Game of Thrones Thread
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I think Tormund and Beric might have survived. No verification. But they moved away from the sea side of the wall.
I think Tormund and Beric are still alive and kicking. To tease their deaths (especially with Tormund) so dramatically during the wight scavenger hunt in episode 6 only to kill them offscreen in the finale would be pretty lame.
I don't think it happens now. With Jamie possibly heading north I think he is the one that hooks up with her.
The finale was probably too good even for the criticisms of uber fantasy nerds like those spanish dudes posted earlier.
Their complaints were that the actions of the Stark sisters was inconsistent with their characters. The reality was their actions were entirely consistent and it set up well for the "turn about is fair play" climactic moment of LOrd Baelish's demise. Of which i guess the new comlaint is that the master manipulator was outwitted by a couple of kids... the reality is that love blinds and from the intonation of his voice it was clear he actually loved Sanza.
Their complaint was that the series lost its way and wasn't as dark and ruthless as before. Balish's death was every bit as cruel and effective as any other like Ned Stark's.
The complaint was the capture the wight quest was hairbrained (which I agreed) but it nevertheless set the stage for the very compelling grand meeting scene. The complaint was that Tyrion's decision making there was inconsistent with his wisdom while the series finale reality was shown that he was willing to go to whatever lengths for success even a suicidal meeting with Cersei alone.
The complaint was there's less T'n'A, the reality is we're right bak to where we started with some good ole incestuous sex. Sure the writing probably isn't as good as it was in earlier seasons, but in the end this season was still much better than the last few as i recall them and the series hasn't jumped the shark like those fantasy nerds suggest.
Their complaint was that the series lost its way and wasn't as dark and ruthless as before. Balish's death was every bit as cruel and effective as any other like Ned Stark's.
The complaint was the capture the wight quest was hairbrained (which I agreed) but it nevertheless set the stage for the very compelling grand meeting scene. The complaint was that Tyrion's decision making there was inconsistent with his wisdom while the series finale reality was shown that he was willing to go to whatever lengths for success even a suicidal meeting with Cersei alone.
The complaint was there's less T'n'A, the reality is we're right bak to where we started with some good ole incestuous sex. Sure the writing probably isn't as good as it was in earlier seasons, but in the end this season was still much better than the last few as i recall them and the series hasn't jumped the shark like those fantasy nerds suggest.
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What is that nonsense under the spoiler tag? Did you copy and paste that from somewhere or is that your attempt to summarize and address the complaints in this thread?
I mean if you can't just enjoy the show that's on you. It's a gd fantasy genre with dead people and dragons that's been incredible for 7 season. Enjoy being miserable.
This. I have read all the books and I read every scrap of fan theory blog. You likely don't know a bigger fantasy nerd than this poster. I spent my childhood taking breaks from D&D games to read comics and Piers Anthony books about magical lands with ogres and centaurs. I acknowledge the inconsistencies, I acknowledge the writing issues. Still it's the best show on television the last few years and is damned entertaining.
What nonsense? I was talking about the moronic complaints in that video, not those exlusive to this thread, and why I find them ridiculous.
I put it in spoiler tag in the off chance someone reads this thread without seeing the finale, however unlikely.
I love the people who whine after a freakin awesome season finale. These are the people who ***** about a free BJ because she made em finish too quickly. I mean come on, man!
You are watching a show about dragons, witchcraft, magic, and everything else but it's just not realist enough [roll]
So is John boning his sister or his cousin, can someone clear that up for me? And yes, nipple count is WAAAY down this season. That's my only gripe. Seeing Littlefinger meet his demise like he did had me high fiving everyone...fantastic scene
You are watching a show about dragons, witchcraft, magic, and everything else but it's just not realist enough [roll]
So is John boning his sister or his cousin, can someone clear that up for me? And yes, nipple count is WAAAY down this season. That's my only gripe. Seeing Littlefinger meet his demise like he did had me high fiving everyone...fantastic scene
Daeny is the sister of Rhaegar Targaryen, Jon's father.
