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this is because of depth chart. OM might only have 1 QB on scholarship in December 2010. Brunetti could probably start for 3 years.
Secondly, it's ridiculous that OM can get high quality spread QBs and we can't.
Secondly, it's ridiculous that OM can get high quality spread QBs and we can't.
You'd think a kid with an MUS education could see the train wreck that's already started in Oxford.
Did he steal something? Get busted with pot? Just curious if he is needin some hep from the CEO of We Hep Peeple Inc.
Nutt has ruined more than one too! Ole Miss is telling every kid out there that they will play immediately and it is working in some cases. some kids think they want to play right away without looking at not being a very good team. I am sure we have used that too.
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The rap sheet:
Clint Stoerner fumble
Matt Jonesturned into a WR
Mustain debacle
Ruined Jevan Snead
4* Cotton transfer
Can't do anything with Masoli
Clint Stoerner fumble
Matt Jonesturned into a WR
Mustain debacle
Ruined Jevan Snead
4* Cotton transfer
Can't do anything with Masoli
All things considered, I would rather have Matt Jones than Tim Tebow if I needed one QB to play for me in the national championship..Maron Whit said:
57StratDawg said:
Just let your QB situation go to crap, and BOOM transfer QBs.
Have Seth Adams and Bruce Hall as your only two QBs, both newcomers to the team, Brent Schaeffer come on down.
Have Billy Tapp as your only QB slated to be back the next season, while he's currently playing TE, Jevan Snead come on down.
Have Stanley as your only returning QB after one transfers out and the only other one is just coming in, come on down Masoli.
Well, with Masoli's case it took a few criminal acts too, but you get the point.
With Brunetti, I don't know if he'll come, but our situation is that we have only 2 QBs that will be on the team this fall and the next with the only other competition after that coming from guys who aren't even signed yet, and you have a depth chart that's ripe for a quality QB that's wasting away as a back up on someone else's roster.
But yes, outside of SpurLaneFlatt from 2004 and 2005, the only QBs we've been the first to sign out of high school/Juco that will actually see snaps are Mackey and Stanley. I guess you could count Tapp too, but I don't know if that really counts. That covers it though from 2006-2011 though.
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don't know where some of you come up with the stuff you say. our QB situation is just fine beyond the youth of it. but not much you can do about that except go get an older transfer, which you can't do this year and won't make much sense next year when russell is a year older and relf is a senior.
Let's say Brunetti would transfer here and doesn't care about what Tyler Russell may or may not be capable of. Do you say no? I hope Tyler Russell does great things at MSU. However, I'm not going to assume that he will at the expense of not getting more talent on campus. The more QBs the merrier. I don't care if half or 99% of the fan base thinks TR is going to be an All American when it's all said and done. If the kid is thinking about transferring, Mullen needs to get on the phone.
that him going to WV was dumb, geographically and because of the other QBs they had signed. Dubmass.
Look at it this way Brunetti:
Transfer in & sit out next season per NCAA rules while Russell completes his Rs So season.
Then after Russell goes pro after 2011, you will be first in line to be the starter for 2012 as a Rs So. Even if Russell stays for 2012 (highly unlikely, but possible), he will certainly leave after the 2012 season to go pro. There is simply no way he stays for 2013. So you will still have two years to be the man which is 2 more years than you will ever get at WVU.
/waiting for it....
Transfer in & sit out next season per NCAA rules while Russell completes his Rs So season.
Then after Russell goes pro after 2011, you will be first in line to be the starter for 2012 as a Rs So. Even if Russell stays for 2012 (highly unlikely, but possible), he will certainly leave after the 2012 season to go pro. There is simply no way he stays for 2013. So you will still have two years to be the man which is 2 more years than you will ever get at WVU.
/waiting for it....
Then after Russell goes pro after 2011, you will be first in line to be the starter for 2012 as a Rs So. Even if Russell stays for 2012 (highly unlikely, but possible), he will certainly leave after the 2012 season to go pro. There is simply no way he stays for 2013.
I'm all for going after Brunetti... but your analysis is ludacris! So Russell is now going PRO early? Really?How many touchdowns/picks has he thrown the last two weeks? Lots of wool.
I'm all for going after Brunetti... but your analysis is ludacris! So Russell is now going PRO early? Really?How many touchdowns/picks has he thrown the last two weeks? Lots of wool.
I think a Tyler Russell/Barry Brunetti combo used properly-see Leak/Tebow- could be bad ***.
I would not turn down Barry Brunetti. I don't know why he would want to play for Ole Miss. If he transfers, he will still have to sit out a year anyway.
Then what of Favre?
I would not turn down Barry Brunetti. I don't know why he would want to play for Ole Miss. If he transfers, he will still have to sit out a year anyway.
Then what of Favre?
