FSU Football Players out of control - Fisher's seat starting to get hot.

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It turns out Florida State's days of wearing the black hat in college football did not end with Jameis Winston's departure for the NFL. On the contrary, Jimbo Fisher's program is taking on even more villainous status this offseason with two players in the same month accused of violence against a woman.

And in fact, the latest disturbing report Friday -- that an arrest warrant will be issued to FSU star running back Dalvin Cook, who, according to ESPN.com, allegedly punched a woman in the face "several times" outside of a bar -- puts Fisher in quite the moral bind.

[Update: Cook has been charged with misdemeanor battery. He turned himself in to authorities Friday night, according to the Leon County Sheriff’s Department.]

Earlier this week, the coach took swift action in dismissing quarterback De'Andre Johnson as soon as video surfaced of the redshirt freshman punching a woman inside a Tallahassee bar. The coach had previously suspended Johnson indefinitely pending an investigation. He was charged with misdemeanor battery based on the video evidence.

Sadly, yet another Seminoles player is now accused of punching a woman, with the alleged victim telling ESPN.com that Cook split her bottom lip after getting into an argument when she refused to give another man her phone number. A separate witness confirmed that ". . . the girl got punched in the mouth."

Florida State announced Friday it has suspended Cook indefinitely.

Fisher took a strong stand against violence toward women in dismissing Johnson, but the precedent he set may now paint him in a corner. Kicking a third-string quarterback off the team was one thing. If the allegations against Cook are true, will Fisher have the fortitude to do it to a preseason Heisman contender who stands accused of essentially the same transgression? Or will the lack of video evidence (so far) give him cover to dish out a more modest punishment?

The college football world will be watching closely. His program is exhibiting a troubling pattern of misdeeds by his players. And national scrutiny regarding violence against women has never been higher. Fisher faces considerable pressure to treat Cook in the same fashion he did Johnson, or he'll look like a hypocrite.

Notoriously defensive FSU fans will likely note, correctly, that off-field issues are hardly unique to their program. Sadly, player arrests are a rite of summer at many campuses. LSU, for one, recently dismissed defensive tackle Trey Lealaimatafao following his second arrest in a year and suspended three other players, including incumbent quarterback Anthony Jennings, following their arrests for an alleged apartment break-in.

But Florida State is under particular scrutiny for multiple reasons. For one thing, teams that win a national championship and 29 straight games garner more coverage than Music City Bowl teams. That's the way news works. Meanwhile, the apparent police bungling of Winston's 2012 rape investigation coupled with Fisher's repeated coddling of his star player despite numerous off-field incidents drew national ire. And subsequent investigations by the New York Times and others uncovered other players who apparently avoiding discipline for various misdeeds.

Fisher took a hard-line stance with Johnson's dismissal, but he didn't have much of a choice once the public saw that video. It's too soon to say how Cook's case will play out, but the details alleged Friday are indisputably awful if true.

Rightly or wrongly, Florida State has become notorious for the type of entitled and inexcusable behavior by young males that our society no longer tolerates. Fisher can't control what his players do late at night in the streets of Tallahassee, but he must choose carefully the message he decides to send about it.

Update (6:40 p.m. ET): FSU coach Jimbo Fisher released this statement Friday evening addressing both the Johnson and Cook incidents.

"Recent events at Florida State University involving members of my football team have brought a lot of attention to the school and program," Fisher said. "It is important to me that our fans and the public be aware that I do not tolerate the type of behavior that was captured on video and that was most recently alleged. We spend a good deal of time educating our student-athletes about appropriate behavior and their responsibilities as representatives of Florida State. The majority of our players are exemplary, but clearly we must place an even stronger emphasis on this, and I personally promise we will."

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...k-battery-deandre-johnson-jimbo-fisher-071015
 

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That incident forever changed that young man's life. And Fisher is quickly falling out of favor with some FSU alumni who think that the program is out of control.

 

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He will transfer to Marshall. He will be a perfect fit in Huntington and they could not care less about this sort of thing. aka: Moss
 

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FSU's Dalvin Cook charged with battery, suspended from team

"Recent events at Florida State University involving members of my football team have brought a lot of attention to the school and program. It is important to me that our fans and the public be aware that I do not tolerate the type of behavior that was captured on video and that was most recently alleged," Fisher said in a statement Friday.




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lol. Jimbo is absolutely not on the hot seat, not even close.
July 12, 2013..K Harris commits an armed home invasion-hostage situation wearing his team issued sweat pants..I don't, and never will believe that some football coach can monitor and be responsible for the actions of a 100 football players...impossible..
 

