Early in the 2nd quarter still, but Tony’s defense giving up key conversions and a couple of red zone scores against Virginia. Full disclosure - FSU offense has turned it over twice.
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Screw those guys. FSU will probably win but go Hoos.
Tony White’s D making Virginia look really good.
I think the way to evaluate Tony White is to compare last years FSU defense to this years FSU defense.
Conversely, you can compare this years Nebraska Defense to last years Nebraska defense. jmho
That said, Virginia's offense looks pretty good.
Conversely, you can compare this years Nebraska Defense to last years Nebraska defense. jmho
That said, Virginia's offense looks pretty good.
FSU was a dumpster fire for one year only last year. That’s too easy of a benchmark. Meanwhile, Virginia just scored like a hot knife through butter despite two offensive penalties inside the 30.
Ignoring the difference in personnel for us upfront seems pretty convenient if you have an agenda.
Tony white turned Nebraskas defense ar after chinanders disaster but I also think he peaked out , he had issues with getting stops on third and long. Actually butler’s defense did pretty good until Michigans second to last drive I think until then Michigan was like 1 out 6
That was an elite field storm. I’m pretty sure the WR and DB got trampled
James got some karma after popping off last weekend.
Little douche has done nothing but run his mouth after he left here.
In another game, Arizona State wins a close one, looks like the Frogs jump out of the top 25.
Exactly. Especially since it was Tony White who failed to recruit good defensive tackles to replace Ty and Nash. I think White knew all along that he wasn’t going to be at NU for more than a couple years. All he wanted to do was field a good defense with the talent he had in the cupboard leftover from the Frost era in order to build his CV. Therefore, he was a lazy *** recruiter. He did not care. He knew he would be gone soon
I think he recruited some good young talent but they haven’t had 4 years in the system to develop like Ty and Nash had. If anything our D line recruiting failure was Frost’s last two years. Same goes for O line. Rhule has flipped the script on the narrative we had those last 3 years of Frost’s tenure. We REALLY have to win at least 7 regular season games this year to keep things trending in a positive manner
Here’s the rub and inconvenient truth for Nebraska. We cannot and will not recruit at a high enough level in the oline and dline to flip our program quickly. There simply are not enough elite young offensive and defensive lineman for us to be able compete after the big programs get who they want. Skill positions have more guys that can keep you in a game than lineman. So, in order for us to get where we want to go, we need to have continuity of coaching and be able to develop guys 3-4 years. The hope will be you get a consistent pipeline of older linemen (like Nash and Ty) that can hold their own vs more talented younger players at schools like Ohio state and Michigan. “Get old. Stay old” is our path forward. It’s a slow and agonizing approach as we have to give a staff time to do it and struggle while they get there. I simply don’t think Nebraska can compete if we keep hitting reset on our coaching staff. It creates gaps in recruiting and player development. I agree with you 100 percent. We need to keep taking a step forward. The more we win, the better we can recruit and keep developing our program. Great post
NU has 4 gimmees. Akron, Houston Christian, NW, and UCLA.
Huskers don't play a good defensive team again until Penn State and Iowa.
We just need the offense to operate well in the meantime.
Any coach that can't get 3 more wins out of those remaining 8 games should quit crowing for a while.
IF we get TDs those first two possessions against Michigan, that would have been a completely different game and discussion. I thought Dana had a couple of clunker play calls or Dylan audibles in to a couple of clunkers that IMO probably ended up costing us the game based on those two “shoulda been TDs”. Very frustrating. We’re still not at the point where we can overcome Pritchett false starts in the redzone.
IF we get TDs those first two possessions against Michigan, that would have been a completely different game and discussion. I thought Dana had a couple of clunker play calls or Dylan audibles in to a couple of clunkers that IMO probably costing us the game based on those two “shoulda been eTDs”. Very frustrating. We’re still not at the point where we can overcome Pritchett false starts in the redzone
What young talent? Name one big defensive tackle/nose guard he recruited that was highly regarded?
The fact we were even in that game is because of Dylan’s talent. Otherwise we got mauled on both lines of scrimmage. We obviously lack talent on both lines. We do not have quality big uglies on either side.
And not scoring early in the game wasn’t just bad luck. It is a trend. We suck in the red zone because our line sucks. Just like our defensive line.
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Ty was a 6th year player and Nash was a 5th year. Ty was a bit underwhelming his first 4 years. Nash became a good run stuffer during his junior year but also dropped off a little his senior year as he faced double teams constantly. What we need to do is develop a talent pipeline so that as OL and DL hit their 4th and 5th year they can become the next high quality starter at their positions. We used to do that in the Osborne years. Frost did initially recruit some decent talent (like Ty) but either failed to keep them, didn't push them to play at their most ideal position (McCaffrey as a WR), or abused them with misuse (Wandale Robinson). He also inherited very little and then left even less for Rhule in the program.
Likewise we can look at the number of players from NU getting drafted in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and into the Pelini years, only to see it drop to 0-2 per year while playing against teams with 7-10 players getting drafted. We have to be patient to see the talent and player development take hold. We can recruit the right players, but we also need to be willing to cut more players that aren't developing at the level we need. Nebraska has a history of being a bit too nice with some guys that just don't have it. Do we need Alvano, for instance?
I think Indiana actually had a better core group when Cignetti arrived and along with his transfers he was able to more easily turn the program around quickly. We want to see the same result but it is an unusual circumstance.
RVP is a very talented a guy who like Ty when he came in, needs time to mature. That’s one. I still say Big Mac should probably be a NT instead of a backup guard. The problem as I see it is giving a final judgement of our D line based on lining up against Michigan. We’re giving a lot of game snaps to redshirt and true freshmen and at least one Sophomore. George is a guy we can work with. The North Dakota DE is a beast. They’ll get there. Everybody talks development but few are willing to be patient with the guys who Rhule landed during his first FULL recruiting cycle.
The game wasn't that close. They never opened up the offense because they were dominating in the run game. They only had the ball for 10 minutes in the first half and were leading the entire time. And if we go for a fg on the first drive, there isn't a guarantee we make it. You should not win if you give up 10 ypc against the opposing RB, especially in the big 10. A hail mary and them playing prevent when up by 10 allowed us 14 of our 27 points. They easily scored 30 by just running it down our throats and rarely throwing.
Ehhh, they don't have an offense to open up, unless you just mean the QB run game.
When they play OSU later on...Underwood will have 25 runs.
Year 3. And our line stinks. There is a thing called a transfer portal and we failed to get a difference maker defensive tackle. Cignetti turns Indiana into a winner in his first year. Rhule is in his magical 3rd year and both of his lines stink. And it wasn’t just against Michigan. Our lines stank against Cincinnati too.
RVP is talented? You know this how? So far he just plays like a slow fat slob who can’t shed blockers.
RVP was born in 2004. That makes this youngster 21 years old already. **Edited**
I looked at a site called LINES and I'm not sure their data is credible. It is not.
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