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DowntownDawg

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"....A was the aggressor that punched listed victim with a closed fist also was using racial slurs while punching victim. There was an unrelated witness that observed the whole incident."

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"....A was the aggressor that punched listed victim with a closed fist also was using racial slurs while punching victim. There was an unrelated witness that observed the whole incident."

Up on the CL website now.
 
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Yes, but does it mention that the cabbie is Muslim and therefore can't possibly be telling the truth. Because that should be the focus of the police report.
 
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From the espn.com article:

Police said the left side of Jiddou's face was swollen; at his northern Kentucky home more than <font size="5">12 hours later, he had no apparent injuries and said he wasn't hurt physically</font> but was upset to be compared to the terrorist leader.

So, 12 hours later, when the injury should be visible as much or moreso than when it happened, he has no apparent injuries.

12 hours later he says he wasn't hurt physically.

12 hours later he basically says that he filed a false police report because he was pissed that AK and/or someone on his staff called him Osama and Saddaam after he called Coach Ward a n***er.

Not only that, but the bar's owner says that AK and his staff were not told to leave the bar, much less kicked out, as was told by the cab driver.
 
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...because I am not interested in your mickey mouse registered nurse rationalizations about bruises and swelling. I don't give a **** about what you think about that. On top of that, he said on the radio that he was "ok" but that he had been hit in the face. Just because he says he had no apparent injuries doesn't mean he wasn't punched in the face.

And if you will show me where he admits to filing a false police report, then you win. That's just a freaking lie.

And apparently there was some issue with the way they left the bar since it was noted in the police report that they were kicked out.
 
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<blockquote style="font-weight: bold;"> was upset to be compared to the terrorist leader.[/quote]figured out yet how that might be considerent racist?
 
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That's your excuse? Just because AK punches like a girl doesn't mean he didn't punch someone.
 
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My "mickey mouse" rationalizations about bruises and swelling are from personal experience, not "nurse rationalizations." Not only that, but its the truth. I guess you classify things you don't agree with as "mickey mouse" rationalizations.

Where did I say that he admitted to filing a false police report? I didn't say he admitted to filing one, I said he did. By the things he said 12 hours later, he has basically admitted to filing a false report. He claims he wasn't hurt physically, but was just pissed that he was called names.

And the part about when they left the bar was gathered by the police from the account of the cab driver. You obviously have no idea how police reports work.

And, if they were kicked out of the bar or if there was some issue with it, then why would the owner say today that they weren't? That doesn't make any sense.</p>
 
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When the cabbie was interviewed on the radio, he said what Kennedy and the guys were calling him and they had to be bleeped out of the broadcast. I dont think Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein would have been bleeped out. Also I'm not saying that the radio show interview is the truth, but its what the cabbie has said.
 
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enough for it to be "swollen" after it happened it would show up the next day.

I'm not sure how you can rationalize that if someone was punched in the head enough for it to swell up that there would be no apparent injuries just 12 hours later and that person would say that they weren't physically hurt.</p>
 
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What about when he called Ward a n***er? Figure out how thats racist yet?
 
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..(not suprising at all), and the swelling was worse the next day. Thanks for that overarching empirical evidence that eliminates police observations and eyewitness accounts. Your personal response to getting jacked up one time is the most important factor here. I'm sure the force or the place of the impact doesn't have anything to do with it. No, you got punched, and you swelled up the next day. Therefore, the cabbie must be lying! Thanks Agent Mulder. (If someone could please post that boxer with a not on his head as he was leaving the ring, that would be helpful. I guess that has to be a fark because injuries are not detetectable until the next day).

Baselessly saying that he filed a false police report is a dumbass, biased opinion that is worth absolutely nothing in advancing your argument. It's stupid.

I have some idea. Police officers talk to witnesses and get their best idea of what happened. So he didn't get kicked out. Apparently there was enough of a ruckus that other people thought he did. Anyway, that matters very little as to whether or not he punched a guy in the face.
 
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jsireland

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nowhere did i say that warranted an arrest, nor have i looked like an idiot while professing to be unaware that the 'n word' is a racial insult.

you made the statement in another thread that you were not aware that 'osama' was a racial insult. i am merely pointing out how ridiculous that sounds, especially coming from someone whose signature pokes fun at american ignorance.
 