The importance of the annulment and marriage in last night's episode is that Jon is the rightful heir to the throne, is boning his aunt, and has no idea.
Littlefinger's death just wasn't that satisfying for me. I guess because you could just see it coming from a mile away.
Winterfell was just really bad in general this season. I think they just simply had nothing for any of those characters to do because other than Bran, I don't see any of them having any relevance to the plot going forward.
I still think the best thing that could've happened was the final scene of season 7 being the NK and WW's wiping out Winterfell completely. Gets rid of a bunch of useless characters, and gives us a "Holy ****" moment that rivals Ned's execution and the Red Wedding.
Winterfell was just really bad in general this season. I think they just simply had nothing for any of those characters to do because other than Bran, I don't see any of them having any relevance to the plot going forward.
I still think the best thing that could've happened was the final scene of season 7 being the NK and WW's wiping out Winterfell completely. Gets rid of a bunch of useless characters, and gives us a "Holy ****" moment that rivals Ned's execution and the Red Wedding.
More people on here have complained about people complaining after the finale than have actually complained after the finale.
I'm thinking now that Jon, as a baby, was technically the king for a brief moment in time. Once his dad and older brother were dead, and before Robert took the throne.
Guess they couldnt nuke Winterfell bc we still need Bran next season, and it will be the meeting place when Bran reveals Jon's identity to him.
And I know it wasnt meant to be funny, but I almost lost my **** when the Night King flew in riding that Ice Dragon. It just looked hilarious.
And I know it wasnt meant to be funny, but I almost lost my **** when the Night King flew in riding that Ice Dragon. It just looked hilarious.
I'll look the other way on several things but one thing I'll never forgive the writers for is Stannis' off screen death.
They can motorboat my taint for the way they handled that mess.
They can motorboat my taint for the way they handled that mess.
Jon has been the rightful king since the Mad King died because Rheagar's other kids were made bastards when his first marriage was annulled.
Although this season had a few things that bugged me and didnt make alot of sense, I still enjoyed the finale and the season as a whole. No other show comes close imho
There is only one thing that has bothered me all season and that is why is everyone wearing black????????? It's like we watching a scene from Barbie and Ken where you dress them up how you want that day. It's makes no sense and it's even stranger than magic that everyone in the world got all new clothes and they match.
Outside of that the season was awesome, had some epic battles and answered some questions that had lingered for years. Little Finger and his attempts to keep everyone fighting are finally over too.
Next season we are going to be in for several battles. Cleganebowl, the White Walkers, and the battle for the throne. The best scene in the series history will be the one where Cersi finally dies, if she doesn't the entire show will be crap to me forever.
Outside of that the season was awesome, had some epic battles and answered some questions that had lingered for years. Little Finger and his attempts to keep everyone fighting are finally over too.
Next season we are going to be in for several battles. Cleganebowl, the White Walkers, and the battle for the throne. The best scene in the series history will be the one where Cersi finally dies, if she doesn't the entire show will be crap to me forever.
We're watching a different show now imo.. Dialogue isn't what it once was..lots of holes in the script and timelines.. Disappointing.
If you can't see that, you didn't pay attention in the earlier seasons. A lot of people clambered for more dragons and WW for years. Now they have all the special effects they want leaving less time to effectively carry out the STORY.
To each their own.
If you can't see that, you didn't pay attention in the earlier seasons. A lot of people clambered for more dragons and WW for years. Now they have all the special effects they want leaving less time to effectively carry out the STORY.
To each their own.
Got to hand it to him though, he played the game like a boss...but going up against a faceless man and a three eyed raven will end anyone's run at the game of thrones.
Cersei will learn this as well when Arya crosses her off the list.
What holes in the script and timeline?
Where the show is different is in pacing; you knew that going in to this season there was a lot of ground to cover in two half seasons.
There's also a lot more unrealistic undead and dragons which you knew that was coming too.
Where the show is different is in pacing; you knew that going in to this season there was a lot of ground to cover in two half seasons.
