The strike would need to be resolved by Tuesday so the team could be back on the field by Wednesday to play, unless the Flyers would get permission to play on Saturday from opposing team then they could back it up a day
FYI regarding East St Louis and strike....
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Teams are back at practice today, but still cannot compete in games until strike ends.
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/education/article38952630.html
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/education/article38952630.html
Teams are back at practice today, but still cannot compete in games until strike ends.
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/education/article38952630.html
GE, are those the strikers?
wow...dysfunction certainly seems to be prevalent. Whenever negotiating, you need to have people empowered to commit/approve or you are just wasting your time.
Sounds like the District rep made an agreement the other's on the board wouldn't back. That always results in bad blood and is never productive.
Let's hope they recognize the path to compromise and get the boys back on the field.
Thanks GE
Sounds like the District rep made an agreement the other's on the board wouldn't back. That always results in bad blood and is never productive.
Let's hope they recognize the path to compromise and get the boys back on the field.
Thanks GE
It would be a significantly more difficult contest than the currently project Hersey (not trying to trash Hersey) who has beaten teams with a combined record of 6-22 and lost to three teams by a combined 91-27 with those three teams being of a similar quality to GW (Barr, Conant, HE). The MSE Conf is not exactly producing battle tested monsters.
ESL beat a very good Simeon team currently ranked 7 in 7A by AP. ESL would also be missing two weeks of bumps and bruises that GW picked up playing HC and OPRF.
ESL might also have a very large chip on their shoulder. The losses ESL experienced had been questioned due to an ungodly number of flags thrown. When teams play at GW, they tend to get few flags thrown. To be honest, a visiting team at GW hasn't had 5 accepted penalties in two years. So eliminate possible suspect (no I don't want to go back to the video issue) flags and and strike and ESL could be a 7-2 (Edwardsville loss) or possibly 8-1 team with only loss being to MCHS.
Sorry Hersey, but I would rather have you than ESL in the 1st round.
I'll tell you one thing if it were to happen and GW over looks ESL glenbard will get stomped!!!!
No worries boys. GW isn't looking past Proviso West, much less someone like ESL. Let's hope for resolution and ball games real quick. Cheers
I was think more along the lines of how competitive would ESL be without the last 2-3 weeks of practice/film study/conditioning/etc. Are the kids in football shape to go play a physical team like GW? Then get to take a bus 6 hours and play on a grass field against a team that wants to wear you down, and is arguably the best in the state.
Yes the kids are having "practice" but are they actually doing anything? Are the coaches there? Are they installing new plays, do they even have pads on, preparing?
Just my thoughts, I'm sure if ESL does get in, no one will be excited to see them round 1.
They would have two weeks of tune up games, so would be in their "week 3" with a week 14 mentality and a chip the size of the Duchon visitor stands on their shoulder.
ESL will be ready week 10...you can bet on that
ESL will be ready week 10...you can bet on that
The union and school board are meeting this afternoon after a long pause in negotiations. There are no reports of the union scheduling a vote or even receiving a new offer that the union leadership can review. It would take a few days to schedule and conduct a vote, which puts them beyond this week. If they aren't voting by tomorrow, it's over.
If this is true, this is truly a shame. I feel very sorry for the seniors and the rest of the team.Politics rears its ugly head in the sports world again. Crete Monee Warrior nation feels for Flyers football team and fans.
I guess the only hope is that negotiations take a huge step forward today/tonight and in good faith the strike is lifted as negotiations continue.
The ESL strike continues, with both sides walking away Thursday from the negotiating table after just 30 minutes. No classes in ESL today, and their opponent this week, Collinsville, is refusing to postpone the game to Sunday evening, just in case. I'm going out on a limb here and saying ESL will not be participating in week 10.
I know this sounds selfish but wouldn't it be nice if those kids can pick up and leave and play with any team for the playoffs be because of the strike.(sure would like a couple of players for our team.)
Articles in STL Post-Dispatch :
"East St. Louis football season on the brink"
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...cle_91e71382-14c8-5c75-a13a-f1e2ccd1624a.html
"Talks break down between East St. Louis district, teachers"
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_b657e935-cb51-5740-86c5-4fde3162ce5a.html
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In this video, District 189 superintendent says some things can only be solved over time, even if it takes months.
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article39248529.html
"East St. Louis football season on the brink"
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/high...cle_91e71382-14c8-5c75-a13a-f1e2ccd1624a.html
"Talks break down between East St. Louis district, teachers"
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_b657e935-cb51-5740-86c5-4fde3162ce5a.html
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In this video, District 189 superintendent says some things can only be solved over time, even if it takes months.
http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article39248529.html
What type of backlash are the teachers going to get from parents and the media when they do finally settle this strike.I would hate to be them when they do come back to work.
I thought football forfeit wins were officially 2-0 scores.
Those teachers don't give a dame about the kids. Any thing of value that goes into the school is stolen, they can't be trusted to oversee their own district and all they care about is posturing.
Disgusting humans.
Disgusting humans.
I sure hope so becuase you also have to remember most of those kids playing football is their way out of the neighborhood and that team is the pride of that community.My guy felling is that nobody is going to care what strikes are all about,just saying.
So when did administering a district fall on the shoulders of the teachers? Oh wait, that's the admins job. So saying these teachers don't care about the kids and then siting an problem with the administration is a little contradicting. I have sat in on a few classrooms in the East St. Louis district over the years and I have seen some wonderful individuals trying to make a difference in kids lives. For some of these students, coaches and teachers may be the only ones who do try and positively impact their futures.
Disgusting people, no... Ignorant posters, yes
ESL has the 23rd highest operating expense per student in Illinois. The $13197.64 per student (k-12) is more than Belleville pays ($11574.39 for high school, $10,284.29 for elementary), yet their performance is horrendous.
And those teachers want more money? Why - so they can fail more spectacularly?
And those teachers want more money? Why - so they can fail more spectacularly?
Whose performance is horrendous? I find it amusing that you place sole blame for the performance of the ESL district on the teachers.
I am outta this thread...cheers
Every year I have watched this match up, PW comes out hot and ready for the upset. By the 2nd quarter, things settle into a predictable pattern. The only reason it does fall into said pattern is because GW never looks past PW and knows that the only thing that separates them on the field is discipline.
Administration has no blame in this? I bet those costs per student would go way down if some admins took pay cuts, but that won't happen.
And the teachers want a contract, something they have been working without for over a year. Do they want more money? Who doesnt, but thats not the big hang-up here. There are bigger issues at work.
And the teachers want a contract, something they have been working without for over a year. Do they want more money? Who doesnt, but thats not the big hang-up here. There are bigger issues at work.
From where is that money supposed to come for this raise they want?
Admin is terrible too - but when there is nothing at the bottom of the well, then there is nothing to give. The end result is that kids are roaming the streets, missing out on an education.
Admin is terrible too - but when there is nothing at the bottom of the well, then there is nothing to give. The end result is that kids are roaming the streets, missing out on an education.
I will just say the current proposal that the Union rejected included a raise and a stipend. The sticking point is changing the current step system from 11 to 21.
Because the teachers are not getting the 4-7 percent hikes they want, but instead something that caps hikes at 3 percent, it was described as a pay decrease by the unions.