Game of Thrones Season Eight Thread

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This season has been visually stunning and a lot of fun to watch. That's it, though. Anyone who thinks the writing and pacing has been above a 10th grade film class is delusional. I understand it's fantasy and just a show, but it is still disappointing to have characters we've invested in for 7 seasons become two-dimensional cardboard cut-outs. Before this season, I felt like I had an emotional attachment to certain characters - Dany, Jon, Arya, Stansa, Jamie, Tyrion....but after these 5 episodes, I don't even care anymore. That sucks. And it's made even worse by how evident it is that D&D just wanted to get this over with and move on. Here's what's really pissed me off...

  • Stop with the "Dany has always been that way" crap. No she hasn't, not like this, where she murders innocent men, women, and children street-by-street. Yes, she has been focused on the throne and on destroying anyone who gets in her way. That's why it makes NO sense for her to ignore the Red Keep, which contains Cersei and the Mountain, the two responsible for beheading Missandei, and instead take the time to kill innocent civilians who are NO threat to her whatsoever. [eyeroll]
  • So, Jaime is stabbed, spitting up blood, barely able to crawl to his sword, essentially dead, then suddenly kills Euron, hops up and hikes on over to the Red Keep in order to die dramatically in Cersei's arms, which is completely counter to his entire "redemption." [eyeroll]
  • What good is Bran, other than sitting there looking like Granny in "The Outlaw Josey Wales" making mysterious faces and vague comments. Die already. [eyeroll]
  • Speaking of "die already," Sansa. Maybe it's Stark-fatigue syndrome, but get that perpetual scowl off your face, keep secrets, and stay in your damn lane. [eyeroll]
  • Has anyone, besides Jon, become a bigger ***** than Tyrion? This season 8 Tyrion would've seen Tywin on the pot, closed the door shamefully, and begged his pardon for intruding. And he wouldn't have snitched on Varys. [eyeroll]
  • Jon loves Dany and doesn't want the throne. Ok, so enjoy the benefits of banging the queen and get the hell out of the way. [eyeroll]
  • So Dany, Drogon, and Rhaegal, hundreds of feet in the air, get surprised by the stealthy f'ing IRON FLEET and Rhaegal, again flying hundreds of feet in the air, gets killed by multiple precision-fired scorpion arrows mounted on moving ships on the sea, then Drogon dive bombs the ships, deftly avoiding every single arrow, then flys away without so much as a puff of smoke. Then a day or so later, Drogon destroys the Iron Fleet in a matter of seconds, then destroys every single scorpion in King's Landing before the soldiers can even get a shot off. [eyeroll]
  • Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "I'm finally going to kill Cersei, top on my list forever."
    Hound: "No. It's dangerous."
    Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "A'ight. Good point. Best wishes."
    [eyeroll]
  • I want Ser Devos on the throne. He's the only one whose death I MIGHT care about.

Tyrion, arguably, has had the worst arc of all main character. Actor that plays Tyrion even questioned his intelligence. Lol

Of course they seem to have ****** up Bran, Jaime, Dany,....oh wait pretty much all the characters .:joy::joy::joy:
 
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This season has been visually stunning and a lot of fun to watch. That's it, though. Anyone who thinks the writing and pacing has been above a 10th grade film class is delusional. I understand it's fantasy and just a show, but it is still disappointing to have characters we've invested in for 7 seasons become two-dimensional cardboard cut-outs. Before this season, I felt like I had an emotional attachment to certain characters - Dany, Jon, Arya, Stansa, Jamie, Tyrion....but after these 5 episodes, I don't even care anymore. That sucks. And it's made even worse by how evident it is that D&D just wanted to get this over with and move on. Here's what's really pissed me off...

