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TIA
This season has been visually stunning and a lot of fun to watch. That's it, though. Anyone who thinks the writing and pacing has been above a 10th grade film class is delusional. I understand it's fantasy and just a show, but it is still disappointing to have characters we've invested in for 7 seasons become two-dimensional cardboard cut-outs. Before this season, I felt like I had an emotional attachment to certain characters - Dany, Jon, Arya, Stansa, Jamie, Tyrion....but after these 5 episodes, I don't even care anymore. That sucks. And it's made even worse by how evident it is that D&D just wanted to get this over with and move on. Here's what's really pissed me off...
- Stop with the "Dany has always been that way" crap. No she hasn't, not like this, where she murders innocent men, women, and children street-by-street. Yes, she has been focused on the throne and on destroying anyone who gets in her way. That's why it makes NO sense for her to ignore the Red Keep, which contains Cersei and the Mountain, the two responsible for beheading Missandei, and instead take the time to kill innocent civilians who are NO threat to her whatsoever. [eyeroll]
- So, Jaime is stabbed, spitting up blood, barely able to crawl to his sword, essentially dead, then suddenly kills Euron, hops up and hikes on over to the Red Keep in order to die dramatically in Cersei's arms, which is completely counter to his entire "redemption." [eyeroll]
- What good is Bran, other than sitting there looking like Granny in "The Outlaw Josey Wales" making mysterious faces and vague comments. Die already. [eyeroll]
- Speaking of "die already," Sansa. Maybe it's Stark-fatigue syndrome, but get that perpetual scowl off your face, keep secrets, and stay in your damn lane. [eyeroll]
- Has anyone, besides Jon, become a bigger ***** than Tyrion? This season 8 Tyrion would've seen Tywin on the pot, closed the door shamefully, and begged his pardon for intruding. And he wouldn't have snitched on Varys. [eyeroll]
- Jon loves Dany and doesn't want the throne. Ok, so enjoy the benefits of banging the queen and get the hell out of the way. [eyeroll]
- So Dany, Drogon, and Rhaegal, hundreds of feet in the air, get surprised by the stealthy f'ing IRON FLEET and Rhaegal, again flying hundreds of feet in the air, gets killed by multiple precision-fired scorpion arrows mounted on moving ships on the sea, then Drogon dive bombs the ships, deftly avoiding every single arrow, then flys away without so much as a puff of smoke. Then a day or so later, Drogon destroys the Iron Fleet in a matter of seconds, then destroys every single scorpion in King's Landing before the soldiers can even get a shot off. [eyeroll]
- Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "I'm finally going to kill Cersei, top on my list forever."
Hound: "No. It's dangerous."
Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "A'ight. Good point. Best wishes."
[eyeroll]
- I want Ser Devos on the throne. He's the only one whose death I MIGHT care about.
This season has been visually stunning and a lot of fun to watch. That's it, though. Anyone who thinks the writing and pacing has been above a 10th grade film class is delusional. I understand it's fantasy and just a show, but it is still disappointing to have characters we've invested in for 7 seasons become two-dimensional cardboard cut-outs. Before this season, I felt like I had an emotional attachment to certain characters - Dany, Jon, Arya, Stansa, Jamie, Tyrion....but after these 5 episodes, I don't even care anymore. That sucks. And it's made even worse by how evident it is that D&D just wanted to get this over with and move on. Here's what's really pissed me off...
- Stop with the "Dany has always been that way" crap. No she hasn't, not like this, where she murders innocent men, women, and children street-by-street. Yes, she has been focused on the throne and on destroying anyone who gets in her way. That's why it makes NO sense for her to ignore the Red Keep, which contains Cersei and the Mountain, the two responsible for beheading Missandei, and instead take the time to kill innocent civilians who are NO threat to her whatsoever. [eyeroll]
- So, Jaime is stabbed, spitting up blood, barely able to crawl to his sword, essentially dead, then suddenly kills Euron, hops up and hikes on over to the Red Keep in order to die dramatically in Cersei's arms, which is completely counter to his entire "redemption." [eyeroll]
- What good is Bran, other than sitting there looking like Granny in "The Outlaw Josey Wales" making mysterious faces and vague comments. Die already. [eyeroll]
- Speaking of "die already," Sansa. Maybe it's Stark-fatigue syndrome, but get that perpetual scowl off your face, keep secrets, and stay in your damn lane. [eyeroll]
- Has anyone, besides Jon, become a bigger ***** than Tyrion? This season 8 Tyrion would've seen Tywin on the pot, closed the door shamefully, and begged his pardon for intruding. And he wouldn't have snitched on Varys. [eyeroll]
- Jon loves Dany and doesn't want the throne. Ok, so enjoy the benefits of banging the queen and get the hell out of the way. [eyeroll]
- So Dany, Drogon, and Rhaegal, hundreds of feet in the air, get surprised by the stealthy f'ing IRON FLEET and Rhaegal, again flying hundreds of feet in the air, gets killed by multiple precision-fired scorpion arrows mounted on moving ships on the sea, then Drogon dive bombs the ships, deftly avoiding every single arrow, then flys away without so much as a puff of smoke. Then a day or so later, Drogon destroys the Iron Fleet in a matter of seconds, then destroys every single scorpion in King's Landing before the soldiers can even get a shot off. [eyeroll]
- Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "I'm finally going to kill Cersei, top on my list forever."
