Frost presser
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The bottom isn’t 1 game. The bottom may last a while.
Frost said the players weren't buying in. He said they weren't giving effort and that's why they had the results they did. Well it's not just the players. The coaches haven't been giving the effort they need to either. They can't just do the same things they did at UCF and expect it to work here. The level of success they had at UCF has made some of these coaches lazy. They have to find a way to win here.
Frost said the players weren't buying in. He said they weren't giving effort and that's why they had the results they did. Well it's not just the players. The coaches haven't been giving the effort they need to either. They can't just do the same things they did at UCF and expect it to work here. The level of success they had at UCF has made some of these coaches lazy. They have to find a way to win here.[/QUOTE]
So, what, losses mean they are lazy coaches? They were stupid to bring what worked in Florida? What have you seen that convinces you these coaches aren’t trying?
I just love posters who know these things, such as the coaches being lazy.
So, what, losses mean they are lazy coaches? They were stupid to bring what worked in Florida? What have you seen that convinces you these coaches aren’t trying?
I just love posters who know these things, such as the coaches being lazy.
So, what, losses mean they are lazy coaches? They were stupid to bring what worked in Florida? What have you seen that convinces you these coaches aren’t trying?
I just love posters who know these things, such as the coaches being lazy.[/QUOTE]
They're coaching like they're coaching their second year UCF team. Well this team is nowhere close to the level of 2017 UCF. They need to be coaching more like their first year at UCF and have the same sense of urgency they had when turning around a 0 win UCF team. The coaches have been way overconfident and haven't shown any sense of urgency like they had at UCF.
If he thought those kids were playing to the best of their ability, then he watched a different game than I did. Was the word "effort" used?
Until this coaching staff decides to "coach" and these players decide to "play"... the results will remain the same and maybe 2 wins this season.
Very disappointed in both areas....coaching seems hap-hazard at best and players seem as mentally fragile as last year. No one expected 8-4 or 9-3 (except maybe Tom Shatel), All I expect is clean play and disciplined play and solid coaching ....but all I have seen is undisciplined sloppy play....and I won't even talk about the coaching
Very disappointed in both areas....coaching seems hap-hazard at best and players seem as mentally fragile as last year. No one expected 8-4 or 9-3 (except maybe Tom Shatel), All I expect is clean play and disciplined play and solid coaching ....but all I have seen is undisciplined sloppy play....and I won't even talk about the coaching
So, what, losses mean they are lazy coaches? They were stupid to bring what worked in Florida? What have you seen that convinces you these coaches aren’t trying?
I just love posters who know these things, such as the coaches being lazy.[/QUOTE]
bingo. Some of the comments on here border on hysteria. Now we are asserting, without any evidence, that the coaches have gotten lazy?? We are asserting that Frost should not be using the successful blueprint that got him hired here and he should switch to a different blueprint?? Which one?? And in his press conference Frost said the players were competing hard but maybe did not know what level of intensity was required, what level of effort... but that included off the field effort in the weight room, at practice, etc... He was NOT claiming that the kids quit in the game or that they were not trying hard.
If we are going to start accusing Frost of all kinds of things (like laziness and stupidly following his successful blueprint) then let's at least get right what it was he actually said about the game.
Lazy coaches?
Wasnt this the group who were prepping UCF at the same time they were recruiting for NU? I recall stories of them running practice then criscrossing the country recruiting kids later in the day.
Maybe the problem is lazy entitled fans.
This is going to take time for many reasons. Some level of parity is here. Look at the Virginia Tech game yesterday. Hell even OU needed OT to beat Army. ODU played hard in that game. Does that mean their coach is better than Frost? No. Maybe it means their players bought in.
This staff is the right group. Some of the players are the right group. Be patient. You people ready to run Frost off after three games are a piece of work. Who would you get next? Can you afford the buyout? This is our team dammit. Instead of bitching, cheer louder. If more people cheered as loud as they bitched, the game day atmosphere would be amazing.
Wasnt this the group who were prepping UCF at the same time they were recruiting for NU? I recall stories of them running practice then criscrossing the country recruiting kids later in the day.
Maybe the problem is lazy entitled fans.
This is going to take time for many reasons. Some level of parity is here. Look at the Virginia Tech game yesterday. Hell even OU needed OT to beat Army. ODU played hard in that game. Does that mean their coach is better than Frost? No. Maybe it means their players bought in.
This staff is the right group. Some of the players are the right group. Be patient. You people ready to run Frost off after three games are a piece of work. Who would you get next? Can you afford the buyout? This is our team dammit. Instead of bitching, cheer louder. If more people cheered as loud as they bitched, the game day atmosphere would be amazing.
This. I am now at the point of just sitting back and laughing at some of the hysteria on here. At first these meltdowns angered me. Now they just amuse me. Frost and his staff are lazy?? Lol. That is so lame the only thing you can do is laugh at it. Frost should abandon the program and schemes he used at UCF? Again... just laughable.
The whole "I thought they competed" thing bothered me. Every untrained eye could tell that they had given up minutes into the game. There may have been a handful of individuals that competed (Barry, Bootle), but the team certainly didn't.
He said that if he didn't think that the team competed that he would really have to worry. Well, he really needs to worry.
He said that if he didn't think that the team competed that he would really have to worry. Well, he really needs to worry.