  • Stop with the "Dany has always been that way" crap. No she hasn't, not like this, where she murders innocent men, women, and children street-by-street. Yes, she has been focused on the throne and on destroying anyone who gets in her way. That's why it makes NO sense for her to ignore the Red Keep, which contains Cersei and the Mountain, the two responsible for beheading Missandei, and instead take the time to kill innocent civilians who are NO threat to her whatsoever. [eyeroll]
  • So, Jaime is stabbed, spitting up blood, barely able to crawl to his sword, essentially dead, then suddenly kills Euron, hops up and hikes on over to the Red Keep in order to die dramatically in Cersei's arms, which is completely counter to his entire "redemption." [eyeroll]
  • What good is Bran, other than sitting there looking like Granny in "The Outlaw Josey Wales" making mysterious faces and vague comments. Die already. [eyeroll]
  • Speaking of "die already," Sansa. Maybe it's Stark-fatigue syndrome, but get that perpetual scowl off your face, keep secrets, and stay in your damn lane. [eyeroll]
  • Has anyone, besides Jon, become a bigger ***** than Tyrion? This season 8 Tyrion would've seen Tywin on the pot, closed the door shamefully, and begged his pardon for intruding. And he wouldn't have snitched on Varys. [eyeroll]
  • Jon loves Dany and doesn't want the throne. Ok, so enjoy the benefits of banging the queen and get the hell out of the way. [eyeroll]
  • So Dany, Drogon, and Rhaegal, hundreds of feet in the air, get surprised by the stealthy f'ing IRON FLEET and Rhaegal, again flying hundreds of feet in the air, gets killed by multiple precision-fired scorpion arrows mounted on moving ships on the sea, then Drogon dive bombs the ships, deftly avoiding every single arrow, then flys away without so much as a puff of smoke. Then a day or so later, Drogon destroys the Iron Fleet in a matter of seconds, then destroys every single scorpion in King's Landing before the soldiers can even get a shot off. [eyeroll]
  • Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "I'm finally going to kill Cersei, top on my list forever."
    Hound: "No. It's dangerous."
    Arya, badass faceless chameleon jedi ninja master: "A'ight. Good point. Best wishes."
    [eyeroll]
  • I want Ser Devos on the throne. He's the only one whose death I MIGHT care about.

LOL. And your opinions are not facts. first off Dany has said in seasons past she was going to go in and destroy westeros including the innocents and Tyr had to talk sense into her. try watching and remembering the show.
 

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The only real issue I’ve had this season was with Jaimie. What was the purpose of his trisk with Brienne? Then he immediately leaves to be with Cersei?
Either scenario by itself would make sense, but together it just felt forced.

After 7 seasons of slow burn with build up, this season feels rushed, but I imagine it’s harder to wrap up a story, than build on one. Especially when all the storylines have converged on one point. Prior there would be several storylines at play.
 
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The only real issue I’ve had this season was with Jaimie. What was the purpose of his trisk with Brienne? Then he immediately leaves to be with Cersei?
Either scenario by itself would make sense, but together it just felt forced.

After 7 seasons of slow burn with build up, this season feels rushed, but I imagine it’s harder to wrap up a story, than build on one. Especially when all the storylines have converged on one point. Prior there would be several storylines at play.

Dude loved to bone and had no borders and limits
 
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Rewatched the show, and I’m not sure what all the hate is about. Last night while watching I had 3 kids distracting me and missing some spots, but other than not following the book I thought it was great.

I also watched the after show where the writers or whoever explain the extra unmentioned details.

Sometimes people really just have an unsatisfiable expectation, and in this case that is not the show, writers or producers fault.
 

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This sums it up:


I was coming here to post this exact video.

@Wildcat-in-STL it has nothing to do with people being pissed things didn’t go their way. You think everything went everyone’s way the first seven seasons when everyone loved it? Of course not but it was written and done spectacularly and it was great. This season has been written HORRIBLY. I normally agree with you but you have a huge blind spot here. When the majority of the viewers and critics hate it, when the actors themselves say it’s bad, then it’s bad man. It’s just a rushed, jumbled up **** show now.

Bran is appointed new king of the Iron throne.
 
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Rewatched the show, and I’m not sure what all the hate is about. Last night while watching I had 3 kids distracting me and missing some spots, but other than not following the book I thought it was great.

I also watched the after show where the writers or whoever explain the extra unmentioned details.

Sometimes people really just have an unsatisfiable expectation, and in this case that is not the show, writers or producers fault.

Didn't follow the book? Which book? The final book isn't written yet
 

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I was coming here to post this exact video.

@Wildcat-in-STL it has nothing to do with people being pissed things didn’t go their way. You think everything went everyone’s way the first seven seasons when everyone loved it? Of course not but it was written and done spectacularly and it was great. This season has been written HORRIBLY. I normally agree with you but you have a huge blind spot here. When the majority of the viewers and critics hate it, when the actors themselves say it’s bad, then it’s bad man. It’s just a rushed, jumbled up **** show now.

1. those leaks werent 100% correct so what they say will happen next week isnt 100% going to come true. especially because 2 things dont make a lick of sense

2. I've seen just as many critics say they love it ...... you're only looking in the places that validate your opinion. John Campea.. Collider....... 3 buck theater..... Thrones radio...... .among others...... and the ones I'm seeing that hated on the episode are all harping on Dany going mad and just hating it because she didnt stay a hero. Then you have Geeks and Gamers and Nerdrotic and other places that literally hate on everything.... because it gives more hits on social media and youtube.