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July 12, 2013..K Harris commits an armed home invasion-hostage situation wearing his team issued sweat pants..I don't, and never will believe that some football coach can monitor and be responsible for the actions of a 100 football players...impossible..

Exactly.

Plus Florida State has never been, nor pretended to be a program that is a beacon of integrity. They care only about winning football games, and Jimbo does a fantastic job at doing just that.
 

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Jimbo Fisher Reportedly Bans FSU Players from Bars Amid Arrests, Controversy

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Florida State Seminoles head football coach Jimbo Fisher is reportedly laying down the internal law to keep his players out of trouble by banning them from bars.

Jim Henry of the Tallahassee Democrat reported on the strict disciplinary measure Saturday, which comes in response to multiple arrests and controversy surrounding the university's football program.

Freshman quarterback De'Andre Johnson was dismissed from the team July 6 after video surfaced (Warning: Footage is graphic) of him punching a young woman in a bar on June 24. Per Cassandra Vinograd and Gabe Gutierrez of NBC News, Johnson was allegedly provoked by "racial epithets," according to his lawyer.

Running back Dalvin Cook turned himself in on a misdemeanor battery charge Friday after allegedly punching a woman multiple times outside of a bar just one day before Johnson's incident, per the Democrat's Safid Deen and Karl Etters.

Florida State President John Thatcher released a statement in response to the legal issues Seminoles football players have encountered of late, an excerpt of which is below, courtesy of Henry:

As I have previously said, I have no tolerance for the type of behavior alleged in these cases. We expect all of our students, especially our student-athletes who represent this university in the public spotlight, to adhere to the highest standards.

I have asked Coach Fisher and Athletics Director Stan Wilcox to develop a plan to help our student-athletes understand the consequences of these kinds of actions. This will include Coach Fisher meeting immediately with his team to reiterate, in no uncertain terms, our expectations of them. I also plan to meet with the team, and we will be asking professionals who deal with these matters, including State Attorney Willie Meggs, to speak with them.

The article also included a statement from Fisher. The final line of it was a vow to "do better," and Fisher said he wouldn't accept anything short of that.

In swift response to the university president's request, Fisher has taken a big step toward ensuring his other players don't put themselves in compromising situations. The policy may be viewed as extreme to those who stay in line away from the gridiron, but recent events suggest such actions are necessary.

These incidents involving Johnson and Cook and prior quarterback Jameis Winston's multiple off-field issues leave the Seminoles with work to do to shore up the negative reputation they've gained.
 

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It turns out Florida State's days of wearing the black hat in college football did not end with Jameis Winston's departure for the NFL. On the contrary, Jimbo Fisher's program is taking on even more villainous status this offseason with two players in the same month accused of violence against a woman.

And in fact, the latest disturbing report Friday -- that an arrest warrant will be issued to FSU star running back Dalvin Cook, who, according to ESPN.com, allegedly punched a woman in the face "several times" outside of a bar -- puts Fisher in quite the moral bind.

[Update: Cook has been charged with misdemeanor battery. He turned himself in to authorities Friday night, according to the Leon County Sheriff’s Department.]

Earlier this week, the coach took swift action in dismissing quarterback De'Andre Johnson as soon as video surfaced of the redshirt freshman punching a woman inside a Tallahassee bar. The coach had previously suspended Johnson indefinitely pending an investigation. He was charged with misdemeanor battery based on the video evidence.

Sadly, yet another Seminoles player is now accused of punching a woman, with the alleged victim telling ESPN.com that Cook split her bottom lip after getting into an argument when she refused to give another man her phone number. A separate witness confirmed that ". . . the girl got punched in the mouth."

Florida State announced Friday it has suspended Cook indefinitely.

Fisher took a strong stand against violence toward women in dismissing Johnson, but the precedent he set may now paint him in a corner. Kicking a third-string quarterback off the team was one thing. If the allegations against Cook are true, will Fisher have the fortitude to do it to a preseason Heisman contender who stands accused of essentially the same transgression? Or will the lack of video evidence (so far) give him cover to dish out a more modest punishment?

The college football world will be watching closely. His program is exhibiting a troubling pattern of misdeeds by his players. And national scrutiny regarding violence against women has never been higher. Fisher faces considerable pressure to treat Cook in the same fashion he did Johnson, or he'll look like a hypocrite.