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...to someone who has very little grasp of the English language might mean that he had no broken bones or whatever. Again, you are taking that comment way too literally. Claiming that you got punched in the face and saying you are not hurt are not mutually exclusive.
 
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When you post that "12 hours later he basically says that he filed a false police report", you are basically saying that he basically admitted to filing a false police report. If I SAY I filed a false report, then by definition I have admitted to filing a false report. And you really believe that swelling can't subside within 12 hours? So what if he didn't show signs of swelling 12 hours later. That doesn't prove it wasn't there when the whole thing went down. And aGAIN, even if there is no evidence of assault, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I thought you lawyers were supposed to be smarter than us farmers.
 
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...Ole Miss story. Nobody is saying that happened but the people who want Kennedy cleared. Taking that as fact is retarded.
 
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Who said injuries aren't detectable until the next day? Who said he was never slapped upside the head? He obviously wasn't "swollen" as it doesn't say anything about that in the police report or the arrest record that is on the C-L website. He doesn't have any injuries the next day and reports that he wasn't physically harmed. But you believe he got jacked up by Andy Kennedy?

I based my opinion that he filed a false report based on him changing his story, and other, non-biased people (like the bar owner) stating that parts of his story are incorrect.

When all of the charges are dropped because the guy has people in court (assuming they get that far before its dropped) rip his story to shreds, what will you say then? Also, any time there is an assault charge with visible harm done to someone, there is supposed to be pictures taken of the injuries. So far, we have a mugshot of AK and Bill Anderson. We know the name of the guy....yet there are no pictures of his physical harm, and the next day he shows no injuries whatsoever.

Coach34 got one thing right....DowntownDumbass was as right a nickname for you as any.</p>
 
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VanillaFace said:
What about when he called Ward a n***er? Figure out how thats racist yet?
Click to expand...

Thank you for re-enforcing my point. AK would not have been arrested without probable cause, that being the swelling on the face that the police officers witnessed at the time and the eye witness. If the police were making arrest on statements of the parties involved, the cab driver would be in jail also. The police did not witness enough evidence to arrest the cab driver, but felt there was sufficent evidence to arrest AK. They are not in the habit of making arrest based on hearsay, that could become an expensive habit.

If AK was unjustly arrested, I would expect him to sue for false imprisonment. If this goes the way I believe it will, AK will make a quite agreement with the judge and you will never hear anything about it.
 
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...it's on ESPN.com. Are the police trying to frame Kennedy?

Again, how did he change his story? Just because he said he was not hurt, doesn't mean he didn't get hit in the face. For the 35th time.

You are a blindly biased fool. There is not a shred of objectivity in you. Please stop posting here. You've already been banned once.
 
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it obviously wasn't his fault. There is entirely to much class up in Oxford for any of this to have happened
 
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As a Martial Arts instructor and being in this for 22 YEARS, I've been on the giving end and the recieving end on some ncie hits and kicks where there's been an initial trama, then the next day NOTHING. EVERY TIME I break boards with a ridgehand strike, my hand swells up at the point of cantact and even looks a little blue. Guess is MAGIC that the next morning there's NO SIGN of any trama exept it still hurts like a *****. So unles you get scratched or get a black eye, most likely in a few hours there won;t be any sign. This is from 22 years of experience
 
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longdongdon

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Just posting facts and get a smartass comment back. Slide on down to my shool tonight, I've got an extra set of pads you can borrow
 
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Let me just grab my nunchuks and put on karate suit and I'll be out there. You don't mind if I bring Greg Byrne do you? If not, you should.

*And I can say this is the first time I have ever been threatened online by a martial arts master.
 
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longdongdon

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They were a present from me for him completing his Ninja training under my supervision. He achieved his Master in Ninjutsu faster than any man ever has. He achieved his mastership in 2 hours and 4 minutes, then left to get on the plane so he could began training Chicky Norris in HOW TO kick ***. LOL
 
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I think what happened was is that number 1. you have practice karate as an adult for an extended period of time, 2. you tried to intimidate someone over the internet with your adult karate skillz 3. you invited me to a place called the fitness plex in Florence, MS, 4. I was trying to help you out by not replying and 5. your use of "lol" makes me think you realized all of a sudden the aforementioned and were embarrassed.

Just a hunch.
 
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