The writing is rushed.... but its not horrible. You write the season then. You think its written horrible......... then write everything and make it make complete sense.... GO... I want to hear it. write the season in 6 episodes.......... the same 2 guys that wrote the first 7 seasons wrote the 8th. they didnt forget how to write..

Although I dont know why I'm even trying to talk sense into you... nothing makes you happy. Not Cal. Not Stoops... Basketball or Football.... recruiting... making final fours..... why would I think you'd listen to reason on a fantasy show.
 
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1. those leaks werent 100% correct so what they say will happen next week isnt 100% going to come true. especially because 2 things dont make a lick of sense

2. I've seen just as many critics say they love it ...... you're only looking in the places that validate your opinion. John Campea.. Collider....... 3 buck theater..... Thrones radio...... .among others...... and the ones I'm seeing that hated on the episode are all harping on Dany going mad and just hating it because she didnt stay a hero. Then you have Geeks and Gamers and Nerdrotic and other places that literally hate on everything.... because it gives more hits on social media and youtube.

The writing is rushed.... but its not horrible. You write the season then. You think its written horrible......... then write everything and make it make complete sense.... GO... I want to hear it. write the season in 6 episodes.......... the same 2 guys that wrote the first 7 seasons wrote the 8th. they didnt forget how to write..
Those leaks missed on one, maybe two things that were both pretty minor. If you go to the reddit leak page and look at it, it’s staggering how accurate it is.

Seems like you’re the one seeking out places to validate your opinion. I’m going off Rotten Tomatoes, Reddit and google. 3 of the biggest platforms there is. But whatever, you’re clearly going to keep sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming “lalalalalalala” to every post showing how terrible the season has been.

Btw, to the ones that say this is how Martin told them it would play out, watch that video posted a page or two ago. He specifically says when you go changing **** just because fans have figured out what’s coming that you’re ruining your story. No chance he was going to take this same path. Specifically Arya killing the NK, that’s clearly a Dumb and Dumber change that they made.
 

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have they ever said how the first white walker in season 1 got around the wall ?




also @ZaytovenCat they filmed different endings..... The person leaking it may be hearing about the wrong ending.
 

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Anyone complaining about her going crazy didn’t pay attention.

1- She spoke on the mercy being a strength, but Cersei takes it as a weakness. So when that bell rung she was not prepared to just stop and let them surrender.

Rightfully so after she had to watch them unmercifully kill one of the nicest caring characters in the show.

2- as the bell rung she was staring at the red keep and knew her people were responsible for it being built, and there was no mercy shown in killing the mad king.

Then you add in the fact Tyrion had wronged her a few times and begged her if the bell rings to let everything stop and give them a chance be serve her. She had lost trust in him to give the right advice.


Those things considered, and she came to destroy KL anyway so her going “crazy” made sense.

Now everyone clearly realizes they need to question their loyalty which was unmentioned, but shown by the disbelief in what she was doing after the bell rung.
 
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In the books missendei was also her lover of sorts. And much more a confidant than the series showed imo. Gives a better context why that death wounded her so badly.

Instead they created a greyworm romance storyline which was absurd. He was a eunuch. Also the unsullied were completely deprogrammed and devoid of any emotion whatsoever. Also makes his rage filled killing spree absurd x 2
 

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Also Jon could have banged her and she would have been a little more laid back.

She had it all going against her, and it was clearly a reaction based on pent up aggression.
 
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I liked it. Arya regained her humanity. Dany lost hers. Only part that disappointed me was Cersei somewhat escaping justice
 

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Missendei was 10 years old in the books when she was first introduced. Not sure the how many years past in the books after she was introduced.
 
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Also Jon could have banged her and she would have been a little more laid back.

She had it all going against her, and it was clearly a reaction based on pent up aggression.

Given that Jamie is already leading the pack on the banging ability, he too could have taken one for the team. Just imagine if he got Dany pregnant too. It would have been Jerry Springer: game of thrones edition.
 

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Im choosing to accept the show. I could go back and nitpick at things from early seasons that GRRM wrote too if I really wanted to.

Dany went crazy. Why do we have to understand why? I honestly think she was just extremely paranoid after Jon basically admitted he didn’t want to be with her. Regardless, she went crazy. Accept it. Cersei didn’t go out like we wanted. She’s still dead. I understand the frustration but it doesn’t take away from the show, IMO.