The best thing is to get better week by week and take one step ( game)at a time and hopefully win 6 games to extend the season...
I agree, that is pretty tall order currently, let's hope this team can dig down deep and get bowl eligible. I see flashes of what this team can be at times, but it seems they are not consistent enough to win games they should win. Yesterday was one of those games everybody hopes for better outcome, but very nervous it could get out of hand quickly and it did for the players, coaches and fans
BC does not suck..Probably the 3rd best team in the ACC right now.
I expected 8-4, and with good coaching we could have gotten there this year. 8-4 really isn't asking too much. This is one of the worst coached teams in college football right now. Can Frost turn it around? I think he can but he needs to make the choices to be able to do so.
Why are people giving Bootle credit. He certainly didn't compete in run support. He was one of our worst players yesterday.
I didn't say he played great. From what I saw, he put forth a lot more effort than most others on the defense.
To be fair, that's not really saying much. Kind of like being the tallest midget.
Let me rephrase it then for the slow-witted: He is a good cover corner. Period.
I agree but it doesn't matter if he plays like a junior high player in run support.
He didn’t. Your analysis is flawed. He was not great in run support but he wasn’t terrible either. And if you need your corners to stop the other team’s running game you have deeper issues that need addressing. Sure they help in run support. But their primary job is to cover receivers and he does that well.
Go look at all of Michigan's runs above 10 yards and I'm sure you'll see Bootle in the picture who could have made the tackle but chose to take himself out of the play instead. There was also several times he gave up the outside when he's the only guy there. Junior high players should know never to allow that to happen.
I’m not a pro when it comes to responsibilities and such on the football field. Whose responsibility is t to see the edge on a run play?
I know Bootle needs to make the tackle if it comes to him, but is he the one responsible for the edge?
I always though it was the end in a 4-3, the OLB in a 3-4... can someone confirm for me?
I know Bootle needs to make the tackle if it comes to him, but is he the one responsible for the edge?
I always though it was the end in a 4-3, the OLB in a 3-4... can someone confirm for me?
I doubt he gets drafted, but he's a great young man who graduated and is getting a graduate degree. He did everything UCF asked him for, but ultimately he wouldn't have started at UCF, so staying wouldn't have helped him.
Sounds like you might want former UCF coach George O'Leary. No music during practice, no fun allowed. Not great for recruiting, but it at least appeared like old school football.
These are the same coaches that could have left UCF and not coached the Peach Bowl. Instead they flew cross country multiple times a week between recruiting visits, the only sleep they were getting was often on the private jet. Lazy? No. Honestly I think Frost just needs to get some fast athletes that fit into his system instead of power backs and spread offense style QB's.
I suspect Nebraska will do well in a few years. I hope you guys do. Scott Frost gave UCF a season for a lifetime, and I can't wish ill on him after that. I do think he's going to have to make a very tough decision and fire one of his best friends, Chins. Until he fires Chins, you guys can forget a championship.
Isn't that like being the 3rd tallest midget?
Outside of Clemson...that conf (as of now), stinks...as their 2nd best/2nd tallest midget, Va Tech, just got bet by a Div I-A newbie ODU who was 0-3, including a blowout loss to Liberty.
Having competed in HS and college, I am not a fan of blaming coaching after just a couple of games. I received good coaching generally and I think these coaches have worked to get the kids ready. These kids have been given an incredible amount of support in terms of training and opportunities to get better and by all accounts, they have shed bad weight/added good weight and improved from a strength and conditioning angle. But if the spark to play at a high level has dimmed or gone out, what are the coaches to do? The bad attitudes really set in last season and the early adversity of this season bubbled that up back to the surface.
These kids are in serious need to experience some success in the win/loss column, but they need to realize that is them that can make that happen.
These kids are in serious need to experience some success in the win/loss column, but they need to realize that is them that can make that happen.
I expected more intelligent posters on this board, unstead I see a bunch of whiney little b*tches, that don't live in the real world, and act like daddy took their xbox away.
Some of you need to grow the f*ck up, and let these coaches build this program the right way...
It is really quite simple. We have a certain segment of posters that thought we would win 8+ games this year. Rather than check themselves and their unrealistic expectations and understanding how truly silly they seem now, it all down to bad coaching. No, not bad coaching, the worst coaching ever! But of course they all make sure they say they still support the team and Frost. Have to put their hedge in.
Don't be fooled, these people neither support this team or Frost. They are nothing more than bandwagon, fair weather fans.
Don't be fooled, these people neither support this team or Frost. They are nothing more than bandwagon, fair weather fans.
8 wins isn't unrealistic. There have been coaches who have made it to the national title game in their first year. Plenty of coaches have turned around a losing season in their first year to have a winning season, some in much worse situations than ours. For whatever reason, it's taking Frost longer to turn things around than he thought and what the fans thought. I'm perfectly fine with that as long as it does get turned around, but it's also hard to deny that Frost has made a lot of mistakes in a short amount of time.
Kindly show me a coach that took their team to the national championship in their first year while the previous year was a losing season. I’ll wait.
This isn’t you? Did someone hack your account?
I never made the argument that it had to be after a losing season. You're the one who came up with that crap.
no no no. You can't do that. Keep arguing and diverting attention away from the point....