Hound: "No. It's dangerous."
Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "A'ight. Good point. Best wishes."
[eyeroll]
- I want Ser Devos on the throne. He's the only one whose death I MIGHT care about.
This show deserved better writers.
The only real issue I’ve had this season was with Jaimie. What was the purpose of his trisk with Brienne? Then he immediately leaves to be with Cersei?
Either scenario by itself would make sense, but together it just felt forced.
After 7 seasons of slow burn with build up, this season feels rushed, but I imagine it’s harder to wrap up a story, than build on one. Especially when all the storylines have converged on one point. Prior there would be several storylines at play.
This sums it up:
Rewatched the show, and I’m not sure what all the hate is about. Last night while watching I had 3 kids distracting me and missing some spots, but other than not following the book I thought it was great.
I also watched the after show where the writers or whoever explain the extra unmentioned details.
Sometimes people really just have an unsatisfiable expectation, and in this case that is not the show, writers or producers fault.
I was coming here to post this exact video.
@Wildcat-in-STL it has nothing to do with people being pissed things didn’t go their way. You think everything went everyone’s way the first seven seasons when everyone loved it? Of course not but it was written and done spectacularly and it was great. This season has been written HORRIBLY. I normally agree with you but you have a huge blind spot here. When the majority of the viewers and critics hate it, when the actors themselves say it’s bad, then it’s bad man. It’s just a rushed, jumbled up **** show now.
Those leaks missed on one, maybe two things that were both pretty minor. If you go to the reddit leak page and look at it, it’s staggering how accurate it is.1. those leaks werent 100% correct so what they say will happen next week isnt 100% going to come true. especially because 2 things dont make a lick of sense
2. I've seen just as many critics say they love it ...... you're only looking in the places that validate your opinion. John Campea.. Collider....... 3 buck theater..... Thrones radio...... .among others...... and the ones I'm seeing that hated on the episode are all harping on Dany going mad and just hating it because she didnt stay a hero. Then you have Geeks and Gamers and Nerdrotic and other places that literally hate on everything.... because it gives more hits on social media and youtube.
The writing is rushed.... but its not horrible. You write the season then. You think its written horrible......... then write everything and make it make complete sense.... GO... I want to hear it. write the season in 6 episodes.......... the same 2 guys that wrote the first 7 seasons wrote the 8th. they didnt forget how to write..
agreed, they're probably pretty disgusted with the writing/producing too.This show deserved better producers as well. The actors are pretty legit though.
Who knew, women with power go batshit crazy? Writers kind of got that part right imo.
Also Jon could have banged her and she would have been a little more laid back.
She had it all going against her, and it was clearly a reaction based on pent up aggression.
Bigblueinsanity, we spoke a couple weeks ago about the Azor Ahai prophecy and how you were disappointed it wasn’t fulfilled. I said to chill and give it time, maybe they will address it. Well, it seems unlikely that they will. So I am with you in that disappointment. Wish they had a “chosen one” to fulfill that prophecy. Oh well.
LOL. And your opinions are not facts.
first off Dany has said in seasons past she was going to go in and destroy westeros including the innocents and Tyr had to talk sense into her.
Bottom line, in my opinion, is that the pacing and writing were rushed and half-assed and undercut many of the characters they've developed over 7 seasons. If this was going to be the conclusion, they needed another season or two to explain it.
Dany wanted the throne, she got the throne. That's been her goal all along. What was the point of slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children. That's the part I don't understand. That's the part that isn't explained and is inconsistent with Dany's character.
Shes been turning pretty power hungry for awhile now..and shes always had flashes of authoritarianism when jorah and missandei arent around.Dany wanted the throne, she got the throne. That's been her goal all along. What was the point of slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children. That's the part I don't understand. That's the part that isn't explained and is inconsistent with Dany's character.