Notoriously defensive FSU fans will likely note, correctly, that off-field issues are hardly unique to their program. Sadly, player arrests are a rite of summer at many campuses. LSU, for one, recently dismissed defensive tackle Trey Lealaimatafao following his second arrest in a year and suspended three other players, including incumbent quarterback Anthony Jennings, following their arrests for an alleged apartment break-in.

But Florida State is under particular scrutiny for multiple reasons. For one thing, teams that win a national championship and 29 straight games garner more coverage than Music City Bowl teams. That's the way news works. Meanwhile, the apparent police bungling of Winston's 2012 rape investigation coupled with Fisher's repeated coddling of his star player despite numerous off-field incidents drew national ire. And subsequent investigations by the New York Times and others uncovered other players who apparently avoiding discipline for various misdeeds.

Fisher took a hard-line stance with Johnson's dismissal, but he didn't have much of a choice once the public saw that video. It's too soon to say how Cook's case will play out, but the details alleged Friday are indisputably awful if true.

Rightly or wrongly, Florida State has become notorious for the type of entitled and inexcusable behavior by young males that our society no longer tolerates. Fisher can't control what his players do late at night in the streets of Tallahassee, but he must choose carefully the message he decides to send about it.

Update (6:40 p.m. ET): FSU coach Jimbo Fisher released this statement Friday evening addressing both the Johnson and Cook incidents.

"Recent events at Florida State University involving members of my football team have brought a lot of attention to the school and program," Fisher said. "It is important to me that our fans and the public be aware that I do not tolerate the type of behavior that was captured on video and that was most recently alleged. We spend a good deal of time educating our student-athletes about appropriate behavior and their responsibilities as representatives of Florida State. The majority of our players are exemplary, but clearly we must place an even stronger emphasis on this, and I personally promise we will."

http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...k-battery-deandre-johnson-jimbo-fisher-071015



I don't have a link, but I saw another story about Cook online that said now he's also in trouble for mistreating 3 puppies. These guys must have too much time on their hands.

OK. It was last year he was caught in puppy-gate. Here's the link- www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/fsu...ries-that-need-to-come-back/ar-AAcxyUZ#page=5
 
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People in glass houses . . . Jimbo is not the only college coach facing this problem with 18 to 22 year olds. Hell, those in that age bracket who are NOT athletes are misbehaving as well. It goes with the age. Have you forgotten how terrible you were at that age. I haven't.

This is the time of the year that college football coaches hate. The players are less out of their control than when there are daily practices where you can wear out the players' youthful exhuberance and send them home so tired they only want to go to bed.

My alma mater certainly has had, and will have, before the GaSo opener, this problem. You can count on a news story about it. It's the nature of the age group and the microscope they are under if they do something wrong. Non-athletes do it and only their parents know, if even they do. But athletes do it and the world knows.

It's not an excuse because punching anyone, male or female, is wrong. DUIs are wrong. But don't jump on Jimbo because he's winning more than WVU and is a Clarksburg guy who got away from being hired as WVU's head coach. People who live in glass houses . . .
 

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FSU to Jimbo Fisher
YOU'RE ON NOTICE
Get Your Team Together Or Else
7/13/2015 2:29 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
breaking news
The ENTIRE Florida State University football program is on THIN ICE ... so says the FSU president who called an emergency team meeting today to warn the guys to STOP PUNCHING WOMEN!!!!

After TWO FSU players were arrested for allegedly attacking females in Tallahassee in June -- FSU president John Thrasher says he delivered a stern warning to the players and coaches .... including head coach Jimbo Fisher.

"I reiterated to our players that they simply cannot put themselves in situations that reflect poor behavior or cause harm to others," Thrasher says.

(Translation: Stop punching women)

"They must remember that playing football for FSU is a privilege, not a right."

(Translation: Stop punching women or you're off the team)

"The actions of a few have the capacity to do serious damage to the reputation of our entire university."

(Translation: We don't all punch women. Just some.)

Thrasher added, "I also told the coaches what is expected of them" ... which includes providing mentors, teach life skills and "do whatever is needed to help our student-athletes be good students and good citizens."

(Translation: We might fire you if more players punch women. But also maybe not.)

Stay tuned ...



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/fsu-president-to-jimbo-fisher-get-it-together-or-else/#ixzz3fowE1cOu
 

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People in glass houses . . . Jimbo is not the only college coach facing this problem with 18 to 22 year olds. Hell, those in that age bracket who are NOT athletes are misbehaving as well. It goes with the age. Have you forgotten how terrible you were at that age. I haven't.