Bigblueinsanity, we spoke a couple weeks ago about the Azor Ahai prophecy and how you were disappointed it wasn’t fulfilled. I said to chill and give it time, maybe they will address it. Well, it seems unlikely that they will. So I am with you in that disappointment. Wish they had a “chosen one” to fulfill that prophecy. Oh well.
 
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Bigblueinsanity, we spoke a couple weeks ago about the Azor Ahai prophecy and how you were disappointed it wasn’t fulfilled. I said to chill and give it time, maybe they will address it. Well, it seems unlikely that they will. So I am with you in that disappointment. Wish they had a “chosen one” to fulfill that prophecy. Oh well.

It's just bizarre. THE central theme to the entire story just omitted. I just don't get it.

The season is still good entertainment. But it could've capped an otherwise truly great series
 

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LOL. And your opinions are not facts.

Exactly, so why do they bother you so bad?

first off Dany has said in seasons past she was going to go in and destroy westeros including the innocents and Tyr had to talk sense into her.

That implies that it was pre-meditated, but D&D said after the show that Dany decided, in the moment, to make it "personal." All of the stuff she's said in seasons past has been in the context of winning the throne, not wholesale massacre of innocents for the hell of it. The throne was hers. Kings Landing was hers. There was NO reason to burn the city, completely ignoring the Red Keep. It made no sense. I'm not saying Dany becoming the Mad Queen wouldn't make sense, but not in a matter of an episode or two, simply because Jon wouldn't kiss her back. The Jon-Dany bond was flimsily written anyhow. Completely unbelievable.

Bottom line, in my opinion, is that the pacing and writing were rushed and half-assed and undercut many of the characters they've developed over 7 seasons. If this was going to be the conclusion, they needed another season or two to explain it.
 
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Dany snapping makes sense and I don’t see how people can’t understand it. All her life she was told how the people of Westeros are just waiting for the Targaryens to come home and reclaim the throne. That wasn’t true at all. The common folk enjoyed peace and prosperity for the most part during Robert’s reign and that’s all they really care about.

Then add in the fact that her entire inner circle with the exception of Grey Worm is dead or has turned on her AND the fact that she isn’t even the rightful heir to the throne.
 

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Dany wanted the throne, she got the throne. That's been her goal all along. What was the point of slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children. That's the part I don't understand. That's the part that isn't explained and is inconsistent with Dany's character.
 
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Bottom line, in my opinion, is that the pacing and writing were rushed and half-assed and undercut many of the characters they've developed over 7 seasons. If this was going to be the conclusion, they needed another season or two to explain it.

I agree with that result just not how they got there. Her whole life she fought the impulse of death and fire. At times she gave in, but that was the exception not the rule. Still we could all see that building. They just didn't give it the depth such a heel turn deserved
 
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After watching parts of it again she may not have flipped out quite as sudden as it appeared.

She let them all know that she was skeptical of the city surrendering, she said that was something Cersi would want you to think and once fooled they would be vulnerable. In part she may have kept going to make darn sure there wasn't a plan to fool her. She even said before they went in that she wasn't worried so much about the people living there as it was the next generation she wanted to rule (something to that effect)

She has been shown up several times do to Tyrion's bad calls, she knows none of the people there now care a bit about her. She probably wanted to make a name for herself and conquer the city much like some of her past family would have done. As she told Jon Snow... let it be fear.
 

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Dany wanted the throne, she got the throne. That's been her goal all along. What was the point of slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children. That's the part I don't understand. That's the part that isn't explained and is inconsistent with Dany's character.

The reasons I listed in my last post. She has the throne, but doesn’t have the people’s love. She also lost two of her dragons and about 90% of her friends/advisors. Plus there’s the issue of her nephew (who she’s banging) having a superior claim.

Every Targaryen is susceptible to madness, presumably due to generations of incest.
 

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So I guess in the last episode Dany tries to kill Jon, but he kills her. Doesnt want to be king and establishes there is no more iron throne but someone over each area. Sansa in the north, yara in iron islands , bronn, gendry, etc.
 

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Dany wanted the throne, she got the throne. That's been her goal all along. What was the point of slaughtering thousands of innocent men, women, and children. That's the part I don't understand. That's the part that isn't explained and is inconsistent with Dany's character.
Shes been turning pretty power hungry for awhile now..and shes always had flashes of authoritarianism when jorah and missandei arent around.

Plus the whole mad king thing is in her blood. The whole "the gods flip a coin when a targaryen is born"
 
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Danny has been fighting back crazy during the entire series, she’s delusional in always thinking she was destined for the throne. She was always a snapper that was destined to find a fuse that set her crazy off. Jon wouldn’t give her the snow snake so she killed thousands, we’ve all known crazy beeches.
 
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