having ZERO chance at winning the West.</div><div>
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Russell has played about 1/5 of the plays Ralph has- yet has the same number of picks....all we are going to get with Russell is more passing yards, less rushing yards, and 3 times the turnovers
 

Hidog78

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Your the coaching guru,.the know it all,and the answer man to all sports. What is the answer, an official measured (5'10") mouth orfreshman with no college football snaps? I am sure that in your previousstatedopinions the answer is there. I think you stated earlier this year that if Prescott signed that Russell would transfer to EMCC, Didn't happen!</p>

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louisianadawg

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Until we start getting 4 and 5 star recruits consistently you can't expect to win the west when our best linebacker was a qb/fs at a private school.

Example - Anthony Johnson DE/DT at LSU is a backup. True Freshman, 5 star recruit who has ran a 4.55 in camp
At MSU, he starts and would possibly the best player on defense