This is the time of the year that college football coaches hate. The players are less out of their control than when there are daily practices where you can wear out the players' youthful exhuberance and send them home so tired they only want to go to bed.

My alma mater certainly has had, and will have, before the GaSo opener, this problem. You can count on a news story about it. It's the nature of the age group and the microscope they are under if they do something wrong. Non-athletes do it and only their parents know, if even they do. But athletes do it and the world knows.

It's not an excuse because punching anyone, male or female, is wrong. DUIs are wrong. But don't jump on Jimbo because he's winning more than WVU and is a Clarksburg guy who got away from being hired as WVU's head coach. People who live in glass houses . . .
we just had a player arrested for head-butting a Police Officer at a bar..a captain of the team..and this poster..for whatever bizarre reason wants to casts stones..
 

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FSU football players make a manly statement, "We don't take no she-ot off any be-och".
"We nok yo azz out"
 

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Fisher might have to fire that President if he doesn't mind his own business. Puttin' the university ahead of the football team. Nick Saban wouldn't put up with that kind of foolishness.
 
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Win at all costs. Count me out. Smells like VPI. Shameful & embarrassing to a school & its alums.

Jimbo may be the next Gene Chizik. Won it all with a highly controversial star.

These current Noles look at how Winston was handled & free to act like a buffoon.
 

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TOO FAR: Florida State blames bars for its players' misbehavior
In a bold statement regarding the seemingly rogue behavior of too many Florida State football players, university president John Thrasher and football coach Jimbo Fisher have announced that unlawful behavior will not be tolerated.

Well then, there you have it.

Apparently, at some point, unlawful behavior was, in fact, tolerated.

Do you think a special announcement is needed to address something so obvious and understood? Unless those making the announcement don't get it.

Additionally, on the heels of two separate incidents in which FSU football players allegedly punched/assaulted women at a bar, Fisher announced that players were now banned from bars.

So it's the bars that made them do it? As if the only place to get into an altercation or get a beer is a bar.

After Jameis Winston stole crab legs a few years ago and got into trouble, it's a wonder coach didn't ban players from grocery stores because, using the same logic, you wouldn't steal food from a business if it didn't sell it.

You can't blame inanimate objects for someone's bad behavior.

If there is a car wreck, it's not the car's fault. It was someone's bad decision that caused the problem.

Fisher is simply trying to deflect the criticism to bars when the problem lies where the buck stops. And that's with Fisher and every other school that allows in so many players with serious character issues because the guy can run a smokin' 40-yard dash.

The first incident involved De'Andre Johnson, who duked a woman in the face at a bar and was immediately dismissed from the team. He was a third-string quarterback and charged with misdemeanor battery.

The other alleged assailant/player, first-string star running back Dalvin Cook, allegedly split the lip of a lady (at, of course, a bar) and has also been charged with misdemeanor battery. Cook also has had various charges dismissed in the past and was cited last year for chaining the throats of three pitbull puppies so tightly together that they all nearly choked.

Seems like the kind of guy you'd trust housesitting your home for a week, right?

Oh, hi, Dalvin, go ahead, take the car for the weekend.

But the difference here is that first-stringer Cook has not been dismissed from the team – he's been suspended indefinitely (which likely means, he'll be back for the first game the team plays against a quality opponent). What's the difference?

Rather than banning bars, how about banning hitting women? How about a zero tolerance policy on something like that?

Does anyone actually think that, if a star running back is found in a bar, Fisher is going to sit him in a big game?

Fisher: "What were you doing in that bar?!"

Regular 21-year-old football player, "Uh, wearing khakis and eating chicken wings with my parents."

Too many programs (and don't tell me they are all the same) are given too much leeway and treated more like a sausage factory than a football program. They just want it to look and taste good and don't care how it's made. It's why some guys aren't allowed to give interviews. They can't speak the language, yet keep passing classes.

So while Fisher and Thrasher (sounds like a combo hunting outfitter/repo outfit) profess to not tolerate unlawful behavior by legal immigrants, Cook and Johnson (and probably most of the entire team) are all guilty of unlawful behavior. Both Cook and Johnson are under the legal drinking age of 21.

How are they getting into the bars and jabbing ladies?

You know why because it's the bars' fault.

Did you forget?

Move along. There's nothing to see here.

Dalvin is going to get help. He deserves a second chance. FSU IS his family and families don't turn their back on one another.

Unless you're third string.

Things have gone too far for too long.

http://www.publicopiniononline.com/sports/ci_28484688/too-far-florida-state-blames-bars-its-players