I wanted to see the points here but no way am I watching 17+ minutes of those goons to get to said points.
Game of Thrones Thread
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This season has been insulting, to say the least. Series about to go Dexter on us.
Really? You're insulted by Game of Thrones - Season 7?
The last two episodes were absolutely terrible. I'm not sure why this is some sort of controversy.
I think it's been the best season myself. The spoils of war episode and last weeks were really good. I like dragons and no amount of crappy scripting can ruin that.
The writers/directors, or whatever they are called for last weeks admitted they had to fudge the timeline to get the dragons there, it wasn't like they could spend 4 days on that hill and people were going to believe that was possible either.
If this weeks is as good as those two I'd say it's has to be the best season hands down.
The writers/directors, or whatever they are called for last weeks admitted they had to fudge the timeline to get the dragons there, it wasn't like they could spend 4 days on that hill and people were going to believe that was possible either.
If this weeks is as good as those two I'd say it's has to be the best season hands down.
Language is NSFW or little kids, but here ya go
The timeline fudging is dumb. If the timeline doesn't work out...come up with something that does. That's your job.
Also, like Hank said earlier...they've totally gone away from what made characters great. Tyrion, one of the best strategists in Westeros, would never go along with the capture a wight ********.
Also, like Hank said earlier...they've totally gone away from what made characters great. Tyrion, one of the best strategists in Westeros, would never go along with the capture a wight ********.
I thought it was a good episode as well.
GOT is no different than every other show that has closed in on its series finale. The writers try to tie up loose ends, and meld the storylines together. It gets a little sloppy.
Uncle BenJen showing up was nothing more than finishing his story, I would bet there's going to be a reason in the bigger picture to show the audience that he isn't wandering north of the wall.
That's not even uncle benjin, it's cold hands. You should keep up with the plot
Except when Jon Snow said, "Uncle Benjin" when he showed up...
Yep, definitely not him...he may be "Cold Hands" now, but he's still Uncle Benjin to Jon.
Yep, definitely not him...he may be "Cold Hands" now, but he's still Uncle Benjin to Jon.
The only plausible reason for Jon and company to do something so stupid as to go behind the wall was just so that they could fit the knight king's acquisition of a dragon into the series. I mean if that was to be a given no matter what they had to show us that it happened and scratch something down to play out how it did. Don't let the little things derail the big picture.
Its absolutely benjen, now described as cold hands due to his current state.
For such a smug post, perhaps you should follow your own advice.
Actually in the books it's unknown who cold hands is, and the writers of this show have alluded to the fact that at this point it may be something that's taken over benjins body. Which is why they don't call him benjin and they call him cold hands. But whatever floats your boat
Pretty much.
When "the only plausible explanation" for something idiotic is that the writers were too lazy to do their job, that's a problem, especially for a show that has been awesome for years.
"Cold Hands" is a book term. I don't recall him ever being called that in the show. So non-book readers wouldn't know that term. Don't be a book elitist.
Even if he had been called Cold Hands in the show, who the F cares if he called him Benjen? That IS Benjen...
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Apparently GRRM put a note in a manuscript that Coldhands is not Benjen. So while Benjen is the obvious culprit, it apparently is not him.
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Basically, what this guy is saying is to (to borrow a line from the MST3K theme song) "repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax".....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
The term suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief has been defined as a willingness to suspend one's critical faculties and believe the unbelievable; sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment.[1] The term was coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who suggested that if a writer could infuse a "human interest and a semblance of truth" into a fantastic tale, the reader would suspend judgement concerning the implausibility of the narrative. Suspension of disbelief often applies to fictional works of the action, comedy, fantasy, and horror genres. Cognitive estrangement in fiction involves using a person's ignorance to promote suspension of disbelief.[citation needed]
The phrase "suspension of disbelief" came to be used more loosely in the later 20th century, often used to imply that the burden was on the reader, rather than the writer, to achieve it. This might be used to refer to the willingness of the audience to overlook the limitations of a medium, so that these do not interfere with the acceptance of those premises. These fictional premises may also lend to the engagement of the mind and perhaps proposition of thoughts, ideas, art and theories.[2]
Suspension of disbelief is often an essential element for a magic act or a circus sideshow act. For example, an audience is not expected to actually believe that a woman is cut in half or transforms into a gorilla[3] in order to enjoy the performance.
According to the theory, suspension of disbelief is an essential ingredient for any kind of storytelling. With any film, the viewer has to ignore the reality that they are viewing a two-dimensional moving image on a screen and temporarily accept it as reality in order to be entertained. Black-and-white films provide an obvious early example that audiences are willing to suspend disbelief, no matter how unreal the images appear, for the sake of entertainment. With the exception of totally color blind people, no person viewing these films sees the real world without color, but they are still willing to suspend disbelief and accept the images in order to be entertained. Suspension of disbelief is also supposed to be essential for the enjoyment of many films and television shows involving complex stunts, special effects, and seemingly unrealistic plots, characterizations, etc.
