Funny how Dooley and Graham are Auburn candidates...
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...but that's about like Dennis Kucinich & Alan Keyes being candidates for president.
Auburn is going to hire a real coach.
That much we do know.
Auburn is going to hire a real coach.
That much we do know.
Why dont you get your head out of your *** and listen to what I said. I didnt say he wasnt successful at Louisville, I said he wasnt successful with his own players. He did well with a bunch of John L. Smiths players. And seriously man, when was the last time the option offense was run in the ACC? Pay attention son. We have a pretty good defense, and they beat the crap out of us because we arent used to seeing teams run the option, so we dont practice it. I guarantee you that teams in the ACC begin to figure out the option. I never said he wasnt a good coach, I said he runs an unconventional offense in a conference that doesnt play teams that run the option.
Doesn't really matter who we hire, I know tailgates will be a lot more fun next year with a high profile coach on the sidelines. Has anyone seen this new tailgate rental company??? www.asoutherntradition.blogspot.com A friend of mine used it at the Egg Bowl and said it was great. This Tailgate Rental will be set up and taken down for me. I don't have to transport equipment to and from the game, and after I am done celebrating the win I don't have the hassel of packing everything up--I can just walk away until the next game. The website is www.asoutherntradition.blogspot.com and the tailgate includes a team tent, 2 tables with team colored table cloths, 32 inch LCD flat screen tv, iPod sound dock radio, dish satellite access, 20 foot flagpole with team flag, rope lighting for night games, and everything to keep the tailgate powered! Just thought I would let my fellow tailgaters know about this great deal.
Youre right AzzurriDawg4, it would be way to easy. If it were that easy, would Kragthorpe still have his job at Louisville? They would have said, "Oh well you cant coach with someone elses players, that must mean you arent that good of a coach." Well since they didnt do that, I'm just gonna have to guess that it isnt that easy...
You dont pay attention. I said Chris Relf had the tools to become the next Jason Campbell. Never said he was the next Jason Campbell, so before you go trying to bust me for saying something get your facts straight. How many years did you watch Jason Campbell? Every game of his career? Well I did. Chris Relf could end up being a bust. Stuff happens. But he has the tool set to attain the same status as Jason Campbell did in college.
Its called a comparison. People do that from time to time when they want to make a point. Maybe youve heard of it. If you play tennis 3 hours a day and compete regularly against some of the toughest competition and actually show that you are decent at it, they yeah you would have the tools. Jason Campbells freshman year was very similar to Chris Relf's. Barely any playing time, but it was obvious that he has an upside due to his arm strength, and his ability to move around. If you want to gauge Relfs future career by our garbage O line giving him zero time to throw the ball and the deep bombs he threw down the field cuz the kid was trying to make plays in a no win situation, then go ahead. But when you actually watch what people do, like I did with Jason Campbell, then come back to me and then you can tell me if im wrong or not.
I think that Dooley is anonymously calling TV stations every time there is an opening to get his name out there. That is the only way he keeps being considered a "candidate". Derek Dooley was never a candidate for either job no matter what all of the idiot media sources tell you.
and I assume you are, as indicated by the above quote, then you are an idiot. All the guy does is win 10 games a year on a pretty consistent basis.
I would suggest that you stop posting since you clearly know nothing about college football.
Yeah, an overrated BYU team is there only win. I dont consider a schedule that includes Stephen F. Austin, SMU, Wyoming, New Mexico, and San Diego St. very tough. I know they won 10 games, its not like i just go around saying crap and not know what im talking about. Its very true that about 5 years ago they were a fairly higher profile team, and , and much so more then they are now. And they lost 5 games last year, one of which to Wyoming. They play in the Mountain West Conference, which isnt horrible because of Utah and BYU, but they need to be beating those type of teams on a consistent basis. I know all about their 10 wins, but until Patterson can hang with the ranked teams on a consistent basis, I want a little more experience in my head coach. A signature victory that shows he can play with the big boys, and he doesnt have that. Peterson does, and Tuberville does. Looks like Tuberville wont be here, so the next best option is Peterson. Plain and simple.
No big wins? They beat Oklahoma in 2005.
They lost 5 games last year? If 8-5 is a low point, that tells me he's pretty good and should be strongly considered by us.
You also contradict yourself by slighting their win over BYU and saying that he has to beat that type of team on a regular basis.
The guy has five seasons of 10 or more wins and you don't think he's that good of a good coach? It's not like he's in the Sun Belt.
I'm not saying he's the greatest candidate for us, but you act like he shouldn't be considered. Which is stupid.</p>
They lost 5 games last year? If 8-5 is a low point, that tells me he's pretty good and should be strongly considered by us.
You also contradict yourself by slighting their win over BYU and saying that he has to beat that type of team on a regular basis.
The guy has five seasons of 10 or more wins and you don't think he's that good of a good coach? It's not like he's in the Sun Belt.
I'm not saying he's the greatest candidate for us, but you act like he shouldn't be considered. Which is stupid.</p>
I dont think he should be considered. Every other team in the SEC feels entitled to a high profile coach that will get them publicity, recruits, and the best possible chance to go to a bowl game every year. I think we should feel entitled to find a coach like Bowden, like Tuberville, who have landed the big recruits, and who consistently take their teams to pretty decent bowl games. Since it seems like those 2 arent available, we go with the next best option. Chris Petersen is much higher profile than Patterson, especially after their more recent win than TCU's over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. Recruits, they are about dead even, because both teams dont really get many recruits above a 3 star. But the bowl games, and I'm talking most recently, go to Petersen. He's been to a BCS game more recently, and slayed the big team. He's the higher profile guy we need to get people reinterested in football again at State.