There's also a lot more unrealistic undead and dragons which you knew that was coming too.
I'll give one example of an inconsistency in the script. Euron, in the throne room early in the season. If he galavanted like that earlier in the series (no matter what he brought to the table) his antics would have gotten him decapitated. AND How is he allowed to cowardly leave one of the most important meetings on the show?! I understand the Cersei agreement, still think it was poorly done.
The show used to have so much substance. I didn't watch for the dragons and white walkers. I watched for character/story development and character interactions.
You are right. I did expect more of that and an accelerated pace, but didn't expect it to turn into the show people who don't watch think it is.
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There are plenty. Go back and watch Preston Jacobs' watch episodes on Youtube where he points out dozens of holes, ignored facts from previous episodes etc...etc...
See my other comments regarding my overall opinion of the show; I love it. LOVE. IT. But GRRM fans of the books have very high expectations of how tiny little facts in the earlier books reveal important plot turns in later ones. The show doesn't keep to that standard so I can see how some are disappointed.
I'd rather see it all resolved over the course of 3-4 more full seasons myself, but you have to accept it such at is and enjoy the ride... i guess is my overall point, not whip out your map of westeros and protactor and start calculating how long it would take a carrier pigeon to fly j/k
Are they any better than those Spanish GOT academy guys? Cause I pretty easily dismissed their complaints. Plot holes are entirely different than being unhappy with the direction of the plot.
In terms of writing and sense of time:
When the ranging party was stuck on the island Gendry ran all the way back, the wall sent a raven all the way south, and Dany rode all the way north......all before water turned to ice in subzero temperatures.
Just lazy. Minimal effort couldve produced much better timeline. Yes I know its fantasy. But they still operate under constraints of time.
When the ranging party was stuck on the island Gendry ran all the way back, the wall sent a raven all the way south, and Dany rode all the way north......all before water turned to ice in subzero temperatures.
Just lazy. Minimal effort couldve produced much better timeline. Yes I know its fantasy. But they still operate under constraints of time.
That's not lazy but expedient writing, and pretty much the definition of suspension of disbelief.
They could've written in the hound using the hammer to go around cracking the reforming ice. Could've written better undead strategy, they could've walked staggered and reduced the pressure on the ice and overcome them due to exhaustion... all pretty ridiculous.
They could've written in the hound using the hammer to go around cracking the reforming ice. Could've written better undead strategy, they could've walked staggered and reduced the pressure on the ice and overcome them due to exhaustion... all pretty ridiculous.
You guys are pissed because a 400lb ******* that spent his life's work writing arguably the greatest story ever told and is one chicken wing from a heart attack left HBO with a summary of two more books and no other choice?
The book readers are the most insufferable. How do you expect anyone to turn a book into a perfect show in a timely fashion when the creator has a 20 year head start?
The book readers are the most insufferable. How do you expect anyone to turn a book into a perfect show in a timely fashion when the creator has a 20 year head start?
My brother read the books and we've been discussing every episode. It's been like talking to a kid opening Christmas presents with him. He's read all the leaked info, calls me telling me to watch the leaked episodes, etc... And, just to mess with him, I point out the stupid **** that we all see and go, 'wtf was that?' as we either decide to turn our heads or let it get to us. But we've both just had to accept that HBO will struggle to replicate what GRM has perfected.
And after every GOT episode, I watch a 30 min HORRIBLE show called Ballers and realize that we will probably never get anything like we have with GOT again in our lifetimes.
Idk...I watch every new show on Prime, Netflix, cable, what-the-f-ever and I had more of a raging boner for GOT this season because **** finally happened. I'm going to take what I get.
And after every GOT episode, I watch a 30 min HORRIBLE show called Ballers and realize that we will probably never get anything like we have with GOT again in our lifetimes.
Idk...I watch every new show on Prime, Netflix, cable, what-the-f-ever and I had more of a raging boner for GOT this season because **** finally happened. I'm going to take what I get.