The term suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief has been defined as a willingness to suspend one's critical faculties and believe the unbelievable; sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment.[1] The term was coined in 1817 by the poet and aesthetic philosopher Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who suggested that if a writer could infuse a "human interest and a semblance of truth" into a fantastic tale, the reader would suspend judgement concerning the implausibility of the narrative. Suspension of disbelief often applies to fictional works of the action, comedy, fantasy, and horror genres. Cognitive estrangement in fiction involves using a person's ignorance to promote suspension of disbelief.[citation needed]
The phrase "suspension of disbelief" came to be used more loosely in the later 20th century, often used to imply that the burden was on the reader, rather than the writer, to achieve it. This might be used to refer to the willingness of the audience to overlook the limitations of a medium, so that these do not interfere with the acceptance of those premises. These fictional premises may also lend to the engagement of the mind and perhaps proposition of thoughts, ideas, art and theories.[2]
Suspension of disbelief is often an essential element for a magic act or a circus sideshow act. For example, an audience is not expected to actually believe that a woman is cut in half or transforms into a gorilla[3] in order to enjoy the performance.
According to the theory, suspension of disbelief is an essential ingredient for any kind of storytelling. With any film, the viewer has to ignore the reality that they are viewing a two-dimensional moving image on a screen and temporarily accept it as reality in order to be entertained. Black-and-white films provide an obvious early example that audiences are willing to suspend disbelief, no matter how unreal the images appear, for the sake of entertainment. With the exception of totally color blind people, no person viewing these films sees the real world without color, but they are still willing to suspend disbelief and accept the images in order to be entertained. Suspension of disbelief is also supposed to be essential for the enjoyment of many films and television shows involving complex stunts, special effects, and seemingly unrealistic plots, characterizations, etc.
Some of you need to just enjoy the show for what it is and stop trying to pretend that you are smarter than you really are.
You all are missing the point.
Sure it's a fantasy show, but to this point, the plots and story lines have been done in a consistent and believable way. That's why it's been ones of the best shows ever.
Introducing inconsistencies and moronic plot lines to advance the show cheapens what was done the first 6.5 seasons.
It was the same with the walking dead. I could suspend reality for the whole zombie thing. And whatever, they're running around shooting guns, even in a concrete prison, with no impact on hearing. Well except when it's convenient for the plotline to now make gunfire impact someone's hearing or disorient them.
It's lazy writing to have inconsistencies like that and makes people start to focus on the **** not being real rather than just enjoying the story.
Sure it's a fantasy show, but to this point, the plots and story lines have been done in a consistent and believable way. That's why it's been ones of the best shows ever.
Introducing inconsistencies and moronic plot lines to advance the show cheapens what was done the first 6.5 seasons.
It was the same with the walking dead. I could suspend reality for the whole zombie thing. And whatever, they're running around shooting guns, even in a concrete prison, with no impact on hearing. Well except when it's convenient for the plotline to now make gunfire impact someone's hearing or disorient them.
It's lazy writing to have inconsistencies like that and makes people start to focus on the **** not being real rather than just enjoying the story.
Exactly.
This was one of the best television shows ever, in part, because of its treatment of magic in a world that is otherwise realistic and because of the realism of its characters.
To just abandon that in the last act is a slap in the face to fans.
Understandble, but they didn't have infinite time and money. They had to end the show, so just like some other like bloodline or whatever it doesn't end perfect because they ran out of episodes.
Bloodline was a marginally successful show canceled by Netflix because the viewership wasn't there. There is no comparison you can draw between these two shows.
The GOT writers' desire to avoid looking like they are milking it and pissing off fans has had the opposite impact. I certainly don't think they're too far gone to turn it around with season 8 and still come out golden at the end, but the last couple episodes have hurt the legacy to a small degree. The end of this season will always have an asterisk by it, IMO.
I'm still enjoying it....but to say the end of this season hasn't been unnecessarily forced through is simply denial.
The GOT writers' desire to avoid looking like they are milking it and pissing off fans has had the opposite impact. I certainly don't think they're too far gone to turn it around with season 8 and still come out golden at the end, but the last couple episodes have hurt the legacy to a small degree. The end of this season will always have an asterisk by it, IMO.
I'm still enjoying it....but to say the end of this season hasn't been unnecessarily forced through is simply denial.
I'm pretty sure the dude committed treason and killed an entire tavern full of people for a chicken.
The chances of him wanting his sausage sullied with oats are marginal. Learn science.
The show has always been on shaky footing when it deviated from GRRM's canon. Well, now we're getting episodes that have large plot devices/structures which are likely COMPLETELY different from what GRRM will eventually write (if he doesn't die first), hence the wild unevenness between and within episodes.
lot of people think they're rushing through to the end too quickly. But maybe they're not wrapping it up quickly enough?
The Walkers WILL be past the Wall by the end of the next episode, that's a certainty. Not sure how exactly, but it'll happen. That leaves 6 episodes to defeat the Walkers and the Lannisters, which seems like way more than enough considering each episode of season 8 is supposed to be about 80 minutes.
The Walkers WILL be past the Wall by the end of the next episode, that's a certainty. Not sure how exactly, but it'll happen. That leaves 6 episodes to defeat the Walkers and the Lannisters, which seems like way more than enough considering each episode of season 8 is supposed to be about 80 minutes.