I like and prefer Petersen too (my argument is not Petersen vs. Patterson, like you're making it out to be), but to say Patterson shouldn't even be considered is ridiculous. He's done a very good job at TCU, and that shouldn't be dismissed.
I would take him over Bowden and Tubberville - Tubbs is burned out and Bowden underachieved at a school with more tradition and resources that was located in a weaker conference. No thanks.
I would take him over Bowden and Tubberville - Tubbs is burned out and Bowden underachieved at a school with more tradition and resources that was located in a weaker conference. No thanks.
I agree as well that Patterson has done a good job at TCU, and from a pure coaching standpoint, I can see your arguement for Patterson over Bowden, but not Tuberville. Tuberville has always been a good coach. Not necessarily the best role model with some of the stuff hes said over the years, but the man can coach, and the man can teach. When it comes to recruiting, Bowden and Tubs know how to get the big fish, which is why I would put them ahead of Patterson. I just think this university needs to make a big splash in trying to end the horrible performance of our football team, and I think Petersen, or Tubs, or Bowden does that for us. I think we need a higher profile coach to get things turned around for 3 to 5 years and get stuff set, then go out and take a chance at a Patterson or a Dooley or a Skip Holtz to come in after that and be the coach for an extended period of time. I just think a more experienced coach is the type of person we need to stop the bleeding weve had for 8 years now.
If you can give me a resonable explanation for why im an idiot, then I may consider that possibility. Until then, dont post again. Thats my opinion. Post yours, and we can talk about it, discuss it, whatever, but until then, stop posting useless garbage.
Well the fact that you said Patterson doesn't even deserve consideration doesn't help your cause much. He gets job offers every year it seems like and always turns them down. Yet we he doesnt even deserve consideration for our job
I just dont think he deserves serious consideration like most people think he does. Hes a good coach, and in the next 3 years he will probably be at a better school than TCU, but if State is serious about taking a step toward being competitive in the next 2 years, then hes not the guy. I think he needs some more time in the national spotllight to get his name out so people will begin to take him seriously. I think if Petersen, Tubs, and Bowden are not available, then he may be the best choice we have. I guess this basically boils down to me being upset that we are talking about Patterson and Dooley as great choices for head coaches when a team like Auburn is already talking about Leach, and Tennessee got Lane Kiffin, and last year Arkansas got Nutt, and a few years ago Bama got Saban. I wish it were time for us to get names thrown around and we could be almost guaranteed to get some one with a big name and a solid coaching record.
Tubberville, Bowden, Fulmer, Bower then. You have to take a chance and I would rather take a chance on someone that wants to prove themself in the SEC than somebody that is just going to use us their retairment fund.
First of all how much time does the guy need? he has been there for what 10 years? Which coincidentally is a hell of a lot longer than Petersen has been HC at BSU, who you say is ready.
And second, who on here says Dooley would be a great hire?
And second, who on here says Dooley would be a great hire?
I dont want Fulmer. I think hes a jerk and I dont like how he conducts business. I do think that in the current state our football program is in it would be more beneficial to us to have a more experienced coach. Some people disagree. Its all a matter of how a person thinks a program should be run. I think that an experienced coach like Tuberville would be the absolute best available at this current moment. But since it seems he isnt available, you have to go to the next best candidate, and I think that is Petersen. Now if he doesnt want to come here, then obviously we have to look and an up and coming coach. I just think this university would be doing itself a disservice if it didnt look into trying to hire Tuberville. Hes a proven winner, and he has a good track record with teams and a very good winning percentage in the SEC. Now if that falls thru, which it looks like it has, we may need to look into the possibility of hiring an up and coming coach like Patterson. Thats all im saying.
Patterson has been a HC for 9 years and is 48 years old. Petersen has been a HC for 3 years and is 44, yet he is the one with experience and Patterson is the up and coming coach. Do you even look at stats before you type this ****?mstatefan88 said:
It is quite arguable that Ron Paul was one of only a handful of candidates qualified to be president over the last 8 years. However, he was not a fan of the popular masses for untold reasons. So, you must be one of those sports fans that believes only what ESPN tells you to believe.
I didn't respond because this is a sports message board, but I proudly wrote in his name because he's the only person I've ever been able to vote for who was qualified.
Well obviously that should tell you something if the guy has been at the same non BCS school for 10 years and hasnt taken a promotion to a BCS school. Do you know how many job openings therer have been during that time? And he hasnt been chosen for one of them, or he has turned them down? Thats alot of jobs to not take. If he been promoted yet, maybe that says something about him. Maybe hes not ready. I dont know, but that is an awful long time to be at the same non BCS team and not take a promotion if hes that great.
A bunch of people have said Dooley would be a great hire. Go look on the 10 pages before this a you will see alot of pro Dooley talk.
A bunch of people have said Dooley would be a great hire. Go look on the 10 pages before this a you will see alot of pro Dooley talk.
And yes i do think about stuff before i post it. They are both up and coming coaches and Petersen is in the spotlight more right now. I dont think you get it. It is just an opinion. I dont care whether or not you agree with me. Patterson may be older and been at a school longer than Petersen, but some people mature faster in the coaching ranks than others. They are both up and coming coaches, and I think Petersen is better fit for the job. You can disagree and say i dont know what im talking about all you want, and you can compare their records all day, but i think Petersen is a better coach.