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if you got Brunetti, it'd just be him, no 2 QB situation because supposedly he can run AND throw. Never seen Brunetti play but I'd be willing to bet he can't throw as good as Russell and, while I bet he's a fairly good runner, I don't think he'd be as suited to fill the "Tebow" role as well as Relf. He's 5'10" and Relf is 6'3". </p>
Tyler Russell has been here for two years. Should Brunetti transfer, he would have a year in the system, while Russell would be in his third year.
Brunetti would be a very good contrast to Tyler, and having Tyler around would allow Barry to learn the offense. We could put together a nice option package for Brunetti to run/throw out of at times.
Brunetti would be a very good contrast to Tyler, and having Tyler around would allow Barry to learn the offense. We could put together a nice option package for Brunetti to run/throw out of at times.
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saying our QB position isn't rosy is not accurate. It's the best it's been in years, and Russell will be a damn good player. When's the last time an MSU QB could even hit a wide open receiver?? He's also displayed some good judgement ie looking off receivers and checking down. Yeah, he's thrown some INT's, mostly against a stout *** defense, one of the best. ALL freshmen QBs do this.
Back to Brunetti, we should take him, and he'd fit in well. He'd be a soph. in eligibility when he got here, with Russell a Jr., Favre a soph. as well, and Prescott as a redshirt freshman. Pretty good depth there.
Back to Brunetti, we should take him, and he'd fit in well. He'd be a soph. in eligibility when he got here, with Russell a Jr., Favre a soph. as well, and Prescott as a redshirt freshman. Pretty good depth there.
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Relf struggles with leading the team and the intangibles of being a QB. He can throw on the run pretty well too.
Moot point I guess, because come to think of it, Relf won't be here by the time Brunetti is eligible. We just have to agree to disagree on the Relf/Brunetti being Tebow though.
now, BY THAT TIME, we, I assume, would play the QB that's more suited to the team around them. Masoli has proven that a run/throw pass threat isn't always the best thing for you. As proven this year, Russell can run this offense as well as a run/throw guy. Need to develop the running backs though.
Moot point I guess, because come to think of it, Relf won't be here by the time Brunetti is eligible. We just have to agree to disagree on the Relf/Brunetti being Tebow though.
now, BY THAT TIME, we, I assume, would play the QB that's more suited to the team around them. Masoli has proven that a run/throw pass threat isn't always the best thing for you. As proven this year, Russell can run this offense as well as a run/throw guy. Need to develop the running backs though.
the sarcastic nature in my train of thought did not translate well into the post. Plus, I thought someone might bite on it. Just having a little fun.
All joking aside, if Mullen can sell that line of thought in any way to Brunetti & get him on campus, I'm all for him using it.
All joking aside, if Mullen can sell that line of thought in any way to Brunetti & get him on campus, I'm all for him using it.
he is the second string qb at West Virginia. Besides Newton he was the top qb target for us last year.
Just looking at the SEC West and you see Cam Newton at Auburn, Jeremiah Masoli at Ole Miss, and Ryan Mallett at Arkansas. 2 of those 3 have been mentioned or are being mentioned as legit Heisman candidates. The third (Newton) is off to a solid start. I'm sure there are plenty...
Newton played at Florida and JC, Masoli played at Oregon. They both had a good playing record. I don't remember about Mallett. Brunetti has not proven shinola yet and probably not to bright since he signed with WV with all the QB talent already there.ckDOG said:
Obviously, if you qualify it by requesting only QBs that transferred with little experience that went on to be great QBs, the list would get much smaller. You are inherently at a great disadvantage by transferring at the QB position since only one QB can play at once and experience is so highly valued. So, you better be a huge talent that just happens to be overshadowed by greater talent if you want to transfer without having proven yourself prior. Is that the case with Brunetti at WVU? Who knows?
That being said, you can probably get rid of Mallet - he transferred because Rich Rod came to town. Masoli would have never transferred had he not screwed up. Newton? Maybe. He transferred because he was behind one great QB and had stout competition from Brantley. He's yet to be proven as "All-World" - but I have a feeling he will be.
Regardless of transfer QB history, you still have to bring in as much talent you can. If Brunetti is on the market (doubtful), we'd be dumb not to pursue him. MSU isn't and likely never will be in a position where we need to turn down QB prospects.
That being said, you can probably get rid of Mallet - he transferred because Rich Rod came to town. Masoli would have never transferred had he not screwed up. Newton? Maybe. He transferred because he was behind one great QB and had stout competition from Brantley. He's yet to be proven as "All-World" - but I have a feeling he will be.
Regardless of transfer QB history, you still have to bring in as much talent you can. If Brunetti is on the market (doubtful), we'd be dumb not to pursue him. MSU isn't and likely never will be in a position where we need to turn down